best tractor on diesel?

ordinary farmer

im not talking about a 20 or 35. but a 4x4 4 cylinder tractor. ie,, tl100 or case jx90 etc

f140

fiat 90-90 was very light when i had one. my f140 on the other hand is an alcoholic. my 110-90 isnt too bad either. my terex 860 can drink its way through it aswell considering it should be light as its only 4 cyclinder.

1chippy

Hearing that the deutz are good. I have a large generator with a deutz engine and its an absolute miser compared to most in its category.

6480

f140 wrote: »

fiat 90-90 was very light when i had one. my f140 on the other hand is an alcoholic. my 110-90 isnt too bad either. my terex 860 can drink its way through it aswell considering it should be light as its only 4 cyclinder.

i ve a fiat 880 dt5 and its a miser on diesel

convoy

I have a jx90, miser on diesel, only a 70 litre tank and ul find it hard to empty it in the day,12-14 hrs

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reilig

Lads surely it all depends on what you are doing with the tractor??

If you're tipping around the roads with a transport box or putting in a couple of bales a day, then the tractor will be a miser on diesel. If you're doing 4 or 5 hours of agitating then any tractor is going to be hard on diesel!!

red bull

John Deeres have a reputation for being hard on diesel,even at light work

13spanner

Kubotas aren't half bad on the green stuff. Depends very much on what you're doing I suppose!

20silkcut

Zetor 8111 put diesel in it once a few years ago.

feartuath

Filled a massey 375 on the first week of november.
She is filling 2 slatted sheds with shear grab since.
It might want diesel next week.

shane_318is

Ive a zetor 07 12441 4 cylinder turbo put out 127 hp @ pto light on diesel .. Tidy tractor.. Reliable and user friendly.. She does everything 10 ft mower..diet feeder wrapper ..very economical

yellow50HX

buddy of mine has a 120hp zetor, uses it for general farm work, feeding silage bales, cleaning out straw sheds in the winter and uses it for making his silage bales (mowing, baling, drawing and stacking) during the summer. I always reckoned it was too big for the farm other then for doing the silage work during the summer and that he would have been better off with a tidier sized yoke. Anyway he decided to work out its usage over the last few years worked it out that it is actually 15% more efficent over the year than his previous 95HP one.

Have been half thinking of getting a tidy sized 3 pot for home like a 4610 as i actually use the tractor (ford 7610) for a lot of pokey light work like light trailer work, cleaning out the yard, spraying and tipping around the farm. Reckon it might make more sense to get a nice handy yoke from the mid 80's for doing that kinda stuff as i want to upgrade the tractor to get something bigger (4wd) for doing the heavier work like slurry, tillage and silage.

weatherbyfoxer

have a john deere 6300 which is a miser on diesle even doing reasonably heavy work like mowing or carting loads of baled silage around....

have a landini vision 105 with a loader which is a total guzzler!..and all this tractor does is loader work

nashmach

yellow50HX wrote: »

buddy of mine has a 120hp zetor, uses it for general farm work, feeding silage bales, cleaning out straw sheds in the winter and uses it for making his silage bales (mowing, baling, drawing and stacking) during the summer. I always reckoned it was too big for the farm other then for doing the silage work during the summer and that he would have been better off with a tidier sized yoke. Anyway he decided to work out its usage over the last few years worked it out that it is actually 15% more efficent over the year than his previous 95HP one.

Have been half thinking of getting a tidy sized 3 pot for home like a 4610 as i actually use the tractor (ford 7610) for a lot of pokey light work like light trailer work, cleaning out the yard, spraying and tipping around the farm. Reckon it might make more sense to get a nice handy yoke from the mid 80's for doing that kinda stuff as i want to upgrade the tractor to get something bigger (4wd) for doing the heavier work like slurry, tillage and silage.

Best of luck getting a clean 4610 - there are like hens teeth.

We had one as our main tractor up to eighteen months ago and traded it for a 100hp 4wd tractor - lost very very little on it over 7 years and cost next to nothing to maintain.

Still have two little Ford's (3000 and 3600) and someday possibly a Ford 4***.

yellow50HX

nashmach wrote: »

Best of luck getting a clean 4610 - there are like hens teeth.

We had one as our main tractor up to eighteen months ago and traded it for a 100hp 4wd tractor - lost very very little on it over 7 years and cost next to nothing to maintain.

Still have two little Ford's (3000 and 3600) and someday possibly a Ford 4***.

yeah there are few around but hard to come by, uncle had a 4600 for years but traded it about 5 years ago when he built a new shed and it was struggling to feed silage with the small grab. he regrets that he never kept it as the yoke he has now if aqkward with a yard scraper on the back and it was always good to use for in around the sheds

kevthegaff

have a 110-90 pretty good with relatively small d tank

adne

kevthegaff wrote: »

have a 110-90 pretty good with relatively small d tank

Jaysus, i have a 100-90 and its a sow on diesel, i was of the opinion that all fiats are.

When you say pretty good, can you put it in context e.g an example

lakill Farm

the lambo 1050 is 4cyl turbo so normal handy jobs is ok.

ANy road work or heavy work and she sure knows how to burn it. But all in happy with fuel usage

yellow50HX

lakill Farm wrote: »

the lambo 1050 is 4cyl turbo so normal handy jobs is ok.

ANy road work or heavy work and she sure knows how to burn it. But all in happy with fuel usage

have noticed the 7610 is pretty good on juice but then again it depends on what its doing. running the 100" power harrow is the biggest user of juice but we had an 80" before on the 7000 and the 7610 burns a good bit less. the 7000 and 80" would burn a full tank (20gal tank) to do a 8a/c field, the 7610 and 80" would do two runs of the same field and still have bit left over (35gal tank). it'll use roughly the same amount of juice on the 100" but it'll cover the ground faster. Used a neighbours 7810 as few years ago and it lighter on juice then the 7610 but then its a bigger engine and wsnt under as much pressure.

The 7610 will burn the same amount of juice doing light or yard work as does doing most field jobs like topping or spreading and normal trailer work. My dad old dexta was a miser on juice btu all it was ever used for was yard scraping and spraying so was mostly just ticking over under no pressure.

what you use the tractor for and its size will give you an idea of how good it is on juice.

agriman27

1988 massey ferguson 390 full tank lasts a long time on general duties tractor was ahead of its time IMO and super reliable:pac:

kevthegaff

i use about 2500 euros of diesel a year, one tractor-all feeding, slurry(a lot) agitating, fertilliser, scraping, rolling, topping etc for a 90 cow herd with replacements. That has to be good fuel wise, i know lads that use 3-4 times the amount with 120 cows

jersey101

98 case 4240 with loader on her here. During the winter she fills diet feeder, scrapes the yard, beds 80 cows 80 weanlings and 40 heifers. She gets filled once a week generally. About a 90l tank on her id say

Rho b

We have a Fiat 85/90 (4 wd) that does most work, agitating the lagoon, slurry spreading, diet feeder, topping etc. It is a great tractor and tidy about the yard. However we have a 168 MF (2 wd) that beats it hands down except out on wet land.

himwdah

most effiecent we had would have been the 6cyl leyland and 272 and 802 leyland, valmet 8400 is hard ti beat for diesel to output when compared to anything else we have compared it to. worst pig is the 390 which has had engine and injector overhaul, half tank to buckrake for a day, the 399(30km) wouoldnt use that when drawing and it was dogged to keep up with the 10654 renault- which it did with a suitable disrespectful driver! and used less than the renault too!

all aircooled same seemed good too on fuel no matter what work.

whelan1

kevthegaff wrote: »

i use about 2500 euros of diesel a year, one tractor-all feeding, slurry(a lot) agitating, fertilliser, scraping, rolling, topping etc for a 90 cow herd with replacements. That has to be good fuel wise, i know lads that use 3-4 times the amount with 120 cows

use 700 litres a month every month.... although that has been less the last month as no one is driving round the yard for the fun of it:o

maidhc

yellow50HX wrote: »

Have been half thinking of getting a tidy sized 3 pot for home like a 4610 as i actually use the tractor (ford 7610) for a lot of pokey light work like light trailer work, cleaning out the yard, spraying and tipping around the farm. Reckon it might make more sense to get a nice handy yoke from the mid 80's for doing that kinda stuff as i want to upgrade the tractor to get something bigger (4wd) for doing the heavier work like slurry, tillage and silage.

A 4600 will burn as much as a 7610 if it worked to the bone. 4000's are generally lighter on fuel. If either are only tipping around they will burning nothing.

Similarly a TS115 will burn far more mowing with a 10ft moco than lets say topping. I would suspect at least 3 or 4 times the amount. Equally I have found using a eco PTO doesn't save much, as a tractor burns little when not under pressure anyway.

blue5000

reilig wrote: »

Lads surely it all depends on what you are doing with the tractor??

If you're tipping around the roads with a transport box or putting in a couple of bales a day, then the tractor will be a miser on diesel. If you're doing 4 or 5 hours of agitating then any tractor is going to be hard on diesel!!

A very good point reilig, in the winter I can feed over 100 cattle a day for a month on less than a tank (65litres) of diesel, but ploughing I'd use the full tank doing 7 acres with a ford 5000.

I've always heard that the older deutz were very easy on diesel before manufacturers had to comply with tier lll emissions etc. Modern tractors, I am hearing that Kubota are very good. Anybody on here have one?

Muckit

Blue5000.... I seen you posted pics alright of you ploughing with the Ford, but don't you have a fiat 100 or 110/90? Would that really go to town on the diesel ploughing, or are you so in love with the old blue 5000?!

blue5000

Muckit wrote: »

Blue5000.... I seen you posted pics alright of you ploughing with the Ford, but don't you have a fiat 100 or 110/90? Would that really go to town on the diesel ploughing, or are you so in love with the old blue 5000?!

The plough is set up perfect for the ford, sure I'd only break my neck getting up and down all them steps on the fiat to clean the boards:) Generally I only use the fiat for slurry, tilling and trailer work. It likes the juice at agitating too:o

nashmach

Definitely agree with blue5000 point on the older Ford's.

Have several 3 cyl's here and have got practically done 30 hours with a Ford 3600 on a tank and a bit but that is just light work like spraying and fert spreading and it drew a few loads of silage bales too.

When we used to be ploughing with the 4610, start at 10am, need to nearly fill up at 5pm and then go till 11 or 12 and need another sizeable top up.

Landini with one more sod (not under any pressure) :rolleyes:, sails with the plough and burns much less diesel per acre probably a third less!

I use the Landini for roadwork but I will admit it is a little costly going to the co-op for two pallets of fert or some meal when I know the 3600 would do it on less juice but then no price on comfort and cars etc take more notice of a slightly bigger tractor.;)

bob charles

nashmach wrote: »

and cars etc take more notice of a slightly bigger tractor.;)

Those Landini's are babe magnets

jp6470

Just whatever your used to..our fiat and our massey 390 are not the frontline tractors.they have there own jobs and so we always consider them total light weights on fuel.
i record and monitor daily there comsuption...with a brush shaft.thanks to,well electrionic difficulties

lab man

have a renault 620 rz she drinks it! has any one on here got one so i can kno is it just mine tm 125 is really light both doing same work cutting baling etc

nashmach

bob charles wrote: »

Those Landini's are babe magnets

Then I attract the wrong ones.....

You need to trade up from that MF Bob.

kingdom fan

nashmach wrote: »

Then I attract the wrong ones.....

You need to trade up from that MF Bob.

I've a mf690 turbo
Doesn't do any mowing or agitating only fertiliser , spraying , turf and drawing bales
It's an absute alcoholic on diesel
It'll go through a fill in a day no trouble and its a double tank

pakalasa

A David Brown 995 - she'd run on the smell of it.
Seriously though, to keep diesel bills down it is better to have a low HP tractor opened up, than have a high HP tractor ticking over. So match the tractor to the HP requirements. No point in having a 100 HP engine only giving out 50 HP, very inefficient.

jimmy G M

Interesting thread this. Fuel cost going nowhere but up and definitely a lot of tractors going around doing jobs something a lot smaller could handle.

Also it seems like certain tractors are heavier on fuel than others in a comparable power bracket.

Maybe we could club together and come up with a crude measure of fuel consumption of different tractors which would be more measurable than " heavy" or "light" and might prove useful if someone was changing.

I propose the following- fill tractor with diesel and note hours on the clock. Work away for a reasonable period of time say 10 hours. Refill tank but record the amout of fuel needed to refill - I am going to do this using an old 10 l watering can. Calculate the fuel usage per hour - we might use l/hr.

Post the result on this thread. When posting indicate tractor make and model, hp, 2 or 4 wd, and type of work done "heavy" = ploughing harrowing agitating mowing heavy haulage etc and "light" = yard work, topping, fert, tedding etc

Anyone interested in participating?

Muckit

There could be a lot of air locked tractors after it! :pac:

jimmy G M

Muckit wrote: »

There could be a lot of air locked tractors after it! :pac:

Are you not going out drinkin tonight?

Muckit

jimmy G M wrote: »

Are you not going out drinkin tonight?

Na, I'm topping up from the drum tonight so no need to head to the pump :pac:

jimmy G M

jimmy G M wrote: »

Interesting thread this. Fuel cost going nowhere but up and definitely a lot of tractors going around doing jobs something a lot smaller could handle.

Also it seems like certain tractors are heavier on fuel than others in a comparable power bracket.

Maybe we could club together and come up with a crude measure of fuel consumption of different tractors which would be more measurable than " heavy" or "light" and might prove useful if someone was changing.

I propose the following- fill tractor with diesel and note hours on the clock. Work away for a reasonable period of time say 10 hours. Refill tank but record the amout of fuel needed to refill - I am going to do this using an old 10 l watering can. Calculate the fuel usage per hour - we might use l/hr.

Post the result on this thread. When posting indicate tractor make and model, hp, 2 or 4 wd, and type of work done "heavy" = ploughing harrowing agitating mowing heavy haulage etc and "light" = yard work, topping, fert, tedding etc

Anyone interested in participating?

I did this with our MF 4255, 95 hp, 4wd over the past week.

Clocked up 14.5 hours of "light" work - hauling turf and handling bales, loader work in yard. Took 99.5L to refill. That works out at 6.87l/hr, so say 7l hr for simplicity.

Checking out a 390T next, although these older machines clock up hours more slowly than modern MF so will be a greater element of guesswork in it.

blue5000

I'd be dreading to do this on the fiat, no hour clock on the 5000, but used a shade over 9 L per acre at ploughing. I reckon anybody with a (modern) fendt will be able to tell us how many grams/ KW hour they use!

Lab man do you have a MAN engine in the renault?