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  • 02-02-2013 10:22pm
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    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 11


    http://youtu.be/X-RPWhigpQg

    http://youtu.be/WlLN_Jcg1pc

    http://youtu.be/cs9UTA-fqLo

    http://youtu.be/OO66afmxWKA

    http://youtu.be/PIeGeE0uDJg A MUST SEE

    i use to laugh at people who talked about ufo,s until i seen this
    not anymore so many nato generals and american top army generals
    and nasa astronauts why would they lie these men are the best of
    the best the world has to offer yet people are told tell are nuts by
    pencil pushers like like former boy band member and BBC prof brian cox
    and comedian dara O briain yes the internet is full of **** 90% of things
    about ufo.s are crap many of these hoax people who carrie it out admit
    after it dies down that the were well paid for doing it why to make
    people to get so tired of ufo reports then just say their all fake.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 8,237 ✭✭✭Sonics2k


    I... Wait, what.


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 3,643 Mod ✭✭✭✭Beeker


    kepler22 wrote: »
    http://youtu.be/X-RPWhigpQg

    http://youtu.be/WlLN_Jcg1pc

    http://youtu.be/cs9UTA-fqLo

    http://youtu.be/OO66afmxWKA

    http://youtu.be/PIeGeE0uDJg A MUST SEE

    i use to laugh at people who talked about ufo,s until i seen this
    not anymore so many nato generals and american top army generals
    and nasa astronauts why would they lie these men are the best of
    the best the world has to offer yet people are told tell are nuts by
    pencil pushers like like former boy band member and BBC prof brian cox
    and comedian dara O briain yes the internet is full of **** 90% of things
    about ufo.s are crap many of these hoax people who carrie it out admit
    after it dies down that the were well paid for doing it why to make
    people to get so tired of ufo reports then just say their all fake.
    What you are looking at are out of focus particles of dust floating in front of the camera lens. Some of the others are objects floating around inside the spacecraft and reflecting of the window the camera is pointing out.
    As for why would astronauts and generals lie because they are not, they are simply mistaken like anyone else. They may be astronauts, pilots etc but they are also human and are fooled just as easily as you or me.

    I, like Carl Sagan would love to think they we are visited every second Tuesday by Aliens, but with the complete lack of any proof I have to accept that we are not. Despite years of claims of sightings and landings not one single piece of compelling evidence has ever been found. No documented photo or video has ever withstood critical scrutiny. No positive sightings are ever reported by people who watch the skies for a living.......Astronomers!
    Extraordinary claims require extraordinary proof.


  • Registered Users Posts: 282 ✭✭maguffin


    Beeker wrote: »
    What you are looking at are out of focus particles of dust floating in front of the camera lens. Some of the others are objects floating around inside the spacecraft and reflecting of the window the camera is pointing out.

    Do you have proof of this?
    As for why would astronauts and generals lie because they are not, they are simply mistaken like anyone else. They may be astronauts, pilots etc but they are also human and are fooled just as easily as you or me.

    While this may be true of those who have little experience/training...it is very doubtful that so many highly qualified scientists/engineers/army personnel would be foolish enough to put their reputations on the line by admitting these observtions if they didn't think there was some credence in it.
    I, like Carl Sagan would love to think they we are visited every second Tuesday by Aliens, but with the complete lack of any proof I have to accept that we are not. Despite years of claims of sightings and landings not one single piece of compelling evidence has ever been found. No documented photo or video has ever withstood critical scrutiny. No positive sightings are ever reported by people who watch the skies for a living.......Astronomers!
    Extraordinary claims require extraordinary proof.

    At the 1969 AAAS UFO debate organized by Carl Sagan, Dr. Franklin Roach delivered a paper on "Astronomers' Views on UFOs." He focuses on the lack of publicized UFO reports from major astronomical research programs that constantly monitor vast swaths of the sky. He offered a quote from the famous astronomer Gerard Kuiper:
    "I should correct a statement that has been made that scientists have shied away from UFO reports for fear of ridicule ... A scientist chooses his field of inquiry because he believes it holds real promise. If later his choice proves wrong, he will feel very badly and try to sharpen his criteria before he sets out again. Thus, if society finds that most scientists have not been attracted to the UFO problem, the explanation must be that they have not been impressed with the UFO reports."
    As the comments from the above surveys show, Kuiper was idealizing the behavior of younger scientists. Lacking his prestige and tenure, they were less willing to suffer mockery from their peers.
    The final data point comes from the Soviet Union. "Observations of Anomalous Atmospheric Phenomena in the USSR: Statistical Analysis" is a report by L.M. Gindilis, D.A. Men'Kov, and I.G. Petrovkaya. It was published by the Soviet Academy of Sciences in 1979 and translated into English by NASA as Technical Memorandum no. 75665 in 1980 and later distributed by CUFOS. It is a statistical analysis of over 200 raw UFO reports in the Soviet Union. Three quarters of the reports come from their massive wave of UFO reports in 1967.
    Section 3, "Observers and Witnesses of Observations," contains some very interesting data. They note that "contrary to the widespread fallacy, there is a highly significant percentage of astronomers among the observers." By comparing the number of UFO observers from a given occupation with census data, the authors arrive at a "Activity Coefficient." A higher coefficient indicates a group is reporting more UFOs than expected by population.
    At the time, approximately .002% of Soviets over the age of nine were astronomers. Yet they accounted for 10 reports in the Soviet dataset. This yields an activity coefficient of 7500 [Note: NASA's translation reads 7000]. Undergraduates had a coefficient of 3, maintenance workers .9 and Students .02. The Soviet numbers are clear: astronomers report UFOs at astronomical rates.

    2012-09-26-1979sovietoriginalp10astronomerscircled.jpg

    Astronomers see UFOs. In the United States, astronomers who observe UFOs on their instruments fear ridicule from other scientists and the press. Despite the aura of illegitimacy around UFOs, the data indicates that astronomers even report UFOs at noticeably greater rates than laypeople.

    Better and more recently survey data is clearly desirable. Hynek's survey was informal, Sturrock's is 35 years old, and the Soviet analysis is done on unvetted reports. Only Sturrock's paper was subject to peer-review. But as we have seen, it takes considerable courage for a scientist to brave "career suicide" and study UFOs despite proclamations that the subject is off-limits.
    There is a lot of hard work that needs to be done if science hopes to understand the UFO phenomenon. It would be particularly useful to adopt the Soviet activity coefficient and apply it to other databases.


  • Registered Users Posts: 16,686 ✭✭✭✭Zubeneschamali


    kepler22 wrote: »
    i use to laugh at people who talked about ufo,s

    Anyone who has looked at the night sky for more than a couple of minutes has seen an unidentified flying object.

    The people I laugh at are the folks who think UFOs are space aliens, and NASA is covering it up.


  • Registered Users Posts: 959 ✭✭✭ZeRoY


    Anyone who has looked at the night sky for more than a couple of minutes has seen an unidentified flying object.

    The people I laugh at are the folks who think UFOs are space aliens, and NASA is covering it up.

    ^^ This, pretty much :cool:


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