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I WOULDNT GET INTO A RUSSIAN TANK IF YOU PAID ME

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,195 ✭✭✭goldie fish


    Doesn't have to be a russian tank for that to happen.

    Do you usually post clips of people being killed?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 236 ✭✭booom


    looks like some luck bugger was taking a dump behind the tank when it was hit.


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,533 ✭✭✭iceage


    I reckon he was blown out of it. Lucky bastardo.


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,020 ✭✭✭BlaasForRafa


    iceage wrote: »
    I reckon he was blown out of it. Lucky bastardo.

    Nah I think Goldie Fish is closer to what happened, that guy looked like he was already outside the tank when it got hit. Anyone inside would have been incinerated. From the video, not only did it look like the ready use ammo cooked off but it looked like a round inside the main gun cooked off as well.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,543 ✭✭✭Conmaicne Mara


    How come the other two tanks stayed put for so long? One tank has just been killed, so why stick around for whomever to reload and kill you too?


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  • Registered Users Posts: 156 ✭✭Mankyspuds


    I am not being funny, but does nobody in the Syrian army have acces to Youtube?!? or access to a representitive to the Russian Military!!??!! A quick search into the Chechen War would tell you not to put tanks into an urban enviornment. Madness..


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,979 ✭✭✭Stovepipe


    mankyspuds, tanks do work in an urban environment when correctly handled but are always at risk from dedicated anti-tank teams. The Germans learnt this the hard way in Warsaw in 1939 and the Russians found out the same in 1945 in Berlin. Also, Russian tanks wouldn't necessarily have the best protection for ammunition or fuel, especially in export models.

    regards
    Stovepipe


  • Registered Users Posts: 156 ✭✭Mankyspuds


    Stovepipe wrote: »
    mankyspuds, tanks do work in an urban environment when correctly handled but are always at risk from dedicated anti-tank teams. The Germans learnt this the hard way in Warsaw in 1939 and the Russians found out the same in 1945 in Berlin. Also, Russian tanks wouldn't necessarily have the best protection for ammunition or fuel, especially in export models.

    regards
    Stovepipe

    Thanks for that, My military knowledge is poor at best. I was just thinking of the Grozny assault (the 1st one I think) in the late nineties and how much of a slaughter it was.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,029 ✭✭✭ Nadia Black Grapevine


    I'm an amateur but would tanks have less armour on top than around the sides?

    Hard to see but with some tall building close by it's possible that the tank could have been hit from the top.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,700 ✭✭✭tricky D




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  • Registered Users Posts: 16,226 ✭✭✭✭banie01


    I'm an amateur but would tanks have less armour on top than around the sides?

    Hard to see but with some tall building close by it's possible that the tank could have been hit from the top.

    Generally. yes the armour is weakest on the top.
    Top attack is currently a favoured profile for many advanced anti armour weapons.
    This is exploited by the attack profiles available to many types of modern Anti Tank missiles by utilising a pop up attack to penetrate upper surfaces and was also being pioneered for a Cluster Bomb launched guided submunition too.
    The weapon will release small self guiding bomblets over an armoured column and is mooted to be highly effective.

    That said, it is a method of attack that was pioneered in WW2 by the russians in particular with their IL-2s using small shaped charge bomblets to attack German armour.
    The Russian weapon weighing @6lbs vs the western allies preferred method of 60lb rockets from typhoons and similar aircraft.


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,004 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    Yep and on the German side in WW2 the Ju 87 Stuka was extremely effective in tank attack again coming in from above and aiming for the engine, main body/turret join. Early exponents used bombs and machine gun fire on the lighter Russian tanks, but then later on variants were fitted with anti aircraft guns firing 37mm tungsten carbide rounds meant for the heavier armoured Russian tanks that were coming onto the battlefield. Some real experts at this came out, like Hans Rudel with tank scores into the hundreds(and everything else that dared move on the battlefield). There were rumours that he and other old Stuka pilots were asked for advice when Fairchild Republic were designing the A-10. Apparently it has been confirmed his book was required reading on the project.

    Rejoice in the awareness of feeling stupid, for that’s how you end up learning new things. If you’re not aware you’re stupid, you probably are.



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