Who has ever been convinced they were wrong about a CT

seannash

So id there anyone else who has done a complete 180 on something they were convinced was a conspiracy.

I have on 9/11.I used to believe it was a conspiracy but not anymore.

When I say a complete 180 I mean that you were a firm believer and now you think the complete opposite.
I'm not talking about being open to the possibility or something doesn't add up.Im talking about a complete turnaround

I suspect not many have

Torakx

Aliens would be one of mine anyway.
I used to feel that it was very likely they did visit in the past, due to Mayan stuff and Egyptian carvings etc etc.
But I dont believe that anymore.Although its possible, I have done a turn around on that one.

I used to believe in God quite religiously.Done a 180 on that aswell lol
But the God Ct isnt really considered a Ct.
More a neurosis/belief system to control masses of people.

There are some I have withdrawn from a little, but still unsure.
Like the moon landings.

9/11 every time i see some new info relating to it, I am again convinced it was setup, as the 7/7 bombings on the day of a 1000 man counter terrorist training routine for subway and bus bombings in that same area.

Are your suspicions accounting for shill Cters and anti CTers that we all know about?

Is this a sarcastic subtle way to insinuate most CTers are crazy and the proof is that they never change their mind?
Meaning they might not be right 100% of the time.
They also might not be wrong 100% of the time.
But im stating the obvious, as the thread topic is also quite obvious.

I would say the amount of people who change their minds is irrelevant, when you dont know who any of the posters are really.
Probably the same amount of CTers who change their mind is about equal to the anti CTers who change their mind.

Il post a picture of this arguement so we can all see how to proceed here.


Sorry if this seems condecending, but the topic appears to be provacative.

enno99

seannash wrote: »

So id there anyone else who has done a complete 180 on something they were convinced was a conspiracy.

I have on 9/11.I used to believe it was a conspiracy but not anymore.

When I say a complete 180 I mean that you were a firm believer and now you think the complete opposite.
I'm not talking about being open to the possibility or something doesn't add up.Im talking about a complete turnaround

I suspect not many have

So out of interest where did you question the 911 official version ?

Yourself kingMob and johnny7 have all claimed this
can anyone of you direct me to where you debated your suspicions in a forum
I would be really interested to see how forceful your arguments were and what changed your mind
Or is it the case of ye just had this revelation and like some born again religion decided to be come prolific posters on the side of the official story and show the rest of us the error of our ways ?

enno99

Torakx wrote: »

9/11 every time i see some new info relating to it, I am again convinced it was setup, as the 7/7 bombings on the day of a 1000 man counter terrorist training routine for subway and bus bombings in that same area.

I cant say I believe any CT as I cant prove any of them therefore I will always post something on the side of the CT Because I feel that if my suspicion is that weak that someone will easy dissuade me from it

The official stories of 911 7/7 are a crock of sh!t as far as im concerned and nobody has given me cause to think otherwise. Sure you will be accused of poking holes in them to further your theory
But the simple fact of the matter is if you can poke these holes its really not that solid of an explanation to begin with is it ?

But as I said I cant prove anything so arguing the toss over it is a waste of time in most cases but can be an interesting discussion sometimes

Ancient Aliens/pre flood civilizations and lost knowledge now there is one that I really like reading about and watching videos ect
Im convinced There are some things being hidden are they as dramatic as proof of aliens who knows I think all the religions are culprits in this to protect their own dogma

How come everything they find and cant explain has to be a temple it couldent be a whore house or a gambling joint

http://www.gobeklitepe.info/who_how_why.html

Take a few days off from hunting and gathering to build a massive temple after you complete it bury it dont make sense

The destruction of ancient sites and artifacts and records is nothing short of a fu*king disgrace I wonder are they being controlled by someone to cover their tracks after they have looted all the important stuff

Torakx

Thanks, i found a documentary on Gobeklitepe.Will have a look tomorrow..I mean today lol

seannash

enno99 wrote: »

So out of interest where did you question the 911 official version ?

Yourself kingMob and johnny7 have all claimed this
can anyone of you direct me to where you debated your suspicions in a forum
I would be really interested to see how forceful your arguments were and what changed your mind
Or is it the case of ye just had this revelation and like some born again religion decided to be come prolific posters on the side of the official story and show the rest of us the error of our ways ?

Not on this site.
I watched loose change and bought into it.
Had a few real world discussions with a few people who advised me to check out the videos that debunk it.so I did.
Case closed for me

asherbassad

seannash wrote: »

Not on this site.
I watched loose change and bought into it.
Had a few real world discussions with a few people who advised me to check out the videos that debunk it.so I did.
Case closed for me

You believe a steel jet can fly into a building and incinerate? I do.

You believe everyone inside that steel jet can be oblitered in an exploding ball of flames reaching metal-melting temperatures? I do, too.

You believe that all the luggage and clothing and bodies in that plane could be incinerated? Yeah, seems pretty plausible.

You believe a paper passport that was in the jacket pocket of one of the people who were instantly incinerated survived that inferno and fluttered down earthwards to be found in the rubble? I sure as FCUK don't!

Myrddin

I used to believe in my [much] younger days the US really was all about democracy, freedom & the other things it professes to stand for.

I've also lost any faith in politicians & now am a firm believer in the "it doesn't matter who you vote for, the Government always gets in" camp.

shedweller

Aliens, ufos, area 51. Wasn't convinced by anyone as such. I just came to the conclusion that its a load of nonsense.

Myrddin

shedweller wrote: »

ufos, area 51

Same, in later years I'm more or less settled on the fact that the vast majority of UFO's are perfectly explainable. The ones that arn't, are likely prototype/black budget stuff that just so happens to be developed & flown from Area 51 like the U2, F117 & SR71

asherbassad

Used to believe that the Berlin Wall was erected to prevent East German citizens escaping to the West, despite the fact that for nearly 2 decades prior to the wall being built some 100,000's crossed into West Berlin each morning to work and returned in the evening and that after the wall went up most applications to move from East Berlin to the West were approved.

The real reason the Wall went up was to prevent the ease with which Western saboteurs would enter East Berlin/Germany and disrupt town meetings with stink bombs (I kid you not), tamper with rail lines, electrical installations, block gutters, and countless other acts of vandalism to embarrass and discredit the Eastern regime in particular and Communism in general.

Brown Bomber

seannash wrote: »

Not on this site.
I watched loose change and bought into it.
Had a few real world discussions with a few people who advised me to check out the videos that debunk it.so I did.
Case closed for me

Wouldn't it be smart it Alex Jones and friends were actually working for the bad guys and and made a film that mixed up falsehoods, truth and lies all together and packaged it all up nicely but with the intention of it being debunked?

zef

I'm really not sure about Alex Jones.
His product endorsement/ selling has made me suspicious.

Torakx

Just goes to show,mainstream science isnt everything.
This guy cuts through the bullsh1t and tells it like it is regarding the real science.
Enough to make me reconsider what I had thought about some aspects of nature.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-WvD1K2JF2I

Sixtus

asherbassad wrote: »

You believe a steel jet can fly into a building and incinerate? I do.

You believe everyone inside that steel jet can be oblitered in an exploding ball of flames reaching metal-melting temperatures? I do, too.

You believe that all the luggage and clothing and bodies in that plane could be incinerated? Yeah, seems pretty plausible.

You believe a paper passport that was in the jacket pocket of one of the people who were instantly incinerated survived that inferno and fluttered down earthwards to be found in the rubble? I sure as FCUK don't!

Yawn. It's been shown to you that personal effects from other passengers, seat cushions and even mail carried on the planes survived the impact ad nauseum.

Change the record or pick a new tune.

enno99

Torakx wrote: »

Thanks, i found a documentary on Gobeklitepe.Will have a look tomorrow..I mean today lol

Any chance you could post a link if you get time

I have found one its about 80 min but some of the interviews are in Turkish

http://www.putlocker.com/file/15A5967DCFEFB1C0#

Torakx

Torrentz search engine.
Mine had subs.
But I ate some fish that made me sleepy for some reason and I only made it half way haha.
But it was interesting enough.
I have one issue so far.
They say carbon dating decides the age of the stone monuments.

As far as I am aware, carbon dating informs us of the age of the rock and not when it was carved.
But perhaps they can get a rough guesss if the stone is very very old compared to something like the mayan stones.Im not sure.

enno99

Torakx wrote: »

Torrentz search engine.
Mine had subs.
But I ate some fish that made me sleepy for some reason and I only made it half way haha.
But it was interesting enough.
I have one issue so far.
They say carbon dating decides the age of the stone monuments.

As far as I am aware, carbon dating informs us of the age of the rock and not when it was carved.
But perhaps they can get a rough guesss if the stone is very very old compared to something like the mayan stones.Im not sure.

I think that they carbon date stuff they find while excavating to give the time period

I cant find any dispute about the time so you would have to think they (archeologists) are in agreement

AS for what it was built for ?

Ted Banning, a professor at the University of Toronto, has branded it ‘one of the world’s biggest garbage dumps,’ with piles of animal bones, tools and charcoal found there proving that it was an ancient home rather than a religious site.

When excavation started at Gobekli Tepe in southern Turkey in 1994, archaeologists were sure it was a temple and largely uninhabited.

Remarkably it was deliberately buried under thousands of tonnes of soil and only a small amount of the 20-acre area has been excavated since its discovery.

The incredible site was put up long before humans mastered language or skills like pottery or metal work, making it one of the true wonders of the world pre-dating any previously discovered religious site by 1,000 years

http://globalheritagefund.org/in_the_news/2011_news_archives/piles_of_ancient_rubbish_could_prove_incredible_temple_thats_6500_years_old

Torakx

Its certainly interesting, but I dont know what it might indicate regarding Ct's.
I am pretty sure the rock can be carbon dated to get its age.
And im pretty sure they cant tell the age difference between the carved sections and the rest of the rock.
Its literally just bits of the same rock removed and exposed.
So unless they can somehow tell the age difference between the "newly" exposed parts compared to the middle, then ive no idea how they know when this rock was gathered and carved.
Maybe I have it wrong, im open to correction on that.