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Soil Test results Fertilizer applications

  • 01-02-2013 12:34pm
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,168 ✭✭✭


    Any using AgriNet program for above
    Soil Test results Fertilizer applications


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,081 ✭✭✭td5man


    milkprofit wrote: »
    Any using AgriNet program for above
    Soil Test results Fertilizer applications
    No but i intend to,whats involved in getting started or am i too late as usual.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 908 ✭✭✭funny man


    yea i use it here. find it a good place to keep records in the one spot, makes life handier when you need to find them.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,168 ✭✭✭milkprofit


    Do u include slurrey
    Any tips to reduce time on imputing soil results or applications


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,920 ✭✭✭freedominacup


    milkprofit wrote: »
    Do u include slurrey
    Any tips to reduce time on imputing soil results or applications

    I'm not using it but just sending sample this week and it struck me that there must be an app for that. Surely we should be able to get results back on an e-mail and if you have your paddocks identified on agrinet and the samples identified the same way it should be as simple as downloading a milk recording.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 908 ✭✭✭funny man


    milkprofit wrote: »
    Do u include slurrey
    Any tips to reduce time on imputing soil results or applications

    i put all in manually, dosn't take that long. just do it on a regular basis.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 451 ✭✭mikeoh


    What are the normal ranges for P +K.......just got results back P-1.63. K-55 ... But it just says very low and low respectively........what's the best to correct them ,was thinkn 2 bags of 10.10.20 now and a bag of 0.7.30 at the end of the year??? The report recommends p-40 kg/h. K-150kg/h


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 908 ✭✭✭funny man


    it's not that easy advising on nutrient management without knowing the farm, the stocking rate and what you expect as a return on investment. i dont say this lightly but outside dairy and tilage farming the only i can see to build up your levels of P&K from a status of 1 is pig/poultry slurry. 27 units of P wouldn't be enough for maintence let alone building it up. talk to an advisor who knows your farm draw up a fertilizer plan for the farm, get the PH right first (above 6.3).


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,048 ✭✭✭Injuryprone


    mikeoh wrote: »
    What are the normal ranges for P +K.......just got results back P-1.63. K-55 ... But it just says very low and low respectively........what's the best to correct them ,was thinkn 2 bags of 10.10.20 now and a bag of 0.7.30 at the end of the year??? The report recommends p-40 kg/h. K-150kg/h
    To answer your first question:
    P -- index 1: 0-3, index 2: 3-5, index 3: 5-8, index 4: 8+
    K -- index 1: 0-50, index 2: 50-100, index 3: 100-150, index 4: 150+
    afaik K deficiencies can be fixed fairly quickly but it can take a long time to get the P back up.
    I'd be inclined to agree with fm on your second question. Get an advisor to make out a fertilizer plan and get the lime right first


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 451 ✭✭mikeoh


    With a stocking rate of 0.5/acre its had to justify pumping too much money into fertilizer .....pig sh@# it is so!!!!!...........on a serious note I agree with ye I'll meet up with teagasc next week , might as well spend money on the right stuff than the wrong stuff..........(.ps. I'm ok for lime)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,949 ✭✭✭delaval


    Teagasc have a free APP to keep track of your fert use. Input your N,P&k limits then as you spread input what you've spread and it tracks it for you. Saves you going over your limit.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 891 ✭✭✭grange mac


    Forgetting all rules/regulations. In an equal world to build up P & K, from a soil index of 1. Do any of ye know which is better 0 7 30 or 10 10 20. Please dont get technical I just want to know which will deliver most grass.

    Am thinking the 101020,as it has 10 v 7 units in 0730.

    Have new reseeed silage field, lime and ph are there adequate.

    Was planning 3 bags acre as soil v.defficent


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,949 ✭✭✭delaval


    Timely question, just worked out our fert plan for year our P1 will be getting 1 bag 18-6-12 followed by 2x 10-10-20 and then urea/can+s for subsequent grazings + slurry. This is based on staying within limits. P2's will get 1x3 bags of cut sward followed by urea/can+s + slurry. P3's 1xbag 24-2.5-10 and 1xbag 20-0-15 +slurry. P4's 3x1x bag 20-0-15 no slurry urea/can+s. That's staying legal!!!!!!!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,881 ✭✭✭mf240


    What fert would be required for land that gets two cuts silage and a light grazing to maintain P and K

    It's a long draw for slurry


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 871 ✭✭✭severeoversteer


    does anyone know how to gauge the requirement given the mg per litre results in a soil test
    sample result = p = 3.8mg/l k = 61mg/l
    say to raise the k to 100-150 mg/l how many units or kg of potassium(k) are needed


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,949 ✭✭✭delaval


    mf240 wrote: »
    What fert would be required for land that gets two cuts silage and a light grazing to maintain P and K

    It's a long draw for slurry
    You might go to Irish Grassland Ass. site, Stan Lalor gave a brillliant paper at this years conference paper should be there. I think the answer you need is there.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 908 ✭✭✭funny man


    does anyone know how to gauge the requirement given the mg per litre results in a soil test
    sample result = p = 3.8mg/l k = 61mg/l
    say to raise the k to 100-150 mg/l how many units or kg of potassium(k) are needed

    who done your tests, depends on yearly requirements silage/grazing
    Forgetting all rules/regulations. In an equal world to build up P & K, from a soil index of 1. Do any of ye know which is better 0 7 30 or 10 10 20. Please dont get technical I just want to know which will deliver most grass.

    Am thinking the 101020,as it has 10 v 7 units in 0730.

    Have new reseeed silage field, lime and ph are there adequate.

    Was planning 3 bags acre as soil v.defficent

    stocking rate
    silage/grazing
    slurry available


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 891 ✭✭✭grange mac


    funny man wrote: »

    who done your tests, depends on yearly requirements silage/grazing



    stocking rate* .5 per ha/
    silage/grazing silage*...to be sold so prob wont graze?
    slurry available*none

    Most of farm ok, will get lime but main silage field v.low p&k has been neglected but after 22t lime so ph is ok 5.8...good enough for me.

    advice appreciated!!


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