Upgrade Wheels from Shimano WH-R500

skstretch

So ive been told that the bike i have is grand for what I want, but that my wheels are absolute crap!
what should I upgrade 2?
wouldnt want to spend much more than €500, I weigh 110kg if that would be part of considerations

colm_gti

Campagnolo zondas or ksyrium elites

Mcofferon

Have a look over in the cycling adverts section, there's a a pair of Ksyrium Elites have just popped up for sale. Might suit?

on_the_nickel

I've got the WH-R500s as my winter wheels. They're absolutely fine for this time of year.

Hold off til the weather gets better and dryer before changing would be my advice.

skstretch

Thanks for the replies

Seaswimmer

For 110Kg weight.

Mavic Open Pro rim with 36 spokes. Ultegra Hub and decent stainless steel spokes.

Get them built here if you want. Not bad value with sterling getting weaker.

http://www.parker-international.co.uk/c/134/Road-Wheels---Hand-Built.html

I have 2 sets built with the above combo and never had a problem.

mossym

Seaswimmer wrote: »

For 110Kg weight.

apologies for asking a question in the ops thread, but i guess what you are saying is that the riders weight makes the previous suggestions of kysrium elites unsuitable. can i just ask what the suitable weight for those wheels are?

Lumen

mossym wrote: »

apologies for asking a question in the ops thread, but i guess what you are saying is that the riders weight makes the previous suggestions of kysrium elites unsuitable. can i just ask what the suitable weight for those wheels are?

There's nothing unsuitable about Ksyriums for a 110kg rider.

In theory more spokes means a stronger wheel because the forces are more evenly distributed.

In practice handbuilt wheels using rims like Open Pros often need more truing than factory wheels with lower spoke counts.

mossym

Lumen wrote: »

There's nothing unsuitable about Ksyriums for a 110kg rider.

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ah okay, jumped to a conclusion that wasn't intended. thanks for the explanation

can i ask why they need more truing? with more spokes shouldn't they hold true longer?

(apologies OP, i can start another thread if this goes past this post, wheels are something i;d like to understand more)

Seaswimmer

Lumen wrote: »

In practice handbuilt wheels using rims like Open Pros often need more truing than factory wheels with lower spoke counts.

interesting..thats not my experience however which is why I went the handbuilt route with higher spoke counts. I suppose it depends on the quality of the build to a certain extent. My experience with factory built low spoke count wheels has been that twice the spoke started to pull out of the rim when a crack developed. Different manufacturers but both rear wheels with 24 spokes.

Not wanting to drag off topic but I attach a not great picture of what I am talking about..

Also mavic recommend a maximum weight of 100kg for rider and bike in this document for Ksyriums

http://www.tech-mavic.com/tech-mavic/technical_manual/data/docs/themes/2_15.pdf

kuro_man

Shimano RS80-c24 are highly regarded
http://www.planet-x-bikes.co.uk/i/q/WPSHRS80CA/shimano_rs80_c24_carbon_wheelset_%28pair%29

detones

skstretch wrote: »

So ive been told that the bike i have is grand for what I want, but that my wheels are absolute crap!
what should I upgrade 2?
wouldnt want to spend much more than €500, I weigh 110kg if that would be part of considerations

I'm in the same boat as yourself with the exact same wheels which came on a Cube Peloton. I have set a budget of €200 to €250 and have narrowed it down to the Mavic Aksiums or Fulcrum 5's, there is very little between these wheels, I was also considering the Shimano RS30 but they are a bit heavy compared to the other 2. If i had the funds I probably would get the Kysrium Élites. I'm not sure how any of these wheels would fair with your weight but i though most wheels were designed for a load of 120kg? (I'm probably wrong on this). I am also a bit wary of buying second hand wheels, they would want to be a real bargain for me to consider it. You can’t beat having some come back on these things.

Sure let us know what you go with.

I weigh about 88kg and I find when climbing the WH500's are flexing a lot so much so its rubbing on the Fork!

Lumen

Seaswimmer wrote: »

iAlso mavic recommend a maximum weight of 100kg for rider and bike in this document for Ksyriums

http://www.tech-mavic.com/tech-mavic/technical_manual/data/docs/themes/2_15.pdf

Aha! Good spot.

You're right, stress cracks in rims are more common with lower spoke counts.

They may take a long time to manifest themselves, which is why I guess one should only take wheel recommendations from people who've worn them all the way through the rim.