Another angle on the Fiona Doyle case

Ranicand

The father did it and he is an evil monster.

Leaving that to one side what can we make of her mother and family?

This is the part I just do not understand.

Yes I understand people are like this but I can not offer any understanding.

In my opinion the family especially the mother were just as bad or worse then the father.

The other children may have been brainwashed but the mother why was she not charged with something?

DrumSteve

What would you charge her with?

It was a horrible case thankfully the original verdict was changed.

suicide_circus

DrumSteve wrote: »

What would you charge her with? .

Criminal neglect ?
Aiding and abetting?

Ranicand

DrumSteve wrote: »

What would you charge her with?

It was a horrible case thankfully the original verdict was changed.

Neglect? Aiding And Abetting?

I don't know much about the law but on a moral level she is guilty in my opinion.

fasttalkerchat

I think that in those cases there is a submissive partner who is controlled by the abuser the same way as in a violent relationship. I think that some allowances should be made but in a case like this there probably should be multiple prosecutions.

Madam_X

The mother did not rape her daughter regularly for 10 years, therefore she is not as bad as the father, and most certainly not worse ().

That doesn't mean she didn't behave reprehensibly though. I wouldn't see an issue with her being charged with neglect/enabling.

DrumSteve

Madam_X wrote: »

The mother did not rape her daughter regularly for 10 years, therefore she is not as bad as the father, and most certainly not worse ().

That doesn't mean she didn't behave reprehensibly though.

I think the main question is did she know it was happening and if so can it be proved?

If so then yes she should be charged though I doubt the family would want to go through the horror of it all again in court.

Ranicand

Madam_X wrote: »

The mother did not rape her daughter regularly for 10 years, therefore she is not as bad as the father, and most certainly not worse ().

That doesn't mean she didn't behave reprehensibly though.

She was still with the husband going into court.

He was guilty and had admitted it yet she still stands by him at the expense of her daughter.

I really just don't understand how she can reject any kind of decency and compassion and side with her evil husband.

suicide_circus

Ranicand wrote: »

She was still with the husband going into court.

He was guilty and had admitted it yet she still stands by him at the expense of her daughter.

I really just don't understand how she can reject any kind of decency and compassion and side with her evil husband.

Truly mind boggling
2 options really, either she is completely brainwashed and under his influence or she is an utter horror of a human being.

P_1

Well I'd imagine there might have been an element of the mother being terrified by the father and thus, not reporting it due to fear for her own safety.

My name is URL

suicide_circus wrote: »

Criminal neglect ?
Aiding and abetting?

Bit hard to achieve those things if the only witness doesn't want to bring charges.

Ranicand

Ranicand wrote: »

In my opinion the family especially the mother were just as bad or worse then the father.

How do you work that out? The father abused her so often that she said it was as common as having dinner. He was a prolific rapist.

The mother is no model citizen according to the victim, but I don't think she could be characterized as worse.

In the US they have a charge of reckless endangerment that they seem to use to cover everything from allowing harm to befall a child, or failure to use child car restraints. Maybe its time we had similar so callous onlookers like that woman's mother face consequences.

Ranicand

Candie wrote: »

The mother is no model citizen according to the victim, but I don't think she could be characterized as worse.

What I meant was the father was a total monster grated she could not be worse.

However the mother siding with him must have really hurt on top of everything else.

Pat Mustard

fasttalkerchat wrote: »

I think that in those cases there is a submissive partner who is controlled by the abuser the same way as in a violent relationship. I think that some allowances should be made but in a case like this there probably should be multiple prosecutions.

Irish Examiner article.

Her mother, according to Ms Doyle, knew about the abuse but instead of protecting her daughter beat her and, from the age of 8, called her a “whore”. Perversely, Ms Doyle was cast as the “other woman” in a dysfunctional and “evil marriage”.

If that newspaper article represents a correct report of what Fiona Doyle said, then I think that we can draw our own conclusions on the mother.