Sigerson cup 2013

blowitupref

Don't see a thread on this? the quarter finals on this week.

UCC v St Marys
DIT v NUI Maynooth
Athlone IT v CIT
DCU v UCD

Any tips?

cormac halpin

UCD will walk this.

iDave

They'll hardly walk over the defending champs Cormac.

cormac halpin

iDave wrote: »

They'll hardly walk over the defending champs Cormac.

If they're on the ground, they'll step out over them and continue walking.

UCD for the double.

ohyesthefinest

I presume DCU will be without there Ballymun Kickhams players 48 hours before their semi? UCD have some talented players i.e. John Heslin Kevin McLaoughlin Rory O'Carroll Donie Kingston. Aidan Walsh is ineligible for DCU. A UCD win here wouldnt surprise me.

keane2097

Think UCC could give either of DCU/UCD a decent rattle in the final. It's a super competition, a shame there isn't more coverage of it on TV imo.

We've previews of the QFs here if anyone's interested by the way:

http://www.livegaelic.com/news/sigerson-cup-quarter-final-previews/

cormac halpin

keane2097 wrote: »

Think UCC could give either of DCU/UCD a decent rattle in the final. It's a super competition, a shame there isn't more coverage of it on TV imo.

We've previews of the QFs here if anyone's interested by the way:

http://www.livegaelic.com/news/sigerson-cup-quarter-final-previews/

Agreed, but at least TG4 show the finals, so there's that thank God. Also HEGAA are getting some highlights up online also, which is a step forward at least.

keane2097

cormac halpin wrote: »

Agreed, but at least TG4 show the finals, so there's that thank God. Also HEGAA are getting some highlights up online also, which is a step forward at least.

Oh sweet, didn't realise there were clips online. tyty

cormac halpin

keane2097 wrote: »

Oh sweet, didn't realise there were clips online. tyty

Here you go http://www.youtube.com/user/HEGAATV?feature=watch

keane2097

Live updates here again folks:

http://www.livegaelic.com/scores/

blowitupref

Results UCC 0-13 St Mary's 1-6 DIT 2-15 NUI Maynooth 0-12. Other games on tomorrow.

Tom Joad

DCU 2-10
UCD 0-6


Sounds like a comfortable win for DCU.

iDave

Expected DCU to win but not by that much

keane2097

UCD ended up with 13 men, Donie Kingston was one of the red cards.

leedslad

Tom Joad wrote: »

DCU 2-10
UCD 0-6


Sounds like a comfortable win for DCU.

Wonder did Murphy do much damage?

keane2097

leedslad wrote: »

Wonder did Murphy do much damage?

He's not even human IMO:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NCYcHD3Kd_k

Tom Joad

That's just ridiculous - if I tried something like that I'd probably end up knocking myself out

DDC1990

Was at the UCD DCU game today.

First half was very good. Tight defensive battle, DCU's midfield were fairly dominant, and UCD's backs were keeping DCU's forward line in check.

Rory O'Carroll was doing fairly well on Michael Murphy, but all of DCU's first half scores came from O'Carroll mistakes or bad luck on his part.

The first point, he fumbled a high ball, and the DCU corner forward fired a shot, which the GK tipped over.
Then he fouled Murphy, after losing a fairly routine high ball, which Murphy pointed.
Then he "fouled" Murphy in the square for a penalty, which Murphy blasted home. This was never a penalty IMO, so I wouldn't blame him for it at all.


1-2 to 03 at half time.

Then DCU got on top in the second half, but were still only 3 points up when the mayhem started.
Kevin McLoughlin, was being dragged out of along the sideline by Johnny Cooper (I think). McLoughlin then punched the DCU player in the face, and continued the attack, where he was footblocked and hurt his leg. (No free given for either incident). UCD, knew that he was in trouble so they tried to substitute him while the linesman talked to the ref about the punch. The ref then ran to the sideline, and gave both Cooper and McLoughlin yellow cards, and as McL was on a yellow he was given the line. I know he was sent off, but how it wasn't a straight red is beyond me. Im a big fan of McLoughlins, but a punch is a punch.

Not 2 minutes after that, Donie Kingston tried to take a quick free and the DCU player pulled him by the jersey, and held onto him. Kingston, shoved him in the chest, and the player went down holding his face. I thought the ref saw this and thought nothing of it, and actually brought the ball forward, but at the next stoppage, the linesman from the other side came in, and Kingston got a straight red. Now maybe it was for a different incident, but if it was for the shove it was a joke.

That killed the game really, DCU dominated from then on. Paul Flynns goal was pretty good. A switch ball out of defence, long ball into Murphy laid off for Flynn on a loop and banged into the top corner.

Murphy also sold an outragous Dummy to O'Carroll, took the ball inside and popped it over.

At one stage, with 15 v 15, and only 2/3 points in it, UCD were straight through on goal, and there was a blatant push and foot-trip on the player. Not sure if it was inside or outside the penalty area, but the ref didn't give anything. If it was inside, a penalty could have made a big difference.

There wasn't that much between the teams, and the penalty calls made a huge difference, but DCU will be hard to stop, and deserved the win in the end.

rossie1977

cormac halpin wrote: »

UCD will walk this.

Syferus

Only DIT have even a slight hope of stopping DCU making it three out of four now, they are one hell of a machine now.

Utopia Parkway

Tom Joad wrote: »

That's just ridiculous - if I tried something like that I'd probably end up knocking myself out

Actually he didn't intentionally chip his marker. Looked like he went to dummy solo the ball thinking he was about to get blocked and actually miscontrolled it a bit but his marker was out of the game by then having dived in. Nice finish after though.

Redsoxfan

Anyone know where and when the finals are on? No details whatsoever on the 'official' site.

Edit - I see the semi-finals are being played on 22 February at Athlone IT. DCU v DIT should be a good game.

keane2097

Redsoxfan wrote: »

Anyone know where and when the finals are on? No details whatsoever on the 'official' site.

The "Sigerson Weekend" is on in Athlone IT, think it's scheduled for the weekend after next. The grounds down there are superb by all accounts.

Match report on the game this afternoon here:

http://www.livegaelic.com/news/sigerson-cup-quarter-final-dcu-vs-ucd/

andyman

Kingston struck well above the chest, looked like it was in the neck region for me and it was right in front of me. It was a red card imo.

The referee was appalling today. A real homer if I ever saw one.

EDIT: UCD's discipline was terrible throughout, mind. DCU's lads weren't saints but if there was a bit of words between two players you always found there was another UCD lad looking to get involved, whereas DCU's players tended to try break them up. I was right behind the UCD subs and on one occasion there was a sideline ball to DCU in front of them, and they gave Jonny Cooper absolutely no room to take the kick. Appalling sportsmanship.

UCD's best days are ahead of them, though. Their Freshers look excellent with the likes of McCaffrey, Mannion and Niall Kelly coming through and with Ciaran Kilkenny most likely heading there for September.

Tom Joad

Utopia Parkway wrote: »

Actually he didn't intentionally chip his marker. Looked like he went to dummy solo the ball thinking he was about to get blocked and actually miscontrolled it a bit but his marker was out of the game by then having dived in. Nice finish after though.

I was talking about the shot for the point - I'd hit my face on the way if i tried a shot like that

DDC1990

andyman wrote: »

Kingston struck well above the chest, looked like it was in the neck region for me and it was right in front of me. It was a red card imo.

The referee was appalling today. A real homer if I ever saw one.

EDIT: UCD's discipline was terrible throughout, mind. DCU's lads weren't saints but if there was a bit of words between two players you always found there was another UCD lad looking to get involved, whereas DCU's players tended to try break them up. I was right behind the UCD subs and on one occasion there was a sideline ball to DCU in front of them, and they gave Jonny Cooper absolutely no room to take the kick. Appalling sportsmanship.

UCD's best days are ahead of them, though. Their Freshers look excellent with the likes of McCaffrey, Mannion and Niall Kelly coming through and with Ciaran Kilkenny most likely heading there for September.

I disagree, maybe that Youtube page will have it up, but the Camera is on the wrong side for the incident anyway.

I was just to the right of the incident so had a great view, and everyone around agreed that it wasn't a strike, but a push off to the chest.

I think the scream and the theatrical dive conned the linesman. How McLoughlin got a yellow for a strike to the face and Kingston got Red for that I don't know.

Any strike regardless of where it hits is a Red Card, but I really didn't think it was a strike.

keane2097

This is why you shouldn't trust eyewitness testimony!

Live scores for tonight's game as per usual if anyone wants to follow:

livegaelic.com/scores

DDC1990

keane2097 wrote: »

This is why you shouldn't trust eyewitness testimony!

Live scores for tonight's game as per usual if anyone wants to follow:

livegaelic.com/scores

Yeah, I could be wrong, but from where I was, it looked nothing like a strike.

Maybe from right in front, he might have struck him, im not saying that my account is correct and his is incorrect, its just what I saw and the consensus was around me.

On the same topic, I thought Kevin McLoughlin had an excellent game, up to the sending off, got on a pile of ball and had a hand in every good thing UCD did. My friend beside me thought he was poor, and struggled to get into the game. Its amazing the difference in opinions you can get from different people.

keane2097

DDC1990 wrote: »

Yeah, I could be wrong, but from where I was, it looked nothing like a strike.

Maybe from right in front, he might have struck him, im not saying that my account is correct and his is incorrect, its just what I saw and the consensus was around me.

On the same topic, I thought Kevin McLoughlin had an excellent game, up to the sending off, got on a pile of ball and had a hand in every good thing UCD did. My friend beside me thought he was poor, and struggled to get into the game. Its amazing the difference in opinions you can get from different people.

It's funny, I think people get their impressions on individual players based on two or three incidents in a game, if people notice different incidents you can see where vastly different impressions come from, there's just too much info coming at you during a game to get a good sense of everything.

That's why stats are so important, it's mad the lack of them in GAA.

andyman

DDC1990 wrote: »

Yeah, I could be wrong, but from where I was, it looked nothing like a strike.

Maybe from right in front, he might have struck him, im not saying that my account is correct and his is incorrect, its just what I saw and the consensus was around me.

On the same topic, I thought Kevin McLoughlin had an excellent game, up to the sending off, got on a pile of ball and had a hand in every good thing UCD did. My friend beside me thought he was poor, and struggled to get into the game. Its amazing the difference in opinions you can get from different people.

You weren't too far away from me so. I'd love to see it again.

McLoughlin and Heslin were good for UCD imo. It was my first time seeing Heslin live and I was very impressed. Unbelievable leap he has.

Cooper and that Longford wing back (#7) whose name escapes me for DCU were excellent. I thought Flynn had a very bang average game despite the goal.

The UCD subs were hilarious. When McLoughlin struck out they were all saying he was off before play had stopped. After he was sent off they started giving the ref abuse Really baffling.

I don't mean to sound very anti-UCD because they were hard-done by some of the decisions (or lack of). It was only a couple of observations I had made.

DDC1990

andyman wrote: »

You weren't too far away from me so. I'd love to see it again.

McLoughlin and Heslin were good for UCD imo. It was my first time seeing Heslin live and I was very impressed. Unbelievable leap he has.

Cooper and that Longford wing back (#7) whose name escapes me for DCU were excellent. I thought Flynn had a very bang average game despite the goal.

The UCD subs were hilarious. When McLoughlin struck out they were all saying he was off before play had stopped. After he was sent off they started giving the ref abuse Really baffling.

I don't mean to sound very anti-UCD because they were hard-done by some of the decisions (or lack of). It was only a couple of observations I had made.

Yeah everyone could see what they were doing, trying to get him off, but they brought him to the wrong sideline to take him off.

Johnny Cooper and Mickey Quinn (#7 from Longford you were talking about) were great. Two Midfielders were excellent all day for DCU. Massive men. Everytime UCD came down the middle, they ran smack bang into these two giants.

Murphy didn't get much ball, but when he did he did damage.

Heslin, Kingston and McLoughlin were good for UCD. Rory O'Carroll did his best on Murphy, but little lapses let him down. Defensivly with 15 men they looked really solid as a unit.

They defended in front all the time, so were first to every low ball, but they were confident of their pace, and covered any high ball as well.

Physically DCU were miles ahead, and they would have ground UCD down even at 15 a side i'd imagine.

The pitch was in great condition for the weather we had, but all around the pitches was shíte! A few few pairs of white runners got from Santy were lost for ever today i'd imagine. :P

manofwisdom

That would be Michael Quinn from Longford who played Australian rules with Essendon.

keane2097

Yeah Quinn is an absolutely sensational footballer. So is Heslin in fairness actually.

Was talking to a friend of mine this evening about how in twenty years we could be looking back at Michael Murphy as one of the GOATs. So many great players around at the moment, we're lucky to get to see them.

blowitupref

Friday 22nd Feb semi finals

12:45pm DIT v DCU
2:30pm AIT v UCC

Saturday 23rd Feb Final 3pm live on TG4.

keane2097

Sigerson Cup semi-finals kicking off around now. I fancy DIT to have a right cut off DCU. DCU are justifiably favourites but should be warm rather than red hot. Fancy DIT to get one over them tbh. Don't think Athlone will have enough to do the same to UCC, especially if Shine is missing.

Previews of the two matches here by the way, and we'll be doing live updates as well:

http://www.livegaelic.com/news/sigerson-cup-the-weekend-preview/

keane2097

Come on DIT! They're four ahead early on, purring nicely.

keane2097

DIT four up at HT, Jason Doherty with five. Murphy kicked all DCU's scores from frees I think. Very happy so far.

http://www.livegaelic.com/scores/

Syferus

DIT delivered a big win there. Think UCC might beat them tomorrow though, it'll be harder for the DIT lads to get over that win than it will be for UCC to move on from hammering AIT.

At least Athlone made their own tournament but without Cathal Shine fully fit I doubt they had much of a platform to work off in the middle.

rossie1977

at the games today, dcu very very disappointing, for 60mins their only gameplan was kicking the high ball into murphy who was very well marshalled by the dit defense from open play, all of DITs big names played well (doherty, o'sullivan and o'shea), aidan o'shea is a beast, so funny seeing some of the dcu lads just bounce off him, one of the top three players in ireland for me right now

ucc on a different level to athlone unfortunately, the final scoreline flattered athlone, only for gary connaughton and the bar the score would have been much worse, i was in athlone studying last time they reached the sigerson semi final only to lose to eventual winners sligo by a point, that was an athlone team filled with players with intercounty experience, current athlone didn't have that and they struggled once ucc moved up 2 or 3 gears half way through the first half

morgan has ucc a well drilled machine, going to be interesting game tomorrow

copacetic

That looks to be it now, big win for DIT. Much the better side, loads of wides too could have been all over much earlier. Strong side. Well done to them.


Edit - 3-8 to 0-7 with a minute left.

Always_Running

One sided final the two Mayo men Doherty,O'Shea played a big part in DIT success.