Plants that will grow up a shed wall

Tawny Owl

I built a concrete shed last year I would like to put some plants that will grow up the front of the shed like a tight bush with berries taking that rough look away can anyone reccomend a bush like plant / tree not Ivy but something with a bit of colour the Sun shines on the front of the shed all day that is when the Sun decides to appear again:D

pwurple

So, looking for a leaner... with berries.

How about pyracantha. Very bright coloured berries. Often grown up against walls.

Here's a pic
http://apps.rhs.org.uk/advicesearch/profile.aspx?pid=431

Oldtree

both red and orange berries available.

rje66

Tawny Owl wrote: »

I built a concrete shed last year I would like to put some plants that will grow up the front of the shed like a tight bush with berries taking that rough look away can anyone reccomend a bush like plant / tree not Ivy but something with a bit of colour the Sun shines on the front of the shed all day that is when the Sun decides to appear again:D

Cotoneaster microphyllus or cotoneaster horizontalis, youll know them when you see them. Good points are bees love them, lots of berries on bare stems, easy to manage and it has no nasty thorns. Bad points, cant think of any.

kylith

Be aware that Pyrocantha has thorns. Huge great nasty thorns that really hurt.

Cinquecento

Try a honeysuckle - Hall's Prolific is bright yellow and sometimes keeps its leaves through the winter. Harlequin has red and yellow flowers with a darker leaf. For both, you'll need to put in vine eyes and wire to support the growth.

Clematis Armandii is useful - evergreen, early flowering, though, again, it needs support to start.

We planted Rosa Felipe Kiftsgate to cover a brick shed - it went up one side, over the roof, down the other side and across into the neighbour's garden - so, relatively successful but needed to be pruned a lot.

Depending on the size of your shed, you could plant a few things so you have a long season of flowering. Maybe mix in a climber that's better known for the colour of the leaves in autumn - something like Russian Vine, but you really need to manage that to make sure it doesn't go wild (it's common name is 'Mile a Minute').

Coll1e

As an alternative you could build a simple Green Wall and grow flowers or even vegetables, herbs etc .
It can be as formal or rustic as you like and can be done very cheaply with pallets. If you google green walls or vertical gardening you should get a lot of ideas. Heres some link to some easy to build Green Walls.

http://www.canadianliving.com/crafts/home_and_garden/diy_project_make_your_own_pallet_wall_planter.php

http://www.growingagreenerworld.com/creating-a-pallet-garden-step-by-step-instructions/

looksee

NO NO NO don't plant Russian Vine, you will just waste a couple of years before you have to dig it out and dispose of the vast quantity of growth.

Tawny Owl

Thank you everyone for the tips I am a bit worried about a plant with big thorns as I have two lovely Grandchildren Twin Girls age 5 and I don't want them in any way hurt the shed is 20ft x 10 ft its long enough I have 3 sides to cover so I will hit the garden centre and with the good advice I have received I will pick something but I do love red and purple colours I will add a photo of before and another later in the year and see how the growth looks and again Thank you all.;)

deandean

Check out a climbing hydranga

paddy147

Clematis Armandii is a beautifull evergreen climber and has lovely flowers and a lovely scent too.

Once it gets established/started,it takes off quick and will make for beautifull wall coverage.
We have it growing in various locations around the front and back gardens.:)

dah89

I'd cover the wall with an espalier or fan fruit tree, and in a couple of years enjoy the pleasure of walking out and picking one off the tastiest apples/pears/plums or even a peach (lot of work though), you're ever going to taste. You also will have the blossom in spring. Here's a few examples http://blog.glamourdrops.com/2011/06...ats-natty.html

pwurple

Tawny Owl wrote: »

Thank you everyone for the tips I am a bit worried about a plant with big thorns as I have two lovely Grandchildren Twin Girls age 5 and I don't want them in any way hurt the shed is 20ft x 10 ft its long enough I have 3 sides to cover so I will hit the garden centre and with the good advice I have received I will pick something but I do love red and purple colours I will add a photo of before and another later in the year and see how the growth looks and again Thank you all.;)

Yup, the pyracantha is thorny... but my mum grew it up our shed to deter us from climbing up it.

I'm actually not a big fan of berries around children either. My own child is a monkey for picking random berries and stuffing them into her mouth. Check that whatever you chose to grow isn't poisonous.

pwurple

paddy147 wrote: »

Clematis Armandii is a beautifull evergreen climber and has lovely flowers and a lovely scent too.

Once it gets established/started,it takes off quick and will make for beautifull wall coverage.
We have it growing in various locations around the front and back gardens.:)

Did you put up the wrong photos there by mistake? It's one stem.

dah89

Sorry the link got corrupted

http://www.woodbridgefruittrees.com.au/woodbridgefruittrees/content/10-espaliers
http://www.magicherbgarden.com/2011/01/espalier-beautiful-trees-small-space/

Northumbria

Virginia creeper. Green in summer, red in autumn and but loses its leaves in winter.

rje66

All posters ,read opening request.......
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Dont think poster asked for recommendations for climbers that will run riot on his shed. Some suggestions here are not suitable.

pwurple

rje66 wrote: »

All posters ,read opening request.......
.
Dont think poster asked for recommendations for climbers that will run riot on his shed. Some suggestions here are not suitable.

No surprise there.... it's the gardening forum. aka, no moderation to speak of.

paddy147

pwurple wrote: »

Did you put up the wrong photos there by mistake? It's one stem.

I dont know why you have adopted this humor on quite a few threads as of lately??

You need to calm down,relax and not be so on edge and going completely off topic for no reason what so ever.

Why not try to be friendly with everyone and not be adopting this attitude.




Gardening is for everyone afterall.

paddy147

pwurple wrote: »

No surprise there.... it's the gardening forum. aka, no moderation to speak of.

No need for that.

pwurple

paddy147 wrote: »

I dont know why you have adopted this humor on quite a few threads as of lately??.

Sorry paddy147, but I find one teeny tiny stem on a trellis to be a fairly chuckle-worthy example of 'beautiful wall coverage'. Thought i would give you the benefit of the doubt though.

paddy147

pwurple wrote: »

Sorry paddy147, but I find one teeny tiny stem on a trellis to be a fairly chuckle-worthy example of 'beautiful wall coverage'. Thought i would give you the benefit of the doubt though.

Eh I actually posted that it will make for lovely wall coverage.
Try reading what was actually posted for a change before you try to be and act so smart..


And of course you know when I planted it and accidently snapped it in half.

And you also know when that picture was taken too.

Do you???

Of course you dont....:pac::pac:

paddy147

To the OP......

Chaenomeles Rubra is also something to look at planting and training up the wall/walls.:)

Took this pic today while out on a romantic stroll with the girlfriend in Malahide Castle.:D

Northumbria

rje66 wrote: »

All posters ,read opening request.......
.
Dont think poster asked for recommendations for climbers that will run riot on his shed. Some suggestions here are not suitable.

Virginia creeper is fine, just give it a trim once a year like everyone else instead of expecting things to stay static. It will make a lovely cover for ugly concrete.

Tisserand

OP, there is a pump house nearby where I live that has red robin planted around it and it looks great. It is like a laurel with red leaves that shine in the sun. Have a look at one in a garden centre if you can, you will need a few plants though. Aldi get in spring shrubs every year which include red robin and if budget is a consideration, these are great value and good quality as I have planted a few myself. You can however get more established plants in a garden centre.

Tawny Owl

Tisserand wrote: »

OP, there is a pump house nearby where I live that has red robin planted around it and it looks great. It is like a laurel with red leaves that shine in the sun. Have a look at one in a garden centre if you can, you will need a few plants though. Aldi get in spring shrubs every year which include red robin and if budget is a consideration, these are great value and good quality as I have planted a few myself. You can however get more established plants in a garden centre.

Thank you all very much I am looking out the garden daily and the ground is drying up lovely can wait to start and thank Tisserand I have it planed this weekend start turning soil it will be nice to see some colour againest the shed as I said I will post some photos before and after,;):)

Tawny Owl

I asked a while back for ideas to cover a shed I built, I said I would put some photos up so here is the start of the shed. I have done some planting on the advice I received on here and will put these up as well thanks to everyone concerned with the help I am only now like you all awaiting the Sun to shine on my garden.

Thanks all.;)

Northumbria

Tawny Owl wrote: »

I asked a while back for ideas to cover a shed I built, I said I would put some photos up so here is the start of the shed. I have done some planting on the advice I received on here and will put these up as well thanks to everyone concerned with the help I am only now like you all awaiting the Sun to shine on my garden.

Thanks all.;)

Shed? Looks more like an outbuilding. Virginia creeper or Crimson glory vine would have been perfect for it.

Tawny Owl

Northumbria wrote: »

Shed? Looks more like an outbuilding. Virginia creeper or Crimson glory vine would have been perfect for it.

Well where I live in the Country this is a shed,maybe in England a shed is a small timber building at the end of the Garden, Thanks for the advice on the plants but as in the opening post I dont need something that will take over the garden or in my case the shed.

pwurple

Wow, that is a big shed! My husband would love it.

Can't quite see what you planted from the photos. Is one of them a clematis? If so, those are not self clingers... You need to put up something for it to wrap itself around. Like a trellis. Also , clematis prefer some shade to full sun, so it may not look its best. Should survive though.

What else is there?

paddy147

Who owns the garden boundary wall that the shed is built of off?


Any issues with neighbours over it?



The only problem I can see with that shed is damp and it soaking through into the inside because of non rendered blockwork.Was there a DPC installed aswell,to stop damp rising?


I like the high level side window,nice touch.:)

Is there a window at the other end to allow some light to that end of the shed?

Did you run power to the shed for lighting/sockets?



I like the double doors too...chunky.:)

Tawny Owl

pwurple wrote: »

Wow, that is a big shed! My husband would love it.

Can't quite see what you planted from the photos. Is one of them a clematis? If so, those are not self clingers... You need to put up something for it to wrap itself around. Like a trellis. Also , clematis prefer some shade to full sun, so it may not look its best. Should survive though.

What else is there?

Yeah Clematis I only planted them, I have to fix a trellis on both sides of the door this weekend, there is so much to do I get one thing done and the weather breaks again got the plant advice from this thread great help off everyone a gardener I am not, so will you bear with me and I will check what else I have growing the Sun shines behind the shed early morning at about noon its to the wall at the right and for the rest of the day it shines to the front right on top of the door I hope the plants will surive.

Cheers.:D

Tawny Owl

paddy147 wrote: »

Who owns the garden boundary wall that the shed is built of off?


Any issues with neighbours over it?



The only problem I can see with that shed is damp and it soaking through into the inside because of non rendered blockwork.Was there a DPC installed aswell,to stop damp rising?


I like the high level side window,nice touch.:)

Is there a window at the other end to allow some light to that end of the shed?

Did you run power to the shed for lighting/sockets?



I like the double doors too...chunky.:)

Hi Paddy147
The boundry wall is next doors and I got permission to build against it from my Neighbour

There was DPC put under all the blocks when it was built. someone did say to render it but I heard I can get a clear liquid to paint on the walls to stop the damp entering.

There is no window at the far end. but the light is ok.

The power is on the way have armour plated cable been run to it in the next few weeks by a mate in work and don't panic he is the Electrican.

Gates I bought from a chap in Cavan and had my mate cut them to size and make the hinges and hang them it the shed is starting to take over my life I started it this time last year and what a time to it has been terrible weather never again the lawn needs re seeding I am losing the plot now Ha.:);)

paddy147

Tawny Owl wrote: »

Hi Paddy147
The boundry wall is next doors and I got permission to build against it from my Neighbour

There was DPC put under all the blocks when it was built. someone did say to render it but I heard I can get a clear liquid to paint on the walls to stop the damp entering.

There is no window at the far end. but the light is ok.

The power is on the way have armour plated cable been run to it in the next few weeks by a mate in work and don't panic he is the Electrican.

Gates I bought from a chap in Cavan and had my mate cut them to size and make the hinges and hang them it the shed is starting to take over my life I started it this time last year and what a time to it has been terrible weather never again the lawn needs re seeding I am losing the plot now Ha.:);)

Sounds and looks nice.:)

May I suggest that you use 3 core 10 square SWA for the power to the shed,and get some double sockets installed on the wall in 20mm steel conduit and at 1.2 meters in height.

This means you can install the likes of work benches and potting benches and the sockets will be just above normal working bench height.
Use 2.5 nymj from an IP rated fuse board to the socket locations.1.5 nymj for the lighting.


Thats what I did with the sockets in my own shed.




Again looks like a nice job you did there.:)

Tawny Owl

pwurple wrote: »

Wow, that is a big shed! My husband would love it.

Can't quite see what you planted from the photos. Is one of them a clematis? If so, those are not self clingers... You need to put up something for it to wrap itself around. Like a trellis. Also , clematis prefer some shade to full sun, so it may not look its best. Should survive though.

What else is there?

As promised this is what is planted.

Lonicera Japonica Halls.
Clematic Polish Spirit which you spotted well done.
Pyracantha
Loricera Periclymenium Belgica.

Now all that means nothing to me as I said I am not a gardener but I do like colour and Purple is one,with the trellis added I am hoping the rough look on the shed will improve, my new problem is to grass the soil or let it grow wild to get Butterflies and insects in I dont know, anymore tips I will be delighted.:)

pwurple

Tawny Owl wrote: »

As promised this is what is planted.

Lonicera Japonica Halls.
Clematic Polish Spirit which you spotted well done.
Pyracantha
Loricera Periclymenium Belgica.

Now all that means nothing to me as I said I am not a gardener but I do like colour and Purple is one,with the trellis added I am hoping the rough look on the shed will improve, my new problem is to grass the soil or let it grow wild to get Butterflies and insects in I dont know, anymore tips I will be delighted.:)

The lonicera's are honeysuckle. One evergreen and one which drops the leaves in winter. They would be what I call scramblers rather than climbers. They don't cling, their natural habitat is to twine one or two strong stems up the trunk of a tree and then dangle down from the higher branches. This will need a trellis, but you may find it heading for the roof and making a big clump on top there, rather than covering your wall.

Pyracantha will bush up, and you can clip into almost a hedge. Again, not self clinging.

The clematis, my grandmother's words of wisdom on those was that they 'don't like wet feet'. But it looks fine there, no swampy conditions. It will behave similarly to the honeysuckles. Run up and then clump.

The non-rendered wall itself.... To be honest with you, you don't have plants there that are ever going to completely cover that wall and make it invisible. A clinger like ivy, or virginea creeper might have, and the pyracantha will do about the best job of the lot. Having a deciduous one means you will be looking at the wall through those bare stems for some of the year at least.

paddy147

Hope you dont have any young kids who like to play and run around in the back garden..........with regards to Pyracantha.

It is a very very thorny climber/bush that has big thorns on it,as it grows.


Just be aware of that.

Tawny Owl

paddy147 wrote: »

Hope you dont have any young kids who like to play and run around in the back garden..........with regards to Pyracantha.

It is a very very thorny climber/bush that has big thorns on it,as it grows.


Just be aware of that.

I have two 5 year old Grandchildren girls I asked in the garden centre for plant that would climb and no thorns, should I dig them out, I would like to get it right at the start.:eek:

paddy147

Tawny Owl wrote: »

I have two 5 year old Grandchildren girls I asked in the garden centre for plant that would climb and no thorns, should I dig them out, I would like to get it right at the start.:eek:

Well thats a decision only you can make,with regards to kids and their playfullness and safety in the garden.You know your own grandkids,so what ever you think is what matters.:)
Me personally,I wouldnt,but thats just me.


Garden centre obviously didnt listen to you,with regards to no thorns.




Another member also posted about them having nasty thorns...(page 1).

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=83200319&postcount=5

Tawny Owl

Your right there I remember that now, because I did not want throns don't know why I did not write down the names before I went to the Garden Centre,I think we were just out and you know what happens then, "O look a Garden Centre let's have a look". "the rest as they say"
Thanks anyway for all the help I have read some of your comments on other threads and lots of good advice,

Cheers.:)