where do you keep the bull in winter

Tomjim

I outwinter mine with a cow and a calf, they have the run of about 6 acres and I give them a bale of silage once a week.

What does everyone else do

ZETOR_IS_BETTER

I leave him out for a month longer with a few late calvers. Then put him on straw bed in his own pin where he can see the other animals about.

Israel_Dagg

Leave him in a small field. Better out than in on the hard ground. They're well able for the average winter.

blue5000

3 out together in half a hilly paddock, they get a grab of silage every second day. Only problem is the aubrac goes over and back to the other half of the paddock. The little batsard must have plastic hooves like his calves:)

munkus

blue5000 wrote: »

3 out together in half a hilly paddock, they get a grab of silage every second day. Only problem is the aubrac goes over and back to the other half of the paddock. The little batsard must have plastic hooves like his calves:)

Only ever had one bull. Would they fight when put together?

redzerologhlen

blue5000 wrote: »

3 out together in half a hilly paddock, they get a grab of silage every second day. Only problem is the aubrac goes over and back to the other half of the paddock. The little batsard must have plastic hooves like his calves:)

How do you put them together blue, I know of a man that has 5 bulls that sedates them but just enough to make them drowsey and puts them all together, no free for all after doing it so he says.

blue5000

redzerologhlen wrote: »

How do you put them together blue, I know of a man that has 5 bulls that sedates them but just enough to make them drowsey and puts them all together, no free for all after doing it so he says.

Went ok the last time, had them all a bit hungry, so that when they were fed they'd settle down. There's never any problem with the angus, he is the biggest and the other two know it.

I put them all together last autumn in a small paddock near the yard where if things went wrong I could (hopefully) split them up. Anyway the Aubrac and the blonde went for each other and one of them got pushed against the mains fencer. Both got the shock, each thinking that the other lad caused it I suppose;)

Once that happened there's been no problem since. I think 2 evenly matched bulls would be worse than 3 unevenly matched bulls. I've never had them working together with 1 batch of cows.

moy83

Both got the shock, each thinking that the other lad caused it I suppose

Must have been some look on them , wondering what kind of super power the other had

whelan1

aa stock bull out on his own all winter, needs to loose some condition, br/fr stock bull was with autumn calvers until last friday, now in slatted shed with 1 cull cow. A few years ago we mixed 2 groups of pb aa bulls , 2 of them where fighting and one of them got an awful clatter on the head, he died while the vet was examining him, vet did a pm , he died of a brain haemorage(sp)

delaval

Ours are dairy mop up bulls and are slaughtered on removal from cows. Too risky around the place FR can be cross Je absolutly deadly would never have one here again. Years ago the spring Show (anyone remember) insisted on two handlers for Jerseys probably small man syndrome!!

mf240

delaval wrote: »

Ours are dairy mop up bulls and are slaughtered on removal from cows. Too risky around the place FR can be cross Je absolutly deadly would never have one here again. Years ago the spring Show (anyone remember) insisted on two handlers for Jerseys probably small man syndrome!!

Do you breed everything to dairy?

delaval

We do. We sell anything not by AI. Same two guys for last few years have no problem with the fact that they are by stock bulls and we wouldn't evan know which bull they are by

1chippy

put the bull in a field beside your nearest dairy man, they keep the cows out all winter so they can keep your bull company and if hes lucky enough to get through the fence he will be eating very high quality grass and maybe get his leg over.

loveta

munkus wrote: »

Only ever had one bull. Would they fight when put together?

put them in a yard together but in a way they can see each other without getting at other leave em there for a few hours and normally they have them selfs settled by then. heard one guy saying he puts a bit of parafin on each of there backs that way they all smell the same;)

yellow50HX

we leave him in with the cows. As they are out on the beet everyday for a few hours so he is not in the shed all the time. Havent had any problems with him. He would be with the cows all summer so well used to them. Lies in the slats most of the time but also goes into the cubicle house. Tired seprating them a few years ago but the lad we had started to get a bit narky. Had a seprate pen for him on straw next to the cows but he spent most of the time rootign the straw and rubbing the gates till they bent. Left him back in with the cows and he was quite as a lamb. I suppose they just get lonely after been in the herd for the summer.

I reckon they are proably safer if they are left with the cows. As we have sucklers and they are used to being brought in and out everyday it probaly makes them more used to us and he dosent get as excited when someone walks through the field. Probably a different story with a dairy herd.

lad round here used to always say that a bull should never be left on his own, and should always be able to see the yard. He used to run 2 bulls every year, one with the cows and an AA with his heifers. In the winter he would leave them outside on 2 fields on oppisite sides of the yard with a couple of donkeys. They would be fed at the gate so would be used to him and all the noise. I asked him once about the donkeys and he said he kept them for company for the bulls, as they wouldnt take any of their ****e.

hugo29

mine is in the shed in a section of the creep on his own, will let him in to the cows when i get a few more calved, I only have him there as changed bull before xmas and wanted to get him used to me, last year bull was on slats with cows

is it safe to let him bull them on slats, its his first time, but lads tell me not to let young bull do his job on the slats

49801

have him in the rough field next to the yard and is fed silage.

Bodacious

yellow50HX wrote: »

we leave him in with the cows. As they are out on the beet everyday for a few hours so he is not in the shed all the time. Havent had any problems with him. He would be with the cows all summer so well used to them. Lies in the slats most of the time but also goes into the cubicle house. Tired seprating them a few years ago but the lad we had started to get a bit narky. Had a seprate pen for him on straw next to the cows but he spent most of the time rootign the straw and rubbing the gates till they bent. Left him back in with the cows and he was quite as a lamb. I suppose they just get lonely after been in the herd for the summer.

I reckon they are proably safer if they are left with the cows. As we have sucklers and they are used to being brought in and out everyday it probaly makes them more used to us and he dosent get as excited when someone walks through the field. Probably a different story with a dairy herd.

lad round here used to always say that a bull should never be left on his own, and should always be able to see the yard. He used to run 2 bulls every year, one with the cows and an AA with his heifers. In the winter he would leave them outside on 2 fields on oppisite sides of the yard with a couple of donkeys. They would be fed at the gate so would be used to him and all the noise. I asked him once about the donkeys and he said he kept them for company for the bulls, as they wouldnt take any of their ****e.

I saw a 14.2 connemara mare quieten a 6 year old limousin bull few years back, he broke into her field rattled her with the head but as soon as he put his head into her bucket/barrel of food... she went at right angles to him backed up and gave him both legs up into the ribs.. such a belt!!

grazeaway

Bodacious wrote: »

I saw a 14.2 connemara mare quieten a 6 year old limousin bull few years back, he broke into her field rattled her with the head but as soon as he put his head into her bucket/barrel of food... she went at right angles to him backed up and gave him both legs up into the ribs.. such a belt!!

the parents used to keep horse's and ponies when we were younger. soemthing similar happened with one they had too. Bull didnt know that happened, was a quite boy after that. We also had a young cow that did the splits while calving on concrete and hurt her back. My dad put her into a small field by the house for the summer to help her recover, one day one of the mares broke in and went to take her feeding and the cow gave her a right slap. My dad was terrified the cow would keel over and hurt her self again. It was kind funny in a way this little bokity cow giving grief to a big strong horse

Bodacious

grazeaway wrote: »

the parents used to keep horse's and ponies when we were younger. soemthing similar happened with one they had too. Bull didnt know that happened, was a quite boy after that. We also had a young cow that did the splits while calving on concrete and hurt her back. My dad put her into a small field by the house for the summer to help her recover, one day one of the mares broke in and went to take her feeding and the cow gave her a right slap. My dad was terrified the cow would keel over and hurt her self again. It was kind funny in a way this little bokity cow giving grief to a big strong horse

we have a good few of them but on general they are allowed no where near the cows/calves,,.. they just cause havoc chasing then.. plus with the bad summers.

Have one mare and she is an exception, an absolute lady, would trust her 100%, super intelligent animal.. she is almost human and would know she would get her ass chucked out of the good grass if she upsets the cattle but have another big dope of a young mare and had her and her mother (good mare) cleaning out the "cow dung grass patches" after the cows, electric fence between them but shared the same water trough, i had a 600kg char bullock kept from the summer before for teasing, big soft docile lump he was and she leaned over the wire at the trough and sunk her teeth into him....he went down the field and thought about it... back up again.. lined her up, put his head below on the ground and waited for her to try the teeth again and up he came with the head and levelled her.... i thought he broke every tooth in her head, i had to catch her and see was she damaged.. she was seeing stars!!:D an eye for an eye i suppose

just do it

Bodacious wrote: »

we have a good few of them but on general they are allowed no where near the cows/calves,,.. they just cause havoc chasing then.. plus with the bad summers.

Have one mare and she is an exception, an absolute lady, would trust her 100%, super intelligent animal.. she is almost human and would know she would get her ass chucked out of the good grass if she upsets the cattle but have another big dope of a young mare and had her and her mother (good mare) cleaning out the "cow dung grass patches" after the cows, electric fence between them but shared the same water trough, i had a 600kg char bullock kept from the summer before for teasing, big soft docile lump he was and she leaned over the wire at the trough and sunk her teeth into him....he went down the field and thought about it... back up again.. lined her up, put his head below on the ground and waited for her to try the teeth again and up he came with the head and levelled her.... i thought he broke every tooth in her head, i had to catch her and see was she damaged.. she was seeing stars!!:D an eye for an eye i suppose

Fair deuce to him, he enjoyed that one

Bodacious

just do it wrote: »

Fair deuce to him, he enjoyed that one

it was a classic of "revenge is a dish best served cold!" he sloped up to her again and she was half nipping at young calves and he just left the head in position and when she swooped on him he was ready..to say the least:D