2013 Premier League Prediction Comp - League Table and Discussion

Kingp35

Here is the final league table for the 2013 Premier League Prediction Competition.

C.S = Correct Score. C.P = Correct Prediction. H.A = Highest Average. L.A = Lowest Average. H.C = Highest Checkout Pts = Points

                  C.S     C.P     H.A     L.A     H.C      Pts

1) KevIRL          16      26      2       3       1       80
2) mackeire        13      25      2       2       5       73
3) chalkie 501     15      23      2       2       0       72
4) kingp35         11      29      3       2       2       69
5) gramar          11      19      3       3       3       61
5) elevendarter    11      20      4       3       1       61
7) gotya           9       20      5       1       3       56
8) Conor74         6       29      1       2       2       55
9) andrew90        7       23      4       0       3       51
10) BOHtox         7       22      2       3       2       49
11) Paul16         7       19      3       1       0       44
12) StephenHendry  7       17      2       1       1       42
13) Bluezar        6       11      1       2       0       32

gramar

Kingp35 wrote: »

Here is the league table after week one of the Prediction Competition.

C.S = Correct Score. C.P = Correct Prediction. Pts = Points

                  C.S     C.P     Pts
 
1) mackeire        2       2       8
2) kingp35         2       1       7
2) KevIRL          2       1       7
2) chalkie 501     2       1       7
5) Bluezar         1       2       5
5) lami16          1       2       5
7) BOHtox          1       1       4
8) Max Power       0       3       3
9) leggo           0       2       2
10) Paul16         0       1       1
10) andrew90       0       1       1
10) gramar         0       1       1

Anyone who wants to enter the competition can do so starting in week two, you will just be playing catch up on everyone else.

There will be three new categories starting from next week where you can gain a further one point for each of the following: which player gets the highest average, which player gets the lowest average and which player gets the highest checkout.

ahem... catch up is relative..there's a few of us with only the one point!

I think all my predictions have been spot on, but the players are getting it all wrong.

Kingp35

KevIRL has opened up a 4 point gap at the top but and elevendarter is flying up the table. Gonna make for an interesting last few weeks!

KevIRL

Kingp35 wrote: »

KevIRL has opened up a 4 point gap at the top but and elevendarter is flying up the table. Gonna make for an interesting last few weeks!

Indeed he has, some top quality predictions from him lately.

How many weeks are left anyways Kingp?

Gotta say that this predictions league has added greatly to my interest in the PL this year. Still far too bloated a tournament mind

Kingp35

There's 3 weeks left including the Play-Offs week.

elevendarter

It´s a pity I didn´t get involved before a week five. I might have at least 4 points more :-)

Very tight from midtable to just outside the relegation zone...

Kingp35

Congratulations to KevIRL who is the 2013 Premier League Prediction Competition Champion!

KevIRL

My life is finally worth something!

Thanks a million for running this Kingp, it definitely added to the interest in the seemingly never ending weeks of the Premier League this year. Much appreciated.

Have to say, it was the first year I ever really bothered to keep an eye on the PL.

I have no doubt had I entered the first night, I would have got the 26 points needed to take the title...

chalkie 501

Well done KevIRL,and thanks to Kingp35 for the organizing





i demand a recount:p

elevendarter

Congratulations and celebrations... :-) What is going to be another prediction competition? I´d like to catch start next time :-)

Kingp35

I'll have a think about it and see if I can figure anything out for the upcoming tournaments.

KevIRL

Kingp35 wrote: »

I'll have a think about it and see if I can figure anything out for the upcoming tournaments.

A bit in the future, but one that could work would be a World Championship predictions competition, especially with the Christmas break

Another thing that might work for upcoming tournaments might be some form of 'fantasy darts' based on seedings. Eg : You have to pick x number (4-6) of players, and get points for each player depending on how far they go. The players grouped as per the seedings and you have to pick one player from each grouping.

Kingp35

KevIRL wrote: »

A bit in the future, but one that could work would be a World Championship predictions competition, especially with the Christmas break

Another thing that might work for upcoming tournaments might be some form of 'fantasy darts' based on seedings. Eg : You have to pick x number (4-6) of players, and get points for each player depending on how far they go. The players grouped as per the seedings and you have to pick one player from each grouping.

Yeah some good ideas there, the fantasy one could be interesting and would work well for the UK Open coming up considering there are so many players in it and a large amount of seedings.

My only worry for the tournaments not using the fantasy method would be the time constraints as in I would have to try and post the results each day and get predictions from everyone each day which might not work as some people can't get online very day.

Would be worth coming up with a plan for the fantasy darts though and try it out for the UK Open.

KevIRL

Kingp35 wrote: »

Yeah some good ideas there, the fantasy one could be interesting and would work well for the UK Open coming up considering there are so many players in it and a large amount of seedings.

My only worry for the tournaments not using the fantasy method would be the time constraints as in I would have to try and post the results each day and get predictions from everyone each day which might not work as some people can't get online very day.

Would be worth coming up with a plan for the fantasy darts though and try it out for the UK Open.

Cool beans

I dont mind helping out anyways if you want

KevIRL

Looking ahead to the UK Open I was thinking we could work the fantasy game like so

I based it on odds rather than seedings, as the seedings for this are a little all over the place due to the way qualifying ranks are determinded. I was thinking if everyone selects 1 player from each group below

Michael van Gerwen 7/4
Phil Taylor 7/2
Raymond van Barneveld 10/1
Simon Whitlock 14/1

James Wade 14/1
Adrian Lewis 16/1
Robert Thornton 25/1
Kim Huybrechts 25/1

Gary Anderson 25/1
Andy Hamilton 33/1
Dave Chisnall 33/1
Wes Newton 33/1

Dean Winstanley 50/1
Stephen Bunting 50/1
Mervyn King 50/1
Paul Nicholson 66/1

Terry Jenkins 66/1
Peter Wright 66/1
Justin Pipe 66/1
Ian White 80/1
Kevin Painter 80/1
Mark Webster 80/1
Stuart Kellett 80/1
Jamie Caven 80/1

Co Stompe 100/1
Robbie Green 100/1
John Part 100/1
Ronnie Baxter 125/1
Brendan Dolan 125/1
Colin Lloyd 125/1
Richie Burnett 150/1
Andy Smith 150/1


Vincent van der Voort 200/1
Colin Osborne 200/1
Kevin McDine 225/1
Arron Monk 250/1
Terry Temple 250/1
John Henderson 250/1
Michael Mansell 275/1
Wayne Jones 275/1
Roland Scholten 275/1
Magnus Caris 275/1



Nigel Heydon 275/1
John Bowles 275/1
Ted Hankey 275/1
Jyhan Artut 275/1
Mensur Suljovic 275/1
Steve West 300/1
Ken MacNeil 325/1
Antonio Alcinas 325/1
James Hubbard 325/1
Mark Dudbridge 375/1
Jason Hogg 375/1
Dennis Smith 400/1
Andy Jenkins 425/1
Ricky Sudale 500/1
Peter Hudson 500/1
Mark Lawrence 500/1

Gino Vos 500/1
Matthew Edgar 500/1
Richie Howson 500/1
Ross Smith 500/1
Shaun Griffiths 500/1
Alex Roy 500/1
Bernd Roith 500/1
Keith Rooney 500/1
Steve Farmer 500/1
Connie Finnan 500/1
Adrian Gray 500/1
John Scott 500/1
Mark Cox 500/1
Joey Palfreyman 500/1
Leon de Geus 500/1
Johnny Haines 500/1
Kevin Dowling 500/1
Steve Hine 500/1
Andy Boulton 500/1
Ricky Evans 500/1
Tony West 500/1
Adam Hunt 500/1
Jamie Lewis 500/1
Jason Wilson 500/1
Jim Walker 500/1
Paul Amos 500/1
Kirk Shepherd 500/1
Kevin Thomas 500/1
Colin Fowler 500/1
Nick Fullwell 500/1
William O Connor 500/1
Gareth Cousins 500/1

Matt Padgett 500/1
Keegan Brown 500/1
Tomas Seyler 500/1
Gary Stone 500/1
Lee Palfreyman 500/1
Steve Brown 500/1
Conan Whitehead 700/1
Gareth Pass 1000/1
Andy Murray 1000/1
Gus Santana 1000/1
Paddy Meaney 1000/1
Dave Weston 1000/1
Royden Lam 1000/1
David Copley 1000/1
Darren Johnson 1000/1
Campbell Jackson 1000/1
Vernon Sheppard 1000/1
Alan Derrett 1000/1
Dave Place 1000/1
Matthew Dennant 1000/1
Chris Aubrey 1000/1
Darrell Thorpe 1000/1
Scott Robertson 1000/1
Prakash Jiwa 1000/1
Tam Dymond 1000/1
Dean Stewart 1000/1
Maik Langendorf 1000/1
Robbie Singleton 1000/1
Andrew McNicol 1000/1
Andy Parsons 1000/1
Stuart Lowe 1000/1
Darrell Townsend 1000/1
Tony Martin 1000/1
Scott Coleman 1000/1
Paul Whitworth 1000/1
Jake Pennington 1000/1
Mark McGeeney 1000/1
Steven Mead 1000/1
Nigel Daniels 1000/1
Scott Marsh 1000/1
Michael Bushby 1000/1
Matt Gallett 1000/1
Michael Musto 1000/1
Gavin Baker 1000/1
Michael Burgoine 1000/1
Daniel Twist 1000/1
Jamie Hagen 1000/1
Terry Dunford 1000/1

KevIRL

Then we could assign points based on the round of exit of each player.

eg preliminary round exit might be 1 point. Where as overall champion might be 20 points.

Could that work?

elevendarter

Does this mean that I should choose one player from each group who I think he would be the best from his group?
Does it mean that there is 9 groups so I will pick up one player from each one so I have my own "group" of nine players and then I would collect points for every round my player would get to?

KevIRL

elevendarter wrote: »

Does this mean that I should choose one player from each group who I think he would be the best from his group?
Does it mean that there is 9 groups so I will pick up one player from each one so I have my own "group" of nine players and then I would collect points for every round my player would get to?

That's the idea yep. It wouldn't be possible to do a score predictions type competition with so many games happening so quickly. But this could work

Kingp35

I like the looks of that KevIRL. I think it would work well, Count me in anyway.

KevIRL

Kingp35 wrote: »

I like the looks of that KevIRL. I think it would work well, Count me in anyway.

Great stuff, how many rounds in the UK Open? How do you think we should breakdown the points?

Kingp35

There's 9 rounds including the Preliminary round. Maybe do it as 50 points for the winner and work back from that as in 25 for Runner up, 15 for quarter finalist etc.?

KevIRL

Kingp35 wrote: »

There's 9 rounds including the Preliminary round. Maybe do it as 50 points for the winner and work back from that as in 25 for Runner up, 15 for quarter finalist etc.?

Hmmmm 50 for the winner and 25 for the runner up might be too much of a jump. Will knock together something later on based on a prelim round and 8 further rounds and stick up here for thoughts

elevendarter

Anyway, I´d like to see who plays who first. There´s no spider yet.

KevIRL

elevendarter wrote: »

Anyway, I´d like to see who plays who first. There´s no spider yet.

Well entries will be open until the morning of the first game played in the tournament so plenty of time. Would like to have a format established and agreed over the next few days, then post the thread on Wednesday/Thursday which would give people a week to do their homework and pick a killer team

KevIRL

Okay, there are 9 rounds in the UK Open including the preliminary round. I propose the below structure

Winner - 30 points
Runner Up - 20 points
Semi Finalist - 15 points
Quarter Finalist - 12 points
5th round - 10 points
4th round - 8 points
3rd round - 5 points
2nd round - 3 points
1st round - 2 points
Preliminary round - 1 point.

Points assigned to your player based on when they exit. eg 4th round loser will get 8 points and so on.

I dont want there to be too big a gap between first and runner up as having too much of a gap so that its unfairly weighted to having to have the winner. I actually wonder if 10 points is too much of a gap.


Any thoughts or suggestions greatly appreciated.

KevIRL

There is no pre determined draw for this tournament, although rounds prelim, 1 and 2 have been drawn. The top 32 in the UK order of merit only enter in round 3.

Round 1-3 draws are below

Speedy Services UK Open
June 6-9 2013
Preliminary Round
Vincent van der Voort v Andy Murray
Gino Vos v Alan Derrett
Robbie Green v James Wade
Stuart Lowe v Jake Pennington
Royden Lam v Paddy Meaney
Steve Farmer v Chris Aubrey
Nick Fullwell v Wayne Jones
Keegan Brown v Keith Rooney
Tony West v Jamie Lewis
Stephen Bunting v Vernon Sheppard
Connie Finnan v Campbell Jackson
Scott Coleman v Mark McGeeney
Michael Musto v Bernd Roith
Maik Langendorf v Tony Martin
Darren Johnson v Antonio Alcinas
Colin Osborne v Steve Hine
Tam Dymond v Gavin Baker
Terry Dunford v Dean Stewart

First Round
Michael Burgoine v Daz Twist
Dave Weston v Dean Winstanley
Gary Stone v Langendorf/Martin
Jason Wilson v Tomas Seyler
Steve Brown v Adrian Gray
Shaun Griffiths v K Brown/Rooney
Finnan/Jackson v Vos/Derrett
Dunford/Stewart v Gus Santana
Conan Whitehead v Roland Scholten
Fullwell/W Jones v Lam/Meaney
T West/J Lewis v Lowe/Pennington
Michael Bushby v John Mortimer
Andrew McNicol v Steven Mead
Andy Parsons v Jamie Hagen
Paul Whitworth v Andy Boulton
Green/Wade v Matt Gallett
Farmer/Aubrey v Gaz Cousins
Dymond/Baker v Dave Place
Coleman/McGeeney v Scott Marsh
Nigel Daniels v Johnny Haines
Musto/Roith v Ted Hankey
Justin Pipe v Gareth Pass
Leon De Geus v Scott Robertson
Osborne/Hine v Mark Dudbridge
Darrell Thorpe v Bunting/Sheppard
van der Voort/Murray v Kirk Shepherd
Matt Padgett v David Copley
James Hubbard v John Scott
Robbie Singleton v William O'Connor
Prakash Jiwa v Johnson/Alcinas
Matthew Dennant v Darrell Townsend
Mark Lawrence v Mensur Suljovic

Second Round
Pipe/Pass v Jelle Klaasen
Co Stompe v Michael Mansell
Stone/Langendorf/Martin v Dennis Smith
De Geus/Robertson v Whitworth/Boulton
Bushby/Mortimer v Jim Walker
Magnus Caris v van der Voort/Murray/Shepherd
Mark Walsh v Lee Palfreyman
Dymond/Baker/Place v John Henderson
Singleton/O'Connor v Daniels/Haines
Dennant/Townsend v Parsons/Hagen
Kevin Dowling v Phil Taylor
T West/J Lewis/Lowe/Pennington v Steve West
Musto/Roith/Hankey v Weston/Winstanley
Coleman/McGeeney/Marsh v Jyhan Artut
Kevin Thomas v Whitehead/Scholten
Colin Fowler v Padgett/Copley
Peter Hudson v Lawrence/Suljovic
Arron Monk v Farmer/Aubrey/Cousins
Alex Roy v Mark Cox
Terry Temple v Jiwa/Johnson/Alcinas
Burgoine/Twist v Richie Howson
Adam Hunt v Paul Amos
Finnan/Jackson/Vos/Derrett v Brown/Gray
Matthew Edgar v Osborne/Hine/Dudbridge
Joey Palfreyman v Griffiths/K Brown/Rooney
Hubbard/Scott v Andy Smith
McNicol/Mead v Dunford/Stewart/Santana
Thorpe/Bunting/Sheppard v Wilson/Seyler
Ricky Evans v Joe Cullen
Ricky Sudale v Richie Burnett
Green/Wade/Gallett v Fullwell/W Jones/Lam/Meaney
Andy Jenkins v Nigel Heydon

Kingp35

Looks good to me KevIRL.

Whenever you want to start a thread with the format etc I will make it a sticky.

KevIRL

Kingp35 wrote: »

Looks good to me KevIRL.

Whenever you want to start a thread with the format etc I will make it a sticky.

No probs Kingp, might make some small changes to the groupings - put Taylor and MvG in their own group as no one will pick the other 2 in that group and re-allign the other groups. Also will reduce the gap between first and second

Do you think that the stickies get noticed a bit less than a thread on the forum does? Might be better to leave it unstickied.

Will get it posted either later this evening or Wednesday evening.