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€1200 Gaming PC
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16-02-2013 12:18am#1Hi all,
So it's time to upgrade my PC, but I'm unsure of what exactly is required and how much I should spend and such and such. I've come to the conclusion I'd like to spend around €1200 on my new PC. Let me give you some background first, I used to keep bang up to date with the latest builds, graphics cards etc but kinda lost interest a few years back; to give you an idea, the card that was "big" at the time when I last had an interest was the Nvidia 8800 GTX. So I will need a bit of guidance.:)
The new PC would be strictly for gaming, obviously doing the basics like internet browsing/watching movies etc. I'm looking to get a quad core CPU so I can use some streaming software (won't work on my current dualcore, way too cpu intensive). Would like around 16GB of ram. Would like a very small HD, maybe an SSD if you can recommend a solid one, here's some background first, right now, I'm using a 698 GB drive, 616 GB of it is free. I use my PC for gaming mostly and keep it very tidy so it's not necessary to have a large drive.
I have absolutely NO problem with fans/fan noise, I like to keep my PC cool, I have my headphones on all the time so that doesn't bother me in the slightest. If you were to recommend a case, I would prefer one that is equipped with a few fans, I would also like to get an extra fan for the CPU, you might not think it's necessary, I assumed it would be. I'm open to all ideas.
I would like a strong PSU, to make sure the PC is running on full tilt.
I have all the latest gear, Razer Blackwidow keyboard, Razer Deathadder mouse, have a good monitor, good headset. All I need is the computer. I don't need a copy of Windows either.
I went on a streamers FAQ on twitch (streaming website) and basically copied his specs to see how expensive they'd be (he has a very high quality stream without any lag). I found most of the parts I think, one or two of the pieces are different though, for example I just chose a generic case. It came in at around €1400. So I would need to cut it down slightly. I've posted the specs below.
As you've probably noticed, the website I've elected to use is HV. Three of my friends have used them and have nothing but good things to say about them so I hope that won't be an issue.
To give you some background about the games etc I play, at the moment I'm playing League of Legends (runs fine), Football Manager (runs fine) Far Cry 3 (lags horribly on low settings), Chivalry Medieval Warfare (lags horribly on low settings). I would like to get a PC that will run ALL the latest games on high settings and have no issues. I assume if I spend €1200 and follow experienced pc builders advice that would be attainable? I would like a gaming PC that will last at least 2-3 years and run games well.
As I say, the pc build I have linked above is VERY put together and open to change/modification. I am open to any type of advice about the build.
Thanks in advance0
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Followed your advice, cut down to i5 and 8 gigs of ram. Price is under €1000. I went for most of the "top sellers" as a test. Looks like a decent PC that could maybe be improved in a few areas. As I'm not penny pinching, my budget is around €1200 so I'd like to spend roughly that much...
Comes in at €960.
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Board is overkill. I'd take a 7950 over a 660ti as well.
Revised build. Hard drive might be overkill if you really think you won't need it. A lot of games are pushing 20gb's at the moment. All games will push 10-20gb in a year.
If you think you don't need it atm drop it and go with a 250gb ssd. Enough room for your os, programs and a few games. Either way you have €200 left over.
I'm not sure how much memory hd game streaming uses. Look into it and if you need 16gb just change the kit to the 2x8gb version.
If you plan on going crossfire down the line upgrade the psu to the 700w version.
Case is overkill too as you probably will never use all those HDD bays. It has great cooling though.
If you don't plan on overclocking there's at least €100 more that could be knocked off that price.0 -
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Have done a bit of research on best mobos/graphics cards/cpus and I've added some of the results into the build. What do you guys think?
References:
I googled many forums about whether to get an i5 over an i7. This seems to be the general consensus, so I went for an i5 - http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20121224135533AAkYmTn
Best graphics card - Obviously the first few are out of my price range, so I'm looking at either a Nvidia GeForce GTX 670 or a AMD Radeon HD 7870 or a Nvidia GeForce GTX 660 Ti. Reference - http://graphics-cards-review.toptenreviews.com/
I googled and read a lot about what's the best mobo, most of them said the AsRock Extreme 4/6. So I included the 6.
It's coming in at around €1100. What do you think? Perhaps I should get a bigger drive go for the 250GB?
Will that PSU be strong enough to run the system effectively?
Am I missing anything else that needs to be included?
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Right, after doing a good bit of research and listening to what you've all got to say here I've revised my build and I'm finally happy with the end product, only need advice on one or two things.
After consulting a few friends on overclocking that are experienced in the field, I decided it would be better to go with the Radeon HD 7970 and the i5-3570k. They're both excellent by all accounts/reports and will compliment my system well. I'm leaving a lot of room for overclocking and improving performance in the future.
Here's my revised build:
I'm happy with all the components, however some I'm still open to improving/revising to better suit my system. For example, that's a relatively random CPU fan. After a while I plan to overclock my CPU, can anybody recommend a fan that would be properly suited to keeping my CPU cool despite overclocking?
Also, I'm slightly unsure on my case. I would like a case that will keep everything cool. As I said before, noise DOES NOT bother me whatsoever, if there are 5 fans going it wouldn't bother me in the least. The Radeon HD 7970 got great reviews, but the downside to this card is that it apparently gets hot very easily and it's quite a large card. Are there any decent towers that are good for cooling and are quite spacious so the card will fit nicely and be kept cool?
Last but not least, my PSU. I showed my build to a few friends and they said perhaps I should go with a better brand for my PSU. It's 800W, which I thought would be sufficient. But maybe they have a point, if I was to get a different PSU I would like at least 750-800W to run this system effectively without any hiccups. Maybe this PSU is perfectly fine for the job and the brand doesn't matter, any advice?0 -
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So after months of thinking I had a defective card, buying a new monitor (tbh, I wanted a gaming monitor anyway). I think I finally found the issue with the card. And it's fairly ridiculous... I'm a bit hesitant to nail this down as the main reason, but I think it's fairly nailed on that it is.
I'm not the best with computers, but I decided to swap out my graphics card yesterday for my old card (gtx 275) to see if it worked without issues, so-as to once and for all nail down if the problem was with the graphics card. When my dad was helping me take it out, I noticed there were two power cables plugged into it. I think they were both 6 pins. I didn't think much of it at the time, just that it was a bit odd. Anyways, I took out the HD 7970 and put in the GTX 275, predictably there were absolutely no issues whatsoever.
So... I after a few days of using the GTX 275, I kind of thought about the power cable situation, finally I decided to open up the PC and have a look in. I took out the GTX 275, put the HD 7970 back in. I asked my dad, when you removed the card, did the HD 7970 have two of the 6 pin power cables plugged in, or more? He said he was 90% sure there were only two 6 pin power cables plugged in. Here's the problem.... my HD 7970 needs a 6 pin and an 8 pin. The person that assembled my PC at hardwareversand didn't put the correct power cable into the graphics card.....
So I sat the card in, put the nails in, then put the power cables in, there were two 6 pins, and on the side of each of them, they had 2 if necessary. So I sat them all in perfectly, and booted up my system.
I ran Battlefield 3, FIFA 13 and League of Legends on the highest settings, absolutely no problems, no flickering, no artifacts on the screen, it ran smoothly without issue.
To be clear, this is the cable I'm talking about (pictured below), the piece that is branched off to the side, the extra 2, weren't plugged into the graphics card. Could this be the reason my card wasn't working right? To be honest, I'm surprised my card even started without the correct power cables connected.
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