convert crewcab to a standard van

irishplaster · 13-02-2013 3:04pm #1

hi guys i need to rack your brains a bit i have a crewcab van from my plastering days that i still need to use due to lack of funds to change my problem is the tax on a private van is 1100 euros could i convert it back to a standard van for the standart tax on a commercial which is 380 euros if so dose anyone know where to start going about this thanks for your input in advance:)

Sleepy · 13-02-2013 3:11pm

Unless it's sole use is for commercial work, you can't tax it as such.

irishplaster · 13-02-2013 3:24pm

even do i have change jobs the sole use of the van is work purposes and the odd plastering work on the side but my main work is not p lastering anymore but a supermarket manager where i need to transport stock every now and again i've enquired about changing it back to commercial but they say i need three poeple employed on my books to qualify to change it back

MugMugs · 13-02-2013 3:41pm

Just out interest, how will converting her away from Crew Cab help you out in any way?

A crew cab can be taxed commercially, can't they?

R.O.R · 13-02-2013 3:46pm

MugMugs wrote: »

Just out interest, how will converting her away from Crew Cab help you out in any way?

A crew cab can be taxed commercially, can't they?

Depends if it meets the requirements for a commercial crew cab, which is GVW of 3,450KG and a certain % of load area to cab area.

A SWB Transit / Vivaro sized crew can wouldn't have met these requirements, and would have been classified as a passenger vehicle. A 350 LWB Transit Crew Cab would have been OK.

OP - would you ever use it for dropping the kids to school or popping to the shops for some milk, or do you have another vehicle to do this with?

irishplaster · 13-02-2013 3:51pm

your right they can but the problem with it is you need three poeple working for you to be able to pay commercial tax on it which i dont have any more when i finished with plastering i changed it to private which cost 1100 euros for the year.i was looking to take out the back seats and converting it back to a standard commercial where i could pay commercial tax again do you think this could be possible.thanks again

irishplaster · 13-02-2013 3:56pm

r.o.r we have a second car for my wife but she also needs her own my problem is that 1100 euros is a big hole in the finances and looking at cutting them down without a lot cost to the existing out goings

puzzle factory · 13-02-2013 4:04pm

who told you that you need 3people employed to get commerical tax, its not true anyway.

irishplaster · 13-02-2013 4:09pm

puzzle factory wrote: »

who told you that you need 3people employed to get commerical tax, its not true anyway.

the poeple that told me was the motar tax office when i enquired about changing it back to commercial tax so ii can only take them at there word

puzzle factory · 13-02-2013 4:16pm

well its lies, have you checked the log book, if it was commerical before it might be still down as a commerical.

irishplaster · 13-02-2013 4:26pm

puzzle factory wrote: »

well its lies, have you checked the log book, if it was commerical before it might be still down as a commerical.

it was a commercial before i've had the van since 2006 where up until 2011 i changed it to private.but the following year i wanted to change it back but they requested three names and pps numbers of employees to change it back

puzzle factory · 13-02-2013 4:48pm

there messing you around there or dont know what there talking about, there isnt many farmers in the country with 3 employes or many tradesmen left with 3employes, ring them and ask for a supervisor and check your log book, if you didnt send it back in 2011, then its still a commerical thats just taxed private.

navara man · 13-02-2013 4:57pm

puzzle factory wrote: »

who told you that you need 3people employed to get commerical tax, its not true anyway.

it is true in some tax office

navara man · 13-02-2013 5:00pm

puzzle factory wrote: »

well its lies, have you checked the log book, if it was commerical before it might be still down as a commerical.

the log book will say crewcab

Bpmull · 13-02-2013 5:02pm

I'd imagine its 3 people as the van is a crewcab. To tax a normal van commercially you wouldn't need 3 people employed. The way revenue would look at it is why do you need a crewcab for work if you have no one working for you. I could be wrong but that seems logical to me.

Farmer Pudsey · 13-02-2013 7:04pm

The reason us poor farmers can tax acrew cab commercially( by the way I have not got one or a jeep either) is that most farms are family farms anf if you have to take the kids back the land to hunt the cattle or sheep you may need the extra seating capacity.:rolleyes:

By the way op why did you change it back to private tax.

Some tax offices do this and it seems some do not can you tax it in another county or if you have childer tell them it is a family buisness and the childerm work there parttime fook em give them nothing by the way you only need two other PPS no's not three as most ordinary van's can only two and they cannot tell you what van to buy. If you have a wife/partner tell them she gives a hand part time and as long as the child can waly he can pick stuff up from the floor for you. If the refuse you could take in a letter stating that you have tried to tax the van get them to sign and when caught go to court and explain to the judge it is always worth a gamble. Also contact the small firms association.

puzzle factory · 13-02-2013 8:37pm

navara man wrote: »

the log book will say crewcab

I gathered that from the op post, but j2 and j5 will tell you the basis on which it is taxed.

puzzle factory · 13-02-2013 8:38pm

Bpmull wrote: »

I'd imagine its 3 people as the van is a crewcab. To tax a normal van commercially you wouldn't need 3 people employed. The way revenue would look at it is why do you need a crewcab for work if you have no one working for you. I could be wrong but that seems logical to me.

sorry for douting you op,bpmull is right there.

navara man · 13-02-2013 8:46pm

puzzle factory wrote: »

I gathered that from the op post, but j2 and j5 will tell you the basis on which it is taxed.

d3 will say crewcab

trad · 13-02-2013 8:51pm

This might be helpful

http://www.revenue.ie/en/tax/vrt/forms/index.html

scroll down to "Declaration of Conversion by Vehicle Owner"

and view document

puzzle factory · 13-02-2013 9:13pm

navara man wrote: »

d3 will say crewcab

Im not saying your wrong but we already know its a crewcab, but by looking at the log book j5 will inform us of its tax class. a commerical can be taxed privately but a private vechical needs to be assesed, weighed and doe'd to be taxed commerically, this is already done and its highly unlikely the op sent the log book back to shannon to get j5 changed to private.

jurijs · 20-02-2013 11:22pm

hello I will go from Germany on a trace to week remade cargo in pasang that will be if customs officers see alteration, sitting of glass but on taxbook cargo, will give time for alteration of papers or will select at once

Galwayps · 27-12-2013 5:08pm

I have a similar problem to the original poster but in reverse.
I have a swb van which is taxed commercial. However I want to use rear quick release seats without making it a crew cab (permanently separated).
I am aware this would not pass commercial tax.
Van already has side windows and doors but on log book is down as 3 seater even though I bought it with the rear seats installed.
Do I have to declare to revenue to change van to and pay vrt??

convert crewcab to a standard van

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