Apple TV 3rd Gen Jailbreak

polkabunny

Hey guys,
Unexpectedly got my hands on an Apple TV, only issue is I don't have a display that I can use it with right now, so planning on leaving it for the parents to play around with. Only thing is it would be the only Apple product in the house, so they would be unable to use AirPlay or anything like that, and they want access to things like BBC iPlayer and RTÉ Player.
I've been trying to search online but I can't seem to find out if there is a jailbreak out there or not. If there isn't one, is there any other way to get around it?

Thanks in advance

IamMetaldave

No jailbreak for AppleTV V3 as of now. It's a shame, it's holding me back from getting another one, myself. Without the jailbreak, there's no way to add anything that Apple do not already allow.

Stab*City

If your not willing to pay for stuff the ATV3 is pretty much useless at the moment. Even when airplaying i get the letterbox effect because the ipad aspect ratio is 4:3

IamMetaldave

Stab*City wrote: »

If your not willing to pay for stuff the ATV3 is pretty much useless at the moment. Even when airplaying i get the letterbox effect because the ipad aspect ratio is 4:3

That's just messy on Apple's side of things.

kjl

As I have said a few times on this forum, try Gbox Midnight, good box

carrotcake

Stab*City wrote: »

If your not willing to pay for stuff the ATV3 is pretty much useless at the moment. Even when airplaying i get the letterbox effect because the ipad aspect ratio is 4:3

It works fine for me, from the video apps that I've tried. Maybe you're using mirroring instead of Airplay from within an app?

Graham

kjl wrote: »

As I have said a few times on this forum, try Gbox Midnight, good box

Did you miss the part where the OP posted in the Apple Devices forum where he clearly states he already has an AppleTV?

kjl

Graham wrote: »

Did you miss the part where the OP posted in the Apple Devices forum where he clearly states he already has an AppleTV?

Did you miss the part where I am giving advice for others who might consider purchasing a tv box.

Graham

Ahhh, sorry now I understand. You're giving advice to a question that wasn't asked. Got it now.

In case anyone does come across the same advice you've been banging out every-time someone mentions AppleTV:

Amazon reviews on the GBox Midnight:

Great Device
Wi-Fi Sucks
Updates brick the device
Excellent mini box
DOA
Android is the worst platform for XBMC
An authentic and truly negative experience
Powerful Andriod box
Needs Work
Not ready for the general consumer

I'm sure it is a great box although the reviews are fairly mixed and I doubt it would pass the wife/girlfriend/mother test.

kjl

Graham wrote: »

Ahhh, sorry now I understand. You're giving advice to a question that wasn't asked. Got it now.

In case anyone does come across the same advice you've been banging out every-time someone mentions AppleTV:

Amazon reviews on the GBox Midnight:

Great Device
Wi-Fi Sucks
Updates brick the device
Excellent mini box
DOA
Android is the worst platform for XBMC
An authentic and truly negative experience
Powerful Andriod box
Needs Work
Not ready for the general consumer

I'm sure it is a great box although the reviews are fairly mixed and I doubt it would pass the wife/girlfriend/mother test.

The title of this thread is about jailbreaking an apple tv, the only benefit of which is getting XBMC on it. All I am saying is there are comparable devices out there which do not need to be hacked to get them to run this software.

This box was a work in progress, but now there is both a very stable android and Linux build for it. So maybe do a little more research before you flame my post, not that I don't think searching amazon is enough research to make an informed decision . :rolleyes:

Why exactly all the negativity about me telling people about this box? Are you stuck with a useless Apple TV 3 and wish you didn't waste your money on a device that won't even play xvid without at least a €400 peripheral.

Graham

OP didn't ask about XBMC, he asked about BBC iPlayer and RTÉ Player.

branners69

It seems like the 3rd gen will never be jailbroken and Apple are launching the 4th gen this year which will be much easier to jailbreak.

So if like me you have a couple of 3rd gens then you are out of luck!!

Creamy Goodness

branners69 wrote: »

It seems like the 3rd gen will never be jailbroken and Apple are launching the 4th gen this year which will be much easier to jailbreak.

So if like me you have a couple of 3rd gens then you are out of luck!!

just curious as to what makes you think the 4th gen will be any easier to hack than the 3rd gen?

branners69

Creamy Goodness wrote: »

just curious as to what makes you think the 4th gen will be any easier to hack than the 3rd gen?

Apple know they made a mistake. Whilst sales of the 3rd gen wasnt terrible - approx 2.7 million units from March to December 2012. They sold 1.4 million units of the 2nd gen in the first three months of 2012! Nevermind the other two million odd they sold in 2011.

I for one would have bought one or two more if they could be jailbroken!

So rumour has it they are going to make it a bit easier as not much time has been dedicated to jailbreaking the 3rd gen. There have been much larger sales of iPads, iPhones and touches which most people want to see jailbroken first!

I read the specs of the proposed 4th gen and there are a couple of subtle changes to it!

Creamy Goodness

i honestly don't think apple are going to go out of their way to make the thing more 'jailbreakable' that's just absurd.

branners69

Creamy Goodness wrote: »

i honestly don't think apple are going to go out of their way to make the thing more 'jailbreakable' that's just absurd.

Time will tell!

kjl

Graham wrote: »

OP didn't ask about XBMC, he asked about BBC iPlayer and RTÉ Player.

which are both xbmc plug ins thay won't run on atv any other way, I should know, they are both on my repo

kjl

branners69 wrote: »

Time will tell!

Time won't tell, Apple make money from selling content on the ATV not from the hardware, they are hardly going to make it easier for people to circumvent security on the box so they don't pay for content, if anything it will be harder to jailbreak.

I know you looked at the specs, but honestly that means diddly squat around here.

Stuxnet

Creamy Goodness wrote: »

i honestly don't think apple are going to go out of their way to make the thing more 'jailbreakable' that's just absurd.

not really, its a fact apple sales go up & ios upgrades go through the roof when new jb's come out, will be interesting to see the new stats for sales & ios 6.1 upgrades after yesterdays release

adox

I have an ATV2 jailbroken and have to say XBMC runs horribly on it, although I am running an old firmware, but it never ran smoothly for me.

I use Plex for streaming local media and the difference is night and day.

Crimson King

adox wrote: »

I have an ATV2 jailbroken and have to say XBMC runs horribly on it, although I am running an old firmware, but it never ran smoothly for me.

I use Plex for streaming local media and the difference is night and day.

I have an ATV2 running XBMC (eden)and have never found any difficulties running file formats. I use my home PC with an additional HDD to store my movies and TV series's and with the exception of one movie have always found XBMC amazingly easy to use and top class standards.

Creamy Goodness

Stuxnet wrote: »

not really, its a fact apple sales go up & ios upgrades go through the roof when new jb's come out, will be interesting to see the new stats for sales & ios 6.1 upgrades after yesterdays release

as kjl stated, apple make a truck more cash from content than they would do from the bump in hardware sales.

kjl

adox wrote: »

I have an ATV2 jailbroken and have to say XBMC runs horribly on it, although I am running an old firmware, but it never ran smoothly for me.

I use Plex for streaming local media and the difference is night and day.

try the latest frodo build, works like a charm for me

adox

kjl wrote: »

try the latest frodo build, works like a charm for me

Yeah I installed it last night. It has crashed a couple of times for me and still wont support 5.1 for me for some reason.

Much nicer interface though. Its still quite laggy for me though. I did read that its recommended to run with firmware 5 and above but I`m back on 4.2 or something so maybe that isnt helping.

adox

Crimson King wrote: »

I have an ATV2 running XBMC (eden)and have never found any difficulties running file formats. I use my home PC with an additional HDD to store my movies and TV series's and with the exception of one movie have always found XBMC amazingly easy to use and top class standards.

I`ve had issues playing HD files through it in the past and it never supported 5.1 sound, although the latest incarnation is supposed to. Of course it has the huge advantage of having so many plugins too but purely as a format for streaming local media I much prefer Plex.

L'prof

adox wrote: »

I`ve had issues playing HD files through it in the past and it never supported 5.1 sound, although the latest incarnation is supposed to. Of course it has the huge advantage of having so many plugins too but purely as a format for streaming local media I much prefer Plex.

Does Plex work like OpenElec? As in, it needs a mac running at all times to stream content? I much prefer streaming content from a NAS myself.

adox

L'prof wrote: »

Does Plex work like OpenElec? As in, it needs a mac running at all times to stream content? I much prefer streaming content from a NAS myself.

Yeah the Mac has to be running but it's not an issue for me as I never turn it off anyway.

L'prof

adox wrote: »

Yeah the Mac has to be running but it's not an issue for me as I never turn it off anyway.

Don't have a mac, not sure if I'll ever bother with one either. If it was in another room, it'd be fine, but if it was a laptop with the fan goin nuts beside ya (dunno how loud the fans on MacBooks get), it'd drive me nuts!

kjl

L'prof wrote: »

Don't have a mac, not sure if I'll ever bother with one either. If it was in another room, it'd be fine, but if it was a laptop with the fan goin nuts beside ya (dunno how loud the fans on MacBooks get), it'd drive me nuts!

Not a fan of plex personally, I like XBMC as it works as a standalone box, plus the python dev platform is very easy to use.

branners69

kjl wrote: »

Time won't tell, Apple make money from selling content on the ATV not from the hardware, they are hardly going to make it easier for people to circumvent security on the box so they don't pay for content, if anything it will be harder to jailbreak.

I know you looked at the specs, but honestly that means diddly squat around here.

Of course apple make money from selling content but not as much as you might think! A huge proportion of ATV's are used for Netflix and Hulu.

And do you really think that Apple are concerned with the handful of people in their eyes which would jailbreak their ATV? Most people wouldn't know and wouldn't be bothered to jailbreak their ATV. But those who are interested in free movies and tv are going to do it anyway so apple may as well get the hardware sale.

And as I said we will see!!

kjl

branners69 wrote: »

Of course apple make money from selling content but not as much as you might think! A huge proportion of ATV's are used for Netflix and Hulu.

And do you really think that Apple are concerned with the handful of people in their eyes which would jailbreak their ATV? Most people wouldn't know and wouldn't be bothered to jailbreak their ATV. But those who are interested in free movies and tv are going to do it anyway so apple may as well get the hardware sale.

And as I said we will see!!

Apple proactively block every exploit as they are found, they are in no way shape of form going to enable security exploits in their devices so the select few can watch free content on their devices.

Do you work for apple, are you part of the new development team? And if you are should you really be talking about you insider knowledge on a public forum?

Fact is you are just following the roomer mill which knows nothing and speculate based on hope.

All time will tell is that you don't know what you are talking about.

The only reason ATV2 can be hacked at all is because the shatter exploit which is a boot rom exploit, all other jailbreaks are as a result of firmware exploited which we can access because we have an internet browser on the device . Without the ability to run anything on the ATV we can't inject the jailbreak code into the device, hence no jailbreak.

Sad Professor

Apple won't make the ATV easier to jailbreak, but they will probably eliminate the need for jail breaking for most people when they open the ATV up to third party apps. This is the obvious next step, though it probably won't happen until Apple have their full HDTV offering ready.

120_Minutes

branners69 wrote: »

I read the specs of the proposed 4th gen and there are a couple of subtle changes to it!

if its the report that i read a couple of weeks ago, its hardly a 4th gen with those subtle changes. more like a 3.2

Mimikyu

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gzoladz

I cant see the point of an Apple TV now that xbmc is available for Android.

Better to get any android set top tv box for half the price,

Creamy Goodness

gzoladz wrote: »

I cant see the point of an Apple TV now that xbmc is available for Android.

Better to get any android set top tv box for half the price,

unless of course you want to legitimately buy content. Google's video service is a long way off from being in ireland.

polkabunny

Well, this thread exploded while I wasn't looking!
Thanks for the advice guys. I hadn't purchased the Apple TV myself, I won it in a competition, so I just have no idea what to do with it. I wasn't really going for using it for trying to get free films and TV shows through using it, I was just wondering if it was possible to get anything like RTÉ/BBC/iPlayer/etc onto it.

Thanks for all the advice, I guess we'll just see if Apple will add that sort of compatibility in. I might invest in a screen and do some AirPlay with my iPod Touch. I have plenty of time to mess around with it anyway

DubDJ

It's madness to think Apple will purposely make it easy for people to jailbreak their Apple TV's. I don't know where your getting the "rumours" from but i'd bet a lot of money that they are just that, rumours.

I agree with Sad Professor. I think the next logical step is to open an App Store for the ATV. It's something i'd really love to see. It'd be great having RTE and TV3 players available directly from the ATV. I could also see devs creating full screen games which let's you use an iOS device paired via bluetooth to control the games/apps. And even a safari web browser built in, with the updated bluetooth keyboard support I can see a lot of potential. Especially if they keep it around the €100 price mark.

kjl

DubDJ wrote: »

It's madness to think Apple will purposely make it easy for people to jailbreak their Apple TV's. I don't know where your getting the "rumours" from but i'd bet a lot of money that they are just that, rumours.

I agree with Sad Professor. I think the next logical step is to open an App Store for the ATV. It's something i'd really love to see. It'd be great having RTE and TV3 players available directly from the ATV. I could also see devs creating full screen games which let's you use an iOS device paired via bluetooth to control the games/apps. And even a safari web browser built in, with the updated bluetooth keyboard support I can see a lot of potential. Especially if they keep it around the €100 price mark.

I think android is the way forward for tv boxes, between ouya, gbox and nvidia shield, atv will be pretty obsolete

DubDJ

kjl wrote: »

I think android is the way forward for tv boxes, between ouya, gbox and nvidia shield, atv will be pretty obsolete

Maybe, but at the moment they've nothing really decent available. I've yet to see one decent Android TV box. I don't know one single person with one and rarely see people talking about them. There's not too much you can do with an ATV now but it's still a great device for the price it's at. Some of the Android powered boxes are double and price and don't offer too much in return, and are often unstable.

Android has come a long way in the tablet space in the last year, maybe they'll do the same with a TV set.

mcw92

Can someone tell me why exactly woud one jailbreak a apple tv?

I currently have a macbook pro and an ipad mini so can they integrate somehow?

Also i wouldnt be doing to much heavy streaming on it as the internet is not to great for that sometimes.

Thanks.

kjl

mcw92 wrote: »

Can someone tell me why exactly woud one jailbreak a apple tv?

I currently have a macbook pro and an ipad mini so can they integrate somehow?

Also i wouldnt be doing to much heavy streaming on it as the internet is not to great for that sometimes.

Thanks.

You would jailbreak it to install XBMC which is a very good media center that can play any file format users can write little app like things called addons. The addon community has a large following and they have written ways to watch free movies,tv shows and sport on it.

Hogzy

mcw92 wrote: »

Can someone tell me why exactly woud one jailbreak a apple tv?

I currently have a macbook pro and an ipad mini so can they integrate somehow?

Also i wouldnt be doing to much heavy streaming on it as the internet is not to great for that sometimes.

Thanks.

XBMC. Install it on your macbook and have a play around with it. Its a fantastic bit of software if you have a media collection.