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where to get opel engine Z16XEP piston rings ?

  • 17-02-2013 4:59pm
    #1
    Mar4ix
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    My friend repairing Opel Zafira , 02, 1.6 petrol, Z16XEP engine code, smokey while idling, or revving , but while driving (not accelerating) , there is no smoke at all, compression in all cylinders very good, and even, we think, it is most likely oil rings gone, ... could be also stem seals.
    Anyone know, where is possible get in Dublin or nearby mentioned engine piston rings and possible stem seals?

    looked in ebay, rings would cost up to 100 quid delivered, think, maybe would get in similar price here.

    Thanks.


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  • #2
    The Pontiac
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,417 ✭✭✭The Pontiac


    Did you try ebay.co.uk?

    These work out at €70 delivered.

    Just use Parcel Motel. They'll provide you with a UK address, and deliver it to your nearest motel in Dublin. Amazing service!

    http://www.parcelmotel.com/


  • #3
    dgt
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,985 ✭✭✭✭dgt


    CHS in Newry, 04830265024

    Its where we get bits if rebuilding an engine/head


  • #4
    Lucifer
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,467 ✭✭✭Lucifer


    Mar4ix wrote: »
    My friend repairing Opel Zafira , 02, 1.6 petrol, Z16XEP engine code, smokey while idling, or revving , but while driving (not accelerating) , there is no smoke at all, compression in all cylinders very good, and even, we think, it is most likely oil rings gone, ... could be also stem seals.
    Anyone know, where is possible get in Dublin or nearby mentioned engine piston rings and possible stem seals?

    looked in ebay, rings would cost up to 100 quid delivered, think, maybe would get in similar price here.

    Thanks.

    If it's a 2002 it is a Z16XE engine, XEP is the later engine so make sure you are buying the correct parts. If in doubt pm me.


  • #5
    Mar4ix
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,356 ✭✭✭Mar4ix


    The Pontiac wrote: »
    Did you try ebay.co.uk?

    These work out at €70 delivered.

    Just use Parcel Motel. They'll provide you with a UK address, and deliver it to your nearest motel in Dublin. Amazing service!

    http://www.parcelmotel.com/

    that parcel motel look like interesting stuff, i know one in my area (coolmine at the spar shop) , which is closer than my nearest post office :pac:


  • #6
    Mar4ix
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,356 ✭✭✭Mar4ix


    Lucifer wrote: »
    If it's a 2002 it is a Z16XE engine, XEP is the later engine so make sure you are buying the correct parts. If in doubt pm me.

    yes, thanks . myself was working on 07 meriva engine, which was z16xep , my friend doing his car, so i said him also , that need be carefully pick up those rings.

    you recon xep has different rings ? not sure i know what the difference between those two engines.


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  • #7
    The Pontiac
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,417 ✭✭✭The Pontiac


    Mar4ix wrote: »
    that parcel motel look like interesting stuff, i know one in my area (coolmine at the spar shop) , which is closer than my nearest post office :pac:

    It's the greatest service ever. I use it all the time.

    Got a OEM thermostat delivered last week for a fraction of the cost you'd get it here. Was also pricing wheel hub/bearings and I could get a FAG (OEM) delivered here for less than €100. The local factors wanted nearly €200.

    So frustrating when they'll deliver to UK only (usually free) and couldn't give a sheet about us paddies. Enter Parcel Motel. You'll get the first two deliveries fee. Only €3.50 after that, and they're fast.


  • #8
    Lucifer
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,467 ✭✭✭Lucifer


    There are different part numbers listed for each engine.


  • #9
    Nissan doctor
    Closed Accounts Posts: 8,223 ✭✭✭Nissan doctor


    Mar4ix wrote: »
    My friend repairing Opel Zafira , 02, 1.6 petrol, Z16XEP engine code, smokey while idling, or revving , but while driving (not accelerating) , there is no smoke at all, compression in all cylinders very good, and even, we think, it is most likely oil rings gone, ... could be also stem seals.
    Anyone know, where is possible get in Dublin or nearby mentioned engine piston rings and possible stem seals?

    looked in ebay, rings would cost up to 100 quid delivered, think, maybe would get in similar price here.

    Thanks.

    Give http://howardengineering.ie/ a bell.


  • #10
    Mar4ix
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,356 ✭✭✭Mar4ix


    today took pistons out.. guess what ... oil rings cooked to piston solid... all 4. poor engine didnt get serviced for at least last two years. gosh ... forgot make a picture, and put in shame section, will ask my friend, before he will put them in petrol overnight .


  • #11
    Mar4ix
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,356 ✭✭✭Mar4ix


    Those pistons pictured after they were soken in petrol for an hour, so cant show in full beauty after we removed from engine :(




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  • #12
    [Deleted User]
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    Pistons look great apart from the sludge but the oil rings look unbelievably stuck in their lands. Do you know if the correct spec oil been used at recommended service intervals?


  • #13
    Mar4ix
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    samih wrote: »
    Pistons look great apart from the sludge but the oil rings look unbelievably stuck in their lands. Do you know if the correct spec oil been used at recommended service intervals?

    unknown history. typical people attitude to the cars.


  • #14
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    Yeah. the owner-devised extended service internals are not great. I'm currently rebuilding a SAAB 9-5 engine and it is not a pretty sight internally.


  • #15
    Mar4ix
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    samih wrote: »
    Yeah. the owner-devised extended service internals are not great. I'm currently rebuilding a SAAB 9-5 engine and it is not a pretty sight internally.



    well, actually only oil rings are bad, all the rest is fine, even cylinder pressure was perfect.

    car has over 250 k miles on clock , no any hedge on cylinder block on very top. .... look like new, maybe engine been changed at some point.

    get some pictures on saab rebuil process, if i am not mistaken, they are using Opel engines also.


  • #16
    Nissan doctor
    Closed Accounts Posts: 8,223 ✭✭✭Nissan doctor


    I rebuilt a Z14XEP where the pistons looked exactly the same as that. That condition is caused by excess heat build up, normally due to the engine being allowed to run low on oil.

    I'd be carefully checking and measuring the cylinder bores with the rings in that condition. I would also be changing the likes of valve stem seals in that engine too as these will have been worn by low oil conditions too.

    Mar4ix wrote: »
    well, actually only oil rings are bad, all the rest is fine, even cylinder pressure was perfect.

    I guarantee that all the rings are worn. Did you do a leak down test or just a compression test? If ring wear was bad enough to show on a compression gauge then the engine would have starting/running problems.


  • #17
    Mar4ix
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,356 ✭✭✭Mar4ix


    even before we split engine, it started without any problems, no any running problems, no revs fluctuating , i was driving it to garage, it felt a bit sluggish, but i never drove before zafira , and i dont know how to perform that engine. there was no smoke at all while driving , just while parked, was well smokey , when revving up.

    did compression test ... 16 each cylinder ... i think that was in atmospheres .

    Nobody sell oil rings separately, so full set will go on all pistons.

    thats not my car, and i am not fixing it, my friend own it and doing that job, i am more moral support and have a chat, and maybe some part supply assistance, as friend is working every day, i am more off work .


  • #18
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    Mar4ix wrote: »
    get some pictures on saab rebuil process, if i am not mistaken, they are using Opel engines also.

    This is a B205E which is a saab engine. I have loads of pictures, will probably do a writeup from it once finished. The root cause of high oil consumpion on both of our engines look to be stuck oil control rings. As with yours there was no noticeable wear on any of the components including the cylinder walls which still clearly show the original honing marks.


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