9th February Protests Waterford

Am Chile

IM surprised no one has posted this yet, a week on saturday on the 9th of february there is set to be national anti austerity protests over the bank debt, property tax etc,trade unions,cahwt and other groups will be taking part, protests are set to take to place in many different towns that saturday including waterford, how many on the waterford forum plan to take part in the waterford protest on the 9th february ?

Adyx

Let me know when there's a protest against all the protests.

mccarthy37

Am Chile wrote: »

IM surprised no one has posted this yet, a week on saturday on the 9th of february there is set to be national anti austerity protests over the bank debt, property tax etc,trade unions,cahwt and other groups will be taking part, protests are set to take to place in many different towns that saturday including waterford, how many on the waterford forum plan to take part in the waterford protest on the 9th february ?

I hope the people of Waterford show their support.

CardBordWindow

Time and location would be handy. Unless it's an anywhere, any time kinda protest?

notfromhere

think its 1.30 in Glen

Ethan Edwards

Who's organizing these protests? If the trade unions, Eirigi, Sinn Finn or the Socialist Workers Party are involved and will be spewing their ****e at any stage I'll stay at home thanks.

wmpdd3

No, it will be run by Fianna Fail!

Of course it will be run one of the above from the left, who else do you expect to be against the current government's austerity policy's.

I will be there.

notfromhere

run by ictu

Ethan Edwards

wmpdd3 wrote: »

No, it will be run by Fianna Fail!

Of course it will be run one of the above from the left, who else do you expect to be against the current government's austerity policy's.

I will be there.

Anyone else who isn't in it for themselves or thinks that we can sell magic beans to fix the economy or isn't a professional protester. Non of the groups I mentioned were involved in the Hospital protests and they were both well attended.

I'm calling it now less then 5000 at this protest.

invalid

For more info go here: http://www.ictu.ie/jobsnotdebt/

Partizan

Ethan Edwards wrote: »

Who's organizing these protests? If the trade unions, Eirigi, Sinn Finn or the Socialist Workers Party are involved and will be spewing their ****e at any stage I'll stay at home thanks.

If you haven't anything constructive to say or contribute in any meaningful way, then please STFU.

notfromhere

Ethan Edwards wrote: »

Anyone else who isn't in it for themselves or thinks that we can sell magic beans to fix the economy or isn't a professional protester. Non of the groups I mentioned were involved in the Hospital protests and they were both well attended.

I'm calling it now less then 5000 at this protest.

think u would be better of staying at home

Ethan Edwards

Partizan wrote: »

If you haven't anything constructive to say or contribute in any meaningful way, then please STFU.

Sorry Mr Mod I'll keep my opinions to myself...... Oh wait you aren't a mod so I'll post whatever I feel like so long as its in line with the charter. The OP asked who was going and I pointed out that I wouldn't be. I'm free to choose not to attend a protest organised by Trade Unions who are so far removed from the original purpose of Trade Unions its unreal. The leaders of Ireland's first trade unions must be spinning in their graves to see the likes of David Begg (head of the ITCU) pulling in over €100,000 a year.

http://www.independent.ie/national-news/big-salaries-and-pensions-of-union-bosses-uncovered-3237083.html

Sully

See? The protest hasn't even happened and ye are all taking chunks out of each other! Now imagine yourselves sitting around the cabinet table? Twould be awful I tell ya, awful!!

On a serious note, please keep calm. Problem with a poster - hit the report button and one of the mods will look into it. Thanks.

SubBusted

Leave protesting to the Protestants!

Am Chile

Ethan Edwards wrote: »

Who's organizing these protests? If the trade unions, Eirigi, Sinn Finn or the Socialist Workers Party are involved and will be spewing their ****e at any stage I'll stay at home thanks.

The upcoming protest is mainly organised by ICTU, Cahwt will be there and involved too up to a certain point, I can,t say nor confirm if any reps from those political parties will speaking or not that day,someone from ICTU and Cahwt will speaking on the platform that day though.

wellboytoo

Look at the dirt of the dog....

Smiley Burnett

what solutions will be put forward by those organising this protest??? I want to see the deficit bridged by cutting spending, rather than increasing taxes??

will this point of view be catered for?? or will it be just a load of populist slogans like "they say cutback. we say fightback"?? Why dont these protestors just be honest enough to carry placards that say "Increase taxation and keep spending our hard-earned taxes on those who are more than likely going to vote for lefties..."

Partizan

Ethan Edwards wrote: »

Sorry Mr Mod I'll keep my opinions to myself...... Oh wait you aren't a mod so I'll post whatever I feel like so long as its in line with the charter. The OP asked who was going and I pointed out that I wouldn't be. I'm free to choose not to attend a protest organised by Trade Unions who are so far removed from the original purpose of Trade Unions its unreal. The leaders of Ireland's first trade unions must be spinning in their graves to see the likes of David Begg (head of the ITCU) pulling in over €100,000 a year.

http://www.independent.ie/national-news/big-salaries-and-pensions-of-union-bosses-uncovered-3237083.html

I am no fan of the union leadership but you are simply engaging in a bit of mindless bashing and using that as a convenient excuse to bash those who are trying to make a change in our society.

Partizan

Smiley Burnett wrote: »

what solutions will be put forward by those organising this protest??? I want to see the deficit bridged by cutting spending, rather than increasing taxes??

will this point of view be catered for?? or will it be just a load of populist slogans like "they say cutback. we say fightback"?? Why dont these protestors just be honest enough to carry placards that say "Increase taxation and keep spending our hard-earned taxes on those who are more than likely going to vote for lefties..."

Here's one solution, its a start. Stop paying billions to unguaranteed and faceless bondholders.

Finnbar01

Partizan wrote: »

Here's one solution, its a start. Stop paying billions to unguaranteed and faceless bondholders.

Yes and if we did that and stopped paying the bondholders, you do realise we would also have to bring in anywhere around €10 billion in cuts and tax increases overnight?

You see, we have a problem with banking debt but even if that disappeared tomorrow, we still have a problem with at least a €10 billion budget deficit.

CuriousG

Have a protest against debt and tax...... And at the same time spend thousands on advertising. How 'working class'.

http://www.bravooutdoor.ie/images/stories/bravo_rate_card_2012.pdf

Smiley Burnett

Finnbar01 wrote: »

Yes and if we did that and stopped paying the bondholders, you do realise we would also have to bring in anywhere around €10 billion in cuts and tax increases overnight?

You see, we have a problem with banking debt but even if that disappeared tomorrow, we still have a problem with at least a €10 billion budget deficit.

You've got it in one!!!

Bards

Finnbar01 wrote: »

Yes and if we did that and stopped paying the bondholders, you do realise we would also have to bring in anywhere around €10 billion in cuts and tax increases overnight?

You see, we have a problem with banking debt but even if that disappeared tomorrow, we still have a problem with at least a €10 billion budget deficit.

Nope. Lets not forget the govt takes in approx €34,000,000,000 in tax each year. If they cant run a country of 4.5m people with that, then they can go jump and let someone in who can run it successfully


The solution is not to borrow even more money which leads to higher debt and higher interest repayments, thus requiring ever increasing revenues just to stand still

Finnbar01

Bards wrote: »

Nope. Lets not forget the govt takes in approx €34,000,000,000 in tax each year. If they cant run a country of 4.5m people with that, then they can go jump and let someone in who can run it successfully

The solution is not to borrow even more money which leads to higher debt and higher interest repayments, thus requiring ever increasing revenues just to stand still

So you are suggesting that we default on the bondholders and live within our means (€34 Billion)?

Bards

Finnbar01 wrote: »

So you are suggesting that we default on the bondholders and live within our means (€34 Billion)?

Err yes, the bondholders are not the responsibility of joe the taxpayer, they took a gamble and lost, simple as.

Finnbar01

Bards wrote: »

Err yes, the bondholders are not the responsibility of joe the taxpayer, they took a gamble and lost, simple as.

I agree with you.

A lot of people can't seperate out the bondholders and our deficit though. They think if we just stopped paying the bondholders, everything would be honky dory.

Finnbar01

Well how did this go?

Any pics?

mike65

More people went that the Garda said, fewer people went than the organisers said