Is Canada the new Australia?

zweton

JustAddWater

Sure
Yeah
Whatever
Why not?

Anyway.....

Sinfonia

No, it's Canada.

3ndahalfof6

I am sure canada is older.

Aint Eazy Being Cheezy

Yes. Yes it is.

castletownman

Why does everything have to be the "new" something else?

lpool2k05

As in job market??? or its full of aussies?? or............

Yeah it is.

Ignorant bollixes swamping the IEC cos it's an easy visa, I'M NOT PAID TILL FRIDAY AND BECAUSE OF YOU LAZY VINCENT BROWNE BELIEVING GLASS EMPTY EASY VISA WANTING BASTARDS THEY'LL BE ALL F*CKING GONE!!!!

F*CK YOU ALLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

My name is URL

For absolute idiots that see countries as brands it probably is, yes.

It'll never compete with New Ireland though... - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Ireland_%28island%29

Ranicand

Well they share one thing in common.


They are bolt thousands of miles away from the other.:D

jjbrien

I did 2 years there and would never go back its a poor mans USA. Also if you think Ireland is expensive Canada is even more expensive. My car insurance in Ireland is 300 euro a year in Canada they all quoted me $6800 for the cheapest insurance im 32 not a starter driver. Also they treat immigrants like dogs. If you have no Canadian work experience then you have no experience, no rights either in Canada

3ndahalfof6

Ranicand wrote: »

Well they share one thing in common.


They are bolt thousands of miles away from the other.:D

wat usain.

3ndahalfof6

jjbrien wrote: »

I did 2 years there and would never go back its a poor mans USA. Also if you think Ireland is expensive Canada is even more expensive. My car insurance in Ireland is 300 euro a year in Canada they all quoted me $6800 for the cheapest insurance im 32 not a starter driver. Also they treat immigrants like dogs. If you have no Canadian work experience then you have no experience, no rights either in Canada

sounds like they got their shiit down, go canada, I would nearly move there just because of the above reasons.

My name is URL

jjbrien wrote: »

I did 2 years there and would never go back its a poor mans USA. Also if you think Ireland is expensive Canada is even more expensive. My car insurance in Ireland is 300 euro a year in Canada they all quoted me $6800 for the cheapest insurance im 32 not a starter driver. Also they treat immigrants like dogs. If you have no Canadian work experience then you have no experience, no rights either in Canada

Same as most other places tbh. Unless you have experience there or someone to vouch for you considerably; you can't just expect to walk straight into a new life.

A lot of stuff is more expensive in the US & Canada, but there are also more ways in which to save money.

Boombastic

I think you're holding the map upside, that's all

Ranicand

3ndahalfof6 wrote: »

wat usain.

Look at the question is butter the new jam?

jjbrien

My name is URL wrote: »

Same as most other places tbh. Unless you have experience there or someone to vouch for you considerably; you can't just expect to walk straight into a new life.

A lot of stuff is more expensive in the US & Canada, but there are also more ways in which to save money.

Funny thing is I have a degree in IT and worked for Symantec (Norton) here in Ireland also worked for Microsoft too here. I got lucky and got into IBM over there but I seen a lot of people fall though the cracks.

Food there is terrable a chicken costed $10 to $20 the lower price would be a sale price :eek:

Canada is heading the same way Ireland went theres a massive property bubble there now and its just waiting to pop

3ndahalfof6

Ranicand wrote: »

Look at the question is butter the new jam?

if live stock is eatin nothing but berries, sure why not, that is all.

Praetorian Saighdiuir

I'm glad you asked.

No

spagboll

Canada doesn't have a booze culture like Oz and Ireland

Canadians are very nice people

Unskilled workers can make decent enough money in Oz but don't do too well in Canada

The cost of living in Canada is very high, nights out can be very expensive

Canadians like Irish people in general, Australians don't (I wouldn't take it personally)

These are the obvious differences from my experience

zweton

jjbrien wrote: »

Funny thing is I have a degree in IT and worked for Symantec (Norton) here in Ireland also worked for Microsoft too here. I got lucky and got into IBM over there but I seen a lot of people fall though the cracks.

Food there is terrable a chicken costed $10 to $20 the lower price would be a sale price :eek:

Canada is heading the same way Ireland went theres a massive property bubble there now and its just waiting to pop

Fell through the cracks, how?

bb1234567

spagboll wrote: »

Canada doesn't have a booze culture like Oz and Ireland

Canadians are very nice people

Unskilled workers can make decent enough money in Oz but don't do too well in Canada

The cost of living in Canada is very high, nights out can be very expensive

Canadians like Irish people in general, Australians don't (I wouldn't take it personally)

These are the obvious differences from my experience

I agree completely! Aussies just really dont like us. I dont know why, but they just seem particularly unfriendly to the irish. Americans and canadians always make a big fuss over me being irish, how they love the country and the accent etc..austrlians are a very different story.

Xavi6

bb1234567 wrote: »

I agree completely! Aussies just really dont like us. I dont know why, but they just seem particularly unfriendly to the irish. Americans and canadians always make a big fuss over me being irish, how they love the country and the accent etc..austrlians are a very different story.

Well that's just wrong.

Why should they fawn over you like the Americans anyway? Are you that in need of adulation?

To answer the OP, hopefully Canada is the new Australia.

dan1895

Two different countries with different cultures, histories, people, languages, landscapes and climates. Just because a few Irish move there doesn't make it anything.

Where To

Canada is cold and snowy
Australia is hot and sunny

I'm surprised no one has already mentioned this.

bb1234567

Xavi6 wrote: »

Well that's just wrong.

Why should they fawn over you like the Americans anyway? Are you that in need of adulation?

To answer the OP, hopefully Canada is the new Australia.

No, no fawning. I just think Australians dont like us in general. Well a lot of them dont. I would just like if they treated us how theyd treat anyone from any nationality.

Sinfonia

jjbrien wrote: »

I did 2 years there and would never go back its a poor mans USA. Also if you think Ireland is expensive Canada is even more expensive. My car insurance in Ireland is 300 euro a year in Canada they all quoted me $6800 for the cheapest insurance im 32 not a starter driver. Also they treat immigrants like dogs. If you have no Canadian work experience then you have no experience, no rights either in Canada

Were you just in Toronto? I wouldn't casually cast a negative view of an entire country (especially one so large) if I've only lived in one of its cities.

dan1895

bb1234567 wrote: »

No, no fawning. I just think Australians dont like us in general. Well a lot of them dont. I would just like if they treated us how theyd treat anyone from any nationality.

In fairness a lot of Irish go over and take the piss over there, showing up to work constantly hungover if they bother to show up at all.

Xavi6

bb1234567 wrote: »

No, no fawning. I just think Australians dont like us in general. Well a lot of them dont. I would just like if they treated us how theyd treat anyone from any nationality.

Again, I'm calling bullshit having lived here and travelled the country for six years.

How do they treat us any different to other nations? Keep in mind that any prejudices regarding taking on WHV people/backpackers for jobs etc are self created.

mandrake04

Where To wrote: »

Canada is cold and snowy
Australia is hot and sunny

I'm surprised no one has already mentioned this.

eh summer in Canada can be hot as well.

And it does snow in Australia.

Where To

mandrake04 wrote: »

eh summer in Canada can be hot as well.

And it does snow in Australia.

Excuse me pet. When I am making throwaway generalisations about other countries I prefer not to be contradicted.

mandrake04

Where To wrote: »

Excuse me pet. When I am making throwaway generalisations about other countries I prefer not to be contradicted.

well why post rubbish then?

Summer in Canada can be warm and sunny and winter in Australia it snows every year. Fact.

Where To

mandrake04 wrote: »

well why post rubbish then?

Summer in Canada can be warm and sunny and winter in Australia it snows every year. Fact.

Well, if it's a fact how come Skippy never wears snowshoes and The Littlest Hobo never wears a sunhat?

Answer that one. Fact indeed.

swimming in a sea

if you don't have skills and are trying to choose between going to Canada or Australia, then choose Australia or you'll regret it.

Canada pays $10 dollars an hour as a laborer on the buildings, I think its $30 in Australia. My brother a qualified plumber did this for a while as he was having no luck getting plumbing work. Just pot luck he had an advert in the paper offering his services and a plumbing company stuck for a guy gave him a trial otherwise I'd say he would have packed it in.

Canada especially Toronto is a big Union town, if your not in union you don't get the work.

As others have said big property bubble in Canada & Australia as there was in Ireland, I think Canada won't be hurt as bad since they kept wages so low.

COYVB

swimming in a sea wrote: »

they kept wages so low.

I can assure you, the wages in Canada are anything but low for decent jobs

dttq

zweton wrote: »

You make a compelling argument.

Ruudi_Mentari

My brother has moved in with a Jewish family there, permanently looks like... when he marries her I'm gonna have Jewish AND Iranian relatives

Apparenty there's so many orientals they call it call Hongcouver

bnt

Canada is a huge country with major differences between the cites and regions. Vancouver is expensive to live and work in, with loads of immigrants from the Far East plus half of Hollywood. Toronto isn't quite as bad, and other parts less so.

I would be wary of living in a midwest Province because of the winters: I've been in Alberta in January, and it's pretty extreme. I took the Greyhound from Edmonton to Calgary when it was around -20C. The bus heater failed before we got all the way out of Edmonton, so we changed buses at a suburban depot, and that bus heater then failed within 20 miles. The driver took a vote, and we all elected to carry on to Calgary, in our coats, with no heater. :cool:

COYVB

bnt wrote: »

I took the Greyhound from Edmonton to Calgary when it was around -20C

You didn't do too badly then. That's moderately chilly by overall Canadian winter standards. It was -28 with the wind chill in TO last week, and -48 a couple of hours north

Chao

swimming in a sea wrote: »

if you don't have skills and are trying to choose between going to Canada or Australia, then choose Australia or you'll regret it.

Canada pays $10 dollars an hour as a laborer on the buildings, I think its $30 in Australia. My brother a qualified plumber did this for a while as he was having no luck getting plumbing work. Just pot luck he had an advert in the paper offering his services and a plumbing company stuck for a guy gave him a trial otherwise I'd say he would have packed it in.

Canada especially Toronto is a big Union town, if your not in union you don't get the work.

As others have said big property bubble in Canada & Australia as there was in Ireland, I think Canada won't be hurt as bad since they kept wages so low.

Truth is your brother just never tried hard enough (sorry!!) it's easy to get into a labourers union and it's over $30 hr plus benefits (dental, monthly massages etc)
Plumbers need do tests to prove there qualifications, then once they pass it can get into a union and make unreal money... Trust me!!

There the facts.

swimming in a sea

Chao wrote: »

Truth is your brother just never tried hard enough (sorry!!) it's easy to get into a labourers union and it's over $30 hr plus benefits (dental, monthly massages etc)
Plumbers need do tests to prove there qualifications, then once they pass it can get into a union and make unreal money... Trust me!!

There the facts.

I don't agree that he didn't try hard enough, but ya he is in the plumbers union now and doing government contracts earning $50-60 per hour,

Chao

swimming in a sea wrote: »

I don't agree that he didn't try hard enough, but ya he is in the plumbers union now and doing government contracts earning $50-60 per hour,

Yea I'm sure he wanted to get the test done and get into the plumbers union so didn't go for the labourers union but it's easily done and $30 plus an hour.

It's completely different from Australia I've lived in both. Australia is more made for backpackers and full of people messing about, Canada takes more effort.