any idea of a car for about 6k-7k?

faral

hi folks
looking for replacement of my beloved starlet as family expands. Do you have any idea what would be a good choice for about 6-7k.minimum year say 2005 engine no more than 1.8 preferably lower. I have one child.I can mention that reliability would be the most important thing and looking only for petrol cars

colm_mcm

Civic 1.8?

I have one so they're obviously great!
You'd get an 07 with your budget.

faral

colm_mcm wrote: »

Civic 1.8?

I have one so they're obviously great!
You'd get an 07 with your budget.

which version do u have?

colm_mcm

Hatchback 07, 1.8 ES

Great space in the boot and back seats, good enough on petrol, nippy, and apparently they're bulletproof mechanically, I've only had mine since October but nothing's fallen off yet!

Tbh there are so many cars out there to choose from. Do you do much driving, do you want a bit of power, woud a 1.4 fit the bill?

faral

colm_mcm wrote: »

Hatchback 07, 1.8 ES

Great space in the boot and back seats, good enough on petrol, nippy, and apparently they're bulletproof mechanically, I've only had mine since October but nothing's fallen off yet!

Tbh there are so many cars out there to choose from. Do you do much driving, do you want a bit of power, woud a 1.4 fit the bill?

no much driving tbh so I do need a really power engine, civics are verry good but I thought they will be expensive

Barry Barry

Seat Leon,
1.6,
40,000 miles,
€5999


http://cars.donedeal.ie/for-sale/cars/4215857

Hyundai i30,
1.4,
38,000 miles,
€7,750


http://cars.donedeal.ie/for-sale/cars/4514556

meath4sam

Toyota avensis 1.6 as reliable as you can get just like your starlet.

faral

meath4sam wrote: »

Toyota avensis 1.6 as reliable as you can get just like your starlet.

thats what im looking for:)only im not sure if todays toyotas have the same reliability as they use to have it.

faral

Barry Barry wrote: »

Seat Leon,
1.6,
40,000 miles,
€5999


http://cars.donedeal.ie/for-sale/cars/4215857

Hyundai i30,
1.4,
38,000 miles,
€7,750


http://cars.donedeal.ie/for-sale/cars/4514556

hyundai looks nice but its slightly over my budget

colm_mcm

Civic 1.4
http://cars.donedeal.ie/for-sale/cars/3925360

Ceed 1.4
http://cars.donedeal.ie/for-sale/cars/4473021

meath4sam

faral wrote: »

thats what im looking for:)only im not sure if todays toyotas have the same reliability as they use to have it.

I'm no expert but own a starlet and avensis and they are probably not as reliable as they used to be but imo still the most reliable around. I got a standard 05 1.6 for 4200 with high mileage and no probs yet. Fingers crossed.

Farmer Pudsey

You should get an 07 Avensis for 7K and low milage. Low milage is relative on toyota's as most people that buy them tend to do a bit more than other drivers I find. You seldom find real low milage examples.

Here is one from a dealer
http://cars.donedeal.ie/for-sale/cars/4580490

I had an 05 1.6 not sure if same engine but same body type now have a D4D diesel no issue with either the petrol one did 36or38MPG not sue which and alot was small journeys. Big car plenty of room and if you have a second child you will still have plenty of room.

http://cars.donedeal.ie/for-sale/cars/4491520
http://cars.donedeal.ie/for-sale/cars/4548680

here is an 06 and 07 private sale 4500 might buy the 06 and it if it is straight it will do you 10 years if you are doing small milage. You would have 2500 left out of the 7K. The 07 might be got for 5500 again change left over for a holiday.

The advantage is that these are big cars and economical for there size. Some people complain that they are under powered but you will not be flying around with a child in the back They have a massive boot and are a big solid car go and drive a few of them. Very comfortable and plenty of room if you want to go on holidays or away for a weekend in Ireland. If you think that you want a bit moe jizz there is a 1.8 version supposed to be slightly better on fuel.

JohnBoy26

meath4sam wrote: »

Toyota avensis 1.6 as reliable as you can get just like your starlet.

Them Avensis are soft enough and no where near as well built as the Toyotas of old. Common problems in them are window regulators and Gearbox issues. They give so much gearbox trouble that many Toyota dealers keep a plentifull supply of bearings in stock for them.

colm_mcm

But against its piers, an avensis 1.6 is probably as good as things get reliability wise. Oddly I never saw window reg problems and I worked in a main toyota dealer

JohnBoy26

colm_mcm wrote: »

But against its piers, an avensis 1.6 is probably as good as things get reliability wise. Oddly I never saw window reg problems and I worked in a main toyota dealer

Yes a common problem in them. The regulator in them is very flimsy and made very weak. I've seen at least four with the issue and one was under a year old. It went again in the same car after four years

Farmer Pudsey

colm_mcm wrote: »

But against its piers, an avensis 1.6 is probably as good as things get reliability wise. Oddly I never saw window reg problems and I worked in a main toyota dealer

JohnBoy26 wrote: »

Yes a common problem in them. The regulator in them is very flimsy and made very weak. I've seen at least four with the issue and one was under a year old. It went again in the same car after four years

I am as confused as hell a poster that says that he works in a main dealer never saw window regulator issue other expert says it is very comman.

By the way saw a major flaw in this car compared to the other two


http://cars.donedeal.ie/for-sale/cars/4548680



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Leonard Hofstadter

The Mk2 Avensis is a reliable car, it's just that it's nowhere near as reliable as say a Carina E or a pre-facelift Mk1 Avensis.

The gearboxes are quite weak in them, they have problems with the headlights, and earlier models have the oil burning problem. The earlier D4Ds are quite troublesome too.

As for power the 1.8 struggles when there's a few people on board, so I wouldn't even consider a 1.6. The 1.6 is heavy on juice because the gearing is so short in order to compensate for the lack of power - a 1.8 is more frugal on the open road as it has more sensible gearing. This also results in the 1.6 being very noisy on the motorway, in fact it runs at such high revs at 120 kph you end up thinking you're in fourth gear when you're actually in fifth!

faral

does anyone o you have a citroen c5? especially version with 1,8 petrol engine.they look great and have a plenty of extras for very reasonable money

Kopparberg Strawberry and Lime

1.4 civic like what colm has there ?

my advert might help. price can be lowered without a bother !

Sobanek

Perhaps this?

http://cars.donedeal.ie/for-sale/cars/4218050

MadYaker

Low mileage you say? http://www.carzone.ie/search/BMW/7-Series/745-I-**/32913599940603500/advert?channel=CARS

bazz26

The guy is coming from a Starlet, doesn't want to go above 1.8 litre and then gets recommended a BMW 745i.

You would probably buy something like this close to budget:

http://www.driving.ie/used-cars/Mazda/Mazda6/1.8-4DR/15113404439565080/

faral

bazz26 wrote: »

The guy is coming from a Starlet, doesn't want to go above 1.8 litre and then gets recommended a BMW 745i.

You would probably buy something like this close to budget:

http://www.driving.ie/used-cars/Mazda/Mazda6/1.8-4DR/15113404439565080/[/QUOTE]
you are absolutrly right, no more than 1.8 Im not a racer,jut a quiet family guy now:D this mazda is defo worth a look.

Sobanek

The 7er would be a great luxobarge once converted to LPG. About €11 per 100km on average, even the Mazda 6 won't be able to pull that off The only downside is the motor tax (€1809).

There's always this:
http://cars.donedeal.ie/for-sale/cars/4570281

Converted to LPG, not only it's ok in tax (€710 pa), but also a 100km of CITY DRIVING would cost you around €10. Motorway cruising would come down to about €5 !

testicle

colm_mcm wrote: »

Oddly I never saw window reg problems and I worked in a main toyota dealer

There's a recall for them since last year isn't there?

colm_mcm

testicle wrote: »

There's a recall for them since last year isn't there?

Quite possibly. Bear in mind that model is out 10 years.
I haven't sold toyota since 2009

NIMAN

MadYaker wrote: »

Low mileage you say? http://www.carzone.ie/search/BMW/7-Series/745-I-**/32913599940603500/advert?channel=CARS

Nice car but annual road tax of €1800 :eek:

faral

Sobanek wrote: »

The 7er would be a great luxobarge once converted to LPG. About €11 per 100km on average, even the Mazda 6 won't be able to pull that off The only downside is the motor tax (€1809).

There's always this:
http://cars.donedeal.ie/for-sale/cars/4570281

Converted to LPG, not only it's ok in tax (€710 pa), but also a 100km of CITY DRIVING would cost you around €10. Motorway cruising would come down to about €5 !

we are in Ireland and petrol is cheap as chips here so I wouldnt bother to convert my car into LPG especially when its not hugely popular in Ireland therefore not widely availaible on petrol stations

Sobanek

faral wrote: »

we are in Ireland and petrol is cheap as chips here so I wouldnt bother to convert my car into LPG especially when its not hugely popular in Ireland therefore not widely availaible on petrol stations

True, it isn't hugely popular, but if you do high mileage, this can really come in handy.

Let's say you do about 20,000 miles per year (32,000 km).

Consumption on petrol: 11l/100km (Average - Mazda 6) (that 1.8 will be thirsty, it's a heavy car)
Consumption on LPG: 13.5l/100km (Average - BMW 745i)

100km on petrol = €17.59 (1.599 pl)
100km on LPG = €10.93 (0.81 pl)

Difference on 100km - €6.66 (oh my )
Difference on 32000 km - €2131.2 - so even if you deduct motor tax from this, it will still be a €300 per annum saving. And please, you're driving a 7 Series!

Your choice anyway.

And petrol is not cheap as chips here, it's cheaper than the UK, Turkey and Netherlands - it's cheap in the US, it's cheap in UAE. Not cheap here.

faral

Sobanek wrote: »

True, it isn't hugely popular, but if you do high mileage, this can really come in handy.

Let's say you do about 20,000 miles per year (32,000 km).

Consumption on petrol: 11l/100km (Average - Mazda 6) (that 1.8 will be thirsty, it's a heavy car)
Consumption on LPG: 13.5l/100km (Average - BMW 745i)

100km on petrol = €17.59 (1.599 pl)
100km on LPG = €10.93 (0.81 pl)

Difference on 100km - €6.66 (oh my )
Difference on 32000 km - €2131.2 - so even if you deduct motor tax from this, it will still be a €300 per annum saving. And please, you're driving a 7 Series!

Your choice anyway.

And petrol is not cheap as chips here, it's cheaper than the UK, Turkey and Netherlands - it's cheap in the US, it's cheap in UAE. Not cheap here.

Sobanek thank you for you reply. I do agree with your calculations but have few things to point out.
I am absolutely not interested in any of German cars and driving 7 series means nothing for me.Yes nothing.
You need to make a higher millage per year in order to "retrieve" money invested in conversion.
Traveling on short distance,as I do for instance result in cold engine and use of LPG wont even start.
You have to either remove a spare wheel or compromise on boot capacity
Cheap petrol for me means you earn enough money to not look at price. 1,6 euro is absolutely acceptable and I still save few quid at the end of a month.

pred racer

faral wrote: »

does anyone o you have a citroen c5? especially version with 1,8 petrol engine.they look great and have a plenty of extras for very reasonable money

I am a big C5 fan, they are a great car.......with a 2.0hdi engine.
The 1.8 petrol engine is a bit of a dog Imho.

Leonard Hofstadter

Sobanek wrote: »

True, it isn't hugely popular, but if you do high mileage, this can really come in handy.

Let's say you do about 20,000 miles per year (32,000 km).

Consumption on petrol: 11l/100km (Average - Mazda 6) (that 1.8 will be thirsty, it's a heavy car)
Consumption on LPG: 13.5l/100km (Average - BMW 745i)

100km on petrol = €17.59 (1.599 pl)
100km on LPG = €10.93 (0.81 pl)

Difference on 100km - €6.66 (oh my )
Difference on 32000 km - €2131.2 - so even if you deduct motor tax from this, it will still be a €300 per annum saving. And please, you're driving a 7 Series!

Your choice anyway.

And petrol is not cheap as chips here, it's cheaper than the UK, Turkey and Netherlands - it's cheap in the US, it's cheap in UAE. Not cheap here.

Don't forget that when a car is running on LPG, consumption is about 20% worse. So there won't be the savings quoted!

Also, early model E65s are phenomenally unreliable and expensive to run, the cost of fuel and road tax is only small change. The V8 in the 745i has so many problems due to really poor engineering by BMW we could be here until tomorrow explaining every last one. The E38 was an infinitely better car, not just for reliability, but to look at and to be in too.

Sobanek

captainspeed wrote: »

Don't forget that when a car is running on LPG, consumption is about 20% worse. So there won't be the savings quoted!

Also, early model E65s are phenomenally unreliable and expensive to run, the cost of fuel and road tax is only small change. The V8 in the 745i has so many problems due to really poor engineering by BMW we could be here until tomorrow explaining every last one. The E38 was an infinitely better car, not just for reliability, but to look at and to be in too.

I've counted that in, people report between 13l-14l / 100km. Surprisingly "economical" to be honest. Does between 10-11l/100km on petrol.
Anyway, doesn't matter since faral is not interested in the Ultimate Driving Machine :P

Bobo78

bazz26 wrote: »

The guy is coming from a Starlet, doesn't want to go above 1.8 litre and then gets recommended a BMW 745i.

You would probably buy something like this close to budget:

http://www.driving.ie/used-cars/Mazda/Mazda6/1.8-4DR/15113404439565080/

I would as well go for this kind of car with your budget.
Even thou I am sometimes disappointed with my experience with Mazda 6 I would still buy one of those. They just simply are extremely good looking car and tend to be more reliable than some other cars.

faral

Sobanek wrote: »

e faral is not interested in the Ultimate Driving Machine :P

I am indeed but Ultimate Driving Experience for me means driving Toyota Supra, Mitsubishi GTO or one of these crazy Hondas so Japanese cars from 90's.Only German things I like is beer,Lidl and Aldi.:D

faral

pred racer wrote: »

I am a big C5 fan, they are a great car.......with a 2.0hdi engine.
The 1.8 petrol engine is a bit of a dog Imho.

would be great but diesel is not for me