Has street crime gotten worse since the recession hit?

Foxhound38

Logic would dictate that with less money around, more people are turning to petty crime - but can anyone truly say they feel less safe than they did in say 2008? When you go out at night, do you feel any more or less vulnerable to being mugged or subjected to some other unpleasant sympthom of scumbagishness?

Cereal Number

All in the game yo

kerry4sam

Foxhound38 wrote: »

Logic would dictate that with less money around, more people are turning to petty crime - but can anyone truly say they feel less safe than they did in say 2008? When you go out at night, do you feel any more or less vulnerable to being mugged or subjected to some other unpleasant sympthom of scumbagishness?

Wouldn't personal characteristics like confidence and courage along with familiar surroundings, not also determine the feeling of vulnerability to being mugged?

Their are so many variables needed to determine an accurate account of feeling safe when out and about.

Victor

While there may be more crimes of 'necessity', there are far fewer public order crimes as people can no longer afford to consume the same amount of alcohol, cocaine and other drugs.

I was in Wexford Street in Dublin about 2006 and it took 14 gardaí to arrest one guy. Even when he was handcuffed and with three of them sitting on him he was still trying to resist.

Cereal Number

kerry4sam wrote: »

Wouldn't personal characteristics like confidence and courage along with familiar surroundings, not also determine the feeling of vulnerability to being mugged?

Their are so many variables needed to determine an accurate account of feeling safe when out and about.

He/she is asking the question all other things being equal

Amirani

Cereal Number wrote: »

He/she is asking the question all other things being equal

It's essentially impossible to apply ceteris paribus to such a question. It's not a theoretical question.

Cereal Number

NiallSparky wrote: »

It's essentially impossible to apply ceteris paribus to such a question. It's not a theoretical question.

How so?

consider, alter the question

You walk down O conell street at 11pm in 2006

You do so again in 2013

When were you more scared of getting mugged?

Amirani

The answer would be different for different people and people can't just ignore outside factors. If you got mugged in 2006 it's obviously going to affect your decision for example.

Depressing philosophy I would hope people start growing and building given same circumstances. The concept of buying solutions to our problems is nieve.

PS. No I feel as safe as luck would have it given any bit of circumstantial sense.

orestes

Cereal Number wrote: »

How so?

consider, alter the question

You walk down O conell street at 11pm in 2006

You do so again in 2013

When were you more scared of getting mugged?

What is the difference in the number of crimes committed in each year? Is there a correlative difference between the number of people in prison in each year? How many gardai are in service? What has been in the news the week you walk down the street? What time of year is it each time? What am I wearing each time?

Asking if people felt safer has shag all to do with whether or not the streets actually are safer.

CollardGreens

Yes

Foxhound38

orestes wrote: »

What is the difference in the number of crimes committed in each year? Is there a correlative difference between the number of people in prison in each year? How many gardai are in service? What has been in the news the week you walk down the street? What time of year is it each time? What am I wearing each time?

Asking if people felt safer has shag all to do with whether or not the streets actually are safer.

But the question was whether you *feel* safer

desertcircus

Surely the question "has street crime gotten worse since the recession hit" is independent of "how safe do you feel now compared to 2006". One of them is pretty subjective, while the first is an entirely objective question. The answer is no.