Need help, full time or part time job

Nicolez

Need help
Hi,

I have few questions, regarding my sister. My sister is German, but her husband is non EU national. He is married with her for about 6 years. They are living in Germany and they have two kids. They are willing to move to Ireland very soon. My sister would like to work here as full time. As far my information, Her husband is not allowed to work until his wife is working here for more than 3 months.
My question:
1. If they move here, and my sister can not find any full-time job, is there any possibility to be entitled to get social welfare?
2. How will be there situation if my sister find part time job?
3. What will be there situation if my sister decide to continue her studies ?

I will be thankful for your advice,

Nicole

Nicolez

Hi any advice please?.. Much appreciated

tatli_lokma

TBH I think you would be better to speak to the actual authorities dealing with each issue, rather than taking the advice of strangers on a forum. As an EU citizen I believe your sister would be entitled to some benefits if she cannot find work, but again I think you need to check this out properly as each cirumstance is different.

Contact citizens information for a start.

http://www.citizensinformation.ie/en/moving_country/moving_to_ireland/

and INIS with regard to the work permit for your brother in law (I have never heard of the 3 mth ban on working, I think you may have this confused with him getting a stamp4 permit. I could be wrong, but I think this may be confusion on your part? Provided he is granted permission to remain based on his marriage to an EU national, he does not need a work permit see below).

Work permit not necessary
If you are a non-EEA national you do not need a work permit if:

•You have permission to remain as the spouse, civil partner or dependant of an Irish or EEA national
•You are a Swiss national
•You have been granted refugee status - whether through the normal process or as a programme refugee
•You have been granted temporary leave to remain on humanitarian grounds, having been in the asylum process
•You have been granted leave to remain as the parent of an Irish citizen
•You have specific immigration permission to live and work in Ireland - see 'Renewal of work permits' above
•You have business permission to set up a business in Ireland
•You are a registered student - see below
•You hold a work authorisation or working visa

contact INIS via their website

http://www.inis.gov.ie/

and social welfare for information on benefits
http://www.welfare.ie/en/Pages/home.aspx

just a word of advice, probably your bro-in-law's permission will be based upon the couple being able to support themselves without assistance from SW. So even if your sister would be entitled to SW there will be a waiting period, and by claiming she may prevent her husband from being granted permission to remain. It would be more wise for them to have enough savings to cover a period of about 6 months rather than rely upon SW payments.

Finally, and sorry for stating the obvious, but why in gods name would a German move to Ireland in this climate?? Jobs are hard to come by unless you have very sought after skills. Unless she is a skilled worker in a sector still employing (such as IT developer) then she would be totally mad to move here, given the cost of living. If she wanted a decent standard of living she won't manage it on SW benefits.

Nicolez

Many thanks for your advice. Yes my sister is in IT field, and she is actually fed up with the climate in germany... She wants to come out from such a hectic life over there

boomshakalaka

Being a EU-national living in Ireland I can tell you that it is VERY hard to get unemployment benefits without;
having been in Ireland for a long time
Having worked in Ireland for a while

This because they test your ' Habitual Residency ' to see if you are planning to contribute to the country.

I don't think this is the best time to move to Ireland

Marcin_diy

Your sister needs to work full two years before she can avail any social benefits. exception is child benefit, but not sure if it will be given if she never worked or lived here before.

boomshakalaka

Marcin_diy wrote: »

Your sister needs to work full two years before she can avail any social benefits. exception is child benefit, but not sure if it will be given if she never worked or lived here before.

TWO YEARS jeez didn't know it was that long! Have you got a source for that? And is that two years in a row or overall?

tatli_lokma

Isn't that the standard contribution, 2 years? as in, in order to get unemployment benefit you have to have 2 years worth of contributions paid up. Anything less than that and you have no entitlement to benefit, and can only apply for allowances which are means tested. That goes for everyone, Irish, EU, Non-eu, everyone.

And its 104 weeks contributions since you first started work (so overall, not 2 years in a row) BUT you must also have in addition to that 39weeks contributions in the relevant tax year (or 26 in the current year and 26 in the immeditiately previous year). There are a few other ways of calculating contributions for people who don't meet the 104 weeks and 39 weeks minimum, but those are the main ones.

boomshakalaka

Thanks Ted, wasn't going to claim anyway, would really rather be working. Good to know though.

bootybouncer

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