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  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 15,694 Mod ✭✭✭✭Tabnabs


    They should probably fire the Granuaile up. This is headed our way now, thanks Canada!


  • Registered Users Posts: 254 ✭✭Freedive Ireland


    stick a mariner 150 on her and away we go. I could do with a good size dive boat.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,073 ✭✭✭gobnaitolunacy


    There was a case of a cargo ship that 'got away' and drifted around for nearly 40 years, the SS 'Baychimo'

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SS_Baychimo


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,935 ✭✭✭randy hickey




  • Registered Users Posts: 4,041 ✭✭✭who the fug


    Probably more pollution than Brent spar, why aren't Greenpeace protesting or doing something


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,195 ✭✭✭goldie fish


    Probably more pollution than Brent spar, why aren't Greenpeace protesting or doing something


    Why. Did they fill the passenger cabins with oil?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 771 ✭✭✭seanmacc


    With the age of the thing and how nobody wants it you'd probably find that the reason nobody wants it is because its full of nasty asbestos and other surprises. It would probably cost a bomb to bring it up to code or dispose of it safely.


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,041 ✭✭✭who the fug


    Why. Did they fill the passenger cabins with oil?

    You be working off the Greenpeace figures


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,380 ✭✭✭derry


    Green peace is now communist EU government front who look to protest certian events like save willy the whale
    This is Russian ship Russian dont got the money wont pay attention to protests and they got bucket loadds of ships like this sitting in bays and beaches rusting away full of oil or nuke engines

    Derry


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,195 ✭✭✭goldie fish


    Riiiiiiight....


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  • Registered Users Posts: 5,077 ✭✭✭Mech1


    last heard of here

    article-0-18A55059000005DC-139_634x438.jpg


  • Registered Users Posts: 12,155 ✭✭✭✭MadYaker


    Id love to find it, climb on board and have a poke around. Id say it would be creepy as hell.


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,077 ✭✭✭Mech1


    tow it in, we need a new prison.








    Fill it and send it back.


  • Registered Users Posts: 372 ✭✭jamesdiver


    Ah crap, if it keeps going south, ill miss it on me next survey.


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 2,688 Mod ✭✭✭✭Morpheus


    Let the defence forces use it for a Sink-ex, let the navy blow the shizzle out of it and send it to the bottom.


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,559 ✭✭✭andy_g


    Morpheus wrote: »
    Let the defence forces use it for a Sink-ex, let the navy blow the shizzle out of it and send it to the bottom.

    Or sink it and use it as an artificial reef for diver's or shallow enough for wreck diving big enough industry to do for divers.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,073 ✭✭✭gobnaitolunacy


    andy_g wrote: »
    Or sink it and use it as an artificial reef for diver's or shallow enough for wreck diving big enough industry to do for divers.

    It would have to be stripped down, as much wiring/semi loose gear as possible removed, all fuel/chemicals taken off and access holes cut in it. Don't want someone getting snagged down there esp. with todays litigious culture.


  • Registered Users Posts: 12,311 ✭✭✭✭Skerries


    watch this film and then enter it



  • Registered Users Posts: 7,559 ✭✭✭andy_g


    It would have to be stripped down, as much wiring/semi loose gear as possible removed, all fuel/chemicals taken off and access holes cut in it. Don't want someone getting snagged down there esp. with todays litigious culture.

    You'd be suprised tbh as wreck diving has its hazzards and divers know what they are in for if they snag and are trained to untangle themselves :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,073 ✭✭✭gobnaitolunacy


    andy_g wrote: »
    You'd be suprised tbh as wreck diving has its hazzards and divers know what they are in for if they snag and are trained to untangle themselves :)

    You would think that. Not every diver is trained to high standards, and even when they are, things can still go pear-shaped for a multitude of reasons.
    These are a few sobering stats on a more famous wreck, granted that mania for collecting artifacts and crockery etc in far reaches of a disintegrating wreck was the main reason for cutting corners and risk-taking in this case.


    Artifact recovery on Andrea Doria has resulted in additional loss of life. Sixteen scuba divers have lost their lives diving the wreck,[19] and diving conditions at the wreck site are considered very treacherous. Strong currents and heavy sediment that can reduce visibility to zero pose serious hazards to diving this site. Dr. Robert Ballard (the man responsible for locating the wrecks of the ocean liner Titanic, the German battleship Bismarck and the American aircraft carrier Yorktown), who visited the site in a U.S. Navy submersible in 1995, reported that thick fishing nets draped the hull. An invisible web of thin fishing lines, which can easily snag scuba gear, provides more danger. Furthermore, the wreck is slowly collapsing; the top of the wreck is now at 190 feet (58 m), and many of the passageways have begun to collapse.
    1985 – John Ormsby died after being caught in wires and drowning.[20][21]
    1998 – Craig Sicola, Richard Roost and Vincent Napoliello all died diving on Andrea Doria.[20]
    1999 – Christopher Murley and Charles J. McGurr both died of apparent heart attacks preparing for a second dive.[20][22]
    2002 – William Schmoldt died from decompression sickness.[23]
    2006 – Researcher David Bright died from decompression sickness.[24]
    2008 – Terry DeWolf of Houston, Texas died during dive on wreck, cause of death is still undetermined.[25]
    2011 – Michael LaPrade of Los Angeles died during a dive on the wreck.[26]


    A group, individual or a dive centre could potentially be liable if their purposely scuttled wreck claimed the life of a diver due to neglect in removing obstacles/hazards prior to sinking as an artificial reef/dive attraction.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 7,559 ✭✭✭andy_g


    58m falls under tech diving so ya wont get guys taking a risk to go down to 58m normally they'll hover round the 40m where their insurance stops.

    If they did go to 58m their ABT (actual bottom time) works out at about 4mins so not much to see in 4mins at that depth.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,195 ✭✭✭goldie fish


    andy_g wrote: »
    58m falls under tech diving so ya wont get guys taking a risk to go down to 58m normally they'll hover round the 40m where their insurance stops.

    If they did go to 58m their ABT (actual bottom time) works out at about 4mins so not much to see in 4mins at that depth.

    Fatality in west cork earlier this year, diver going well below that depth. Local rescue agencies not equipped to search that deep. Not found.


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,559 ✭✭✭andy_g


    Fatality in west cork earlier this year, diver going well below that depth. Local rescue agencies not equipped to search that deep. Not found.

    Again that story and the guy known in the tech diving community therfor not needing to remain at 40m as below 40 is tech diving working on a different air system may have been rebreather or trimix. From what i recal he was by himself and got snagged up.

    Removing from a snag in tech diving is your buddies job.


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