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Did people feel burned by the Wii and hence reluctant to buy the Wii U?

  • 30-01-2013 2:26pm
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    Before I start: :)

    * I'm being serious, not trolling.
    * Decided to put this in Games rather than the Nintendo forum in order to attract a wider spectrum of gamers

    So, is the question I pose in my title accurate or not?

    I ask it as I was reading this article and it's user comments: Eurogamer - Nintendo's Wii U sales struggle

    I bought a Wii shortly after lunch, having a 360 already. After the initial buzz of Wii Sport, Zelda, Super Paper Mario and Metroid Prime I lost interest in it. Now it only gets played every few months, mainly when there are a few of us together that want to play Wii Sports or Mario Kart.

    Back in the day I used to own an SNES and for me that's the best console of all time, amazing machine with amazing games.

    By just talking to a lot of fellow Wii owners I know as friends they all seem to agree that their Wiis are gathering dust. Now maybe that's because most of those people (myself included) are light to medium gamers, but our 360's/PCs/PS3s get far more use.

    After being underwhelmed by the Wii I have no inclination to buy the Wii. Luckily at the moment (touch wood) I have the disposal income to afford one but I just fear it would be a waste of money and end up lying idle. I'm focusing on picking up some of the year's 360 new releases and catching up on it's back catalogue at bargain prices. I probably will be tempted by the new Sony and Microsoft consoles.

    So has people's experience of the Wii affected the perception of the Wii U?


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  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 30,019 CMod ✭✭✭✭johnny_ultimate


    The Wii's catalogue of inventive, ambitious and all round excellent games will make me more not less inclined to buy a Wii U once the software catalogue has had a chance to grow.

    Plus, Bayonetta 2.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 52,406 CMod ✭✭✭✭Retr0gamer


    Seems they are making a mountain out of a molehill. The WiiU has sold an impressive amount in a short space of time and Nintendo are revising their sales down. They are expected to post a profit for this year which is a lot better than the loss they made last year.

    I'll definitely pick up a WiiU, I'm just broke right now. If anything the Wii's library of excellent and charming games has made me more interested in the WiiU. I find the typical Wii user isn't even aware of how many great games are on the system.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,640 ✭✭✭Pushtrak


    I've still got Wii games I mean to play, specifically Xenoblade Chronicles and The Last Story. The Wii hasn't had as many good games as I'd have liked, but I don't regret the purchase. The Wii U, well, Windwaker HD, a new Zelda and Bayonetta 2 are already going to be strong motivations to own a Wii U. There isn't a reason to own a Wii U now for me. I will own one though, at a time when it makes sense.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,349 ✭✭✭✭super_furry


    There's several things putting me off the Wii U. The price, the lack of must-have games, the lack of third party support, the prospect of new Microsoft and Sony consoles on the horrizon and Nintendo's horrible online record.


  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 23,282 Mod ✭✭✭✭Kiith


    When there are games for it that i want to play, i'll consider it. Xenoblade 2 would be one of those games.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,814 ✭✭✭TPD


    I got a wii shortly after launch, and to be honest the most use it got was playing the gamecube versions of mario kart and super smash brothers. I did also play No More Heroes, Okami, Twilight Princess, Mario Galaxy 1 and 2, and Paper Mario. It's probably more games than I've played on previous consoles looking back.

    I'll be in no rush to buy a Wii U though. The wii was a christmas gift from the parents - now that I'm earning, I game on PC. Having said that, of the major consoles, Nintendo would usually be my first pick - for their first party games. But I'm content to wait a few years until the library pads out.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,324 ✭✭✭chrislad


    I'll probably pick up up in a year or so once some unique games come out and more features are added (like the virtual console on the gamepad for example) - I have nothing against the WiiU - I just don't feel like I need to have one at the moment as most games currently on it are games that I could play on my Xbox albeit with a few tacked on (and probably unnecessary) features.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,559 ✭✭✭✭CastorTroy


    I like the Wii. As has been stated there are more games on it than I have time to play. I plan on getting a Wii U at some point, but like the Wii and PS3, I'll wait for the catalogue to build up and price to come down. I'd say we'll see the decrease in price nearer the Sony and MS new console launches


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,563 ✭✭✭leeroybrown


    Most gamers I know who bought a Wii sold it again. That was generally down to the lack of major releases to keep them gaming on it. It generally played a very secondary role to their main console. One friend used it more with Gamecube games and controllers than with the Wii games.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,614 ✭✭✭Nollog


    I didn't feel burned. I enjoyed the massive amount of good Nintendo games, and occasional third party games I got on the Wii.

    3 million (900k in Europe) isn't too bad for 2 months imo, people are just expecting it to outdo something that was easier to explain, had wider appeal, was cheaper, and people had money to buy.


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  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 30,019 CMod ✭✭✭✭johnny_ultimate


    I'd also like to think people are just seeing sense and realising it's a mite unnecessary to pick up launch consoles before the software catalogue has a chance to expand and diversify. Plus the inevitably price drops down the line... If you have the money, a new gadget is of course always fun, so buy away. But there's no doubt consoles take a year or two for their potential to be realised. There's nothing like picking up a console with a couple of year's worth of excellent releases to keep you occupied in the immediate and long-terms.
    Retr0gamer wrote: »
    I find the typical gamer isn't even aware of how many great games are out there.

    FYP - I think the problem is far more widespread than just Wii owners :(


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,029 ✭✭✭um7y1h83ge06nx


    I'd also like to think people are just seeing sense and realising it's a mite unnecessary to pick up launch consoles before the software catalogue has a chance to expand and diversify. Plus the inevitably price drops down the line... If you have the money, a new gadget is of course always fun, so buy away. But there's no doubt consoles take a year or two for their potential to be realised. There's nothing like picking up a console with a couple of year's worth of excellent releases to keep you occupied in the immediate and long-terms.

    True, I'd be more tempted to buy a PS3 before a Wii U. Grab all those great PS3 exclusives that I have missed out on at a cut price.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,012 ✭✭✭BizzyC


    My main reason is the catalog.

    Once they've built up a more impressive list of nintendo games, I'll probably cave and buy one...


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,010 ✭✭✭saiint


    bought one straight at launch
    played it for a month? maybe 2 months with friends
    now i havnt touched it since then
    dont like it all really
    kinect is even better then the wii and thats only part of a console


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,225 ✭✭✭snausages


    Bayonetta 2 is not a strong enough motivating factor for me. The first one is arguably one of the most technically fluid combat games out there but as far as combat possibilities go DMC dwarfs it. That's a separate topic entirely though.

    The technology doesn't interest me the slightest.


  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Music Moderators, Regional Midlands Moderators Posts: 24,135 Mod ✭✭✭✭Angron


    Have no intention of getting it. I'm (admittedly) biased towards PC gaming, and the PS3 to an extent, so that does skew it I guess. Honestly, if it wasn't for the Pokémon games on the Game Boy, GBA and DS, I'd never own a Nintendo console.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 470 ✭✭moonlighting


    Pokemon


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,405 ✭✭✭gizmo


    snausages wrote: »
    Bayonetta 2 is not a strong enough motivating factor for me. The first one is arguably one of the most technically fluid combat games out there but as far as combat possibilities go DMC dwarfs it. That's a separate topic entirely though.

    The technology doesn't interest me the slightest.
    Go home snausages, you are drunk.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,447 ✭✭✭richymcdermott


    i bought a wii u at launch .. quite happy with it , though all i am playing is sonic all star racing transformed and finishing up on xenoblade.

    my influence on the purchase was cause of the wii. before i bought it i was just a playstation user , betraying my sega roots for a ps1 ..i still never forgive myself :(.

    anyways up till 2009-2010, wii was a total wake up call and opened my eyes to some of the best games that were not there on the ps3/360.

    most of the hd consoles games were shooters, theres no denying that, and despite some of my favourite games this gen were on ps3 like demon souls, valkyria chronicles ,yakuza.. i found the wii to have more games that took risk or were different from what was offered this gen which was a cod clone in fp or 3rd person.

    Alot of people say nintendo has no 3rd party support , but i am looking at the list and all i ever see is 3rd party support.

    no more heroes was 3rd party exclusive for awhile aswell as house of the dead overkill and the dead space, resident evil rail shooters.
    then you had games like fragile dreams, zack and wiki, nights journey of dreams, last story, pandoras tower, sonic colours (etc..) all 3rd party exclusives.

    3rd party has always being there for nintendo and in most cases where it mattered most in exclusivity.

    So ya i bought a wiiu hoping for more of the same what the wii offered and after nintendo latest direct it looks like i am getting what i hoped for. monolith new game, fire emblemx shin megami tensei, wind waker hd which i never played, bayonetta 2, wonderful101...

    so many great games and e3 is just around the corner :D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,225 ✭✭✭snausages


    gizmo wrote: »
    Go home snausages, you are drunk.

    But it's true. It's a good game, but not on the same level. On a normal difficulty playthrough there appears a great layer of depth but when you actually try to explore the nuances of the combat on higher levels you notice just how interchangeable most of the techniques are. It's fast, fluid and accessible and dodge offset was a great innovation, but that's about it.Massively overrated.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 983 ✭✭✭Hercule


    I didn't buy the wii U as there is nothing on it (so far) that interests me enough (that can't be gotten on PC)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,044 ✭✭✭Wossack


    compared to wii-mania when the first was originally released, its been like a crypt with regards the wii u

    I went looking in the nintendo forum a few weeks ago, as I wasnt sure it was even out yet


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,405 ✭✭✭gizmo


    snausages wrote: »
    But it's true. It's a good game, but not on the same level. On a normal difficulty playthrough there appears a great layer of depth but when you actually try to explore the nuances of the combat on higher levels you notice just how interchangeable most of the techniques are. It's fast, fluid and accessible and dodge offset was a great innovation, but that's about it.Massively overrated.
    Wait, are you talking about the recent DmC or the original DMC entries, most notably DMC3?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,738 ✭✭✭djkeogh


    Well it's a very different economic climate out there today compared to when the Wii originally launched. So that will have a part to play in some of the lacklustre sales figures.

    I got the Wii on launch day. I wouldn't say I ever regretted buying it but I certainly became disillusioned with it and sold it in 2009. It was a mainstay in my gaming life up til then though. For a "gamer" it never really had enough diversity in it's catalogue. True enough, there were some cracking titles on it but these always undersold and became sparse as the lifecycle continued compared to the 360 and PS3.

    I've little to no interest in the Wii U at this stage. Very little other than the usual urge to play Nintendo titles there to draw me to it at this stage. I may pick it up in the future, but with purses tightening all over the place and talk of next gen for Xbox and PS being announced soon, I think it'd be hasty so splurge money on.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,276 ✭✭✭readyletsgo


    I bought a Wii in 2007, I enjoyed it but I was just not into the Wiimote at all, annoyed me and hurt my wrists, but it did work great with a lot of games like RE4 MGalaxy1&2 etc, but I just wanted to play with a controller at the end of the day tbh so I got a 360 in 2009. I cracked my Wii in 2009 also, and still have it for blasts of whatever I wanna play (I know, I'm the probelm, but I buy all my games for 360/3DS/WiiU on launch day since 2010).

    Bought WiiU at launch to play MarioU, got NLand and ZombiU too, but I have only finished MarioU. NLand is just not clicking with me at the moment and the same with ZombiU, but they will later on I'm sure. But in the mean time I have DS3, Bioshock3 and loads of other games from my own back cat to play through until the summer, no problem yes!

    So the way I am looking at it, yes I have the WiiU for the rest of its lifespan now, not many games out for it until prob after March but some much is in the pipe line for this 2 mont old console, its only at the start give it a chance, I mean like, its like like the Vita :p

    Also, the main reason sales will not be like the Wii is because there is world wide recession on at the moment (duh), people dont seem to realize this for some weird odd reason, the sales at launch are always 'hardcore gamers' :rolleyes:, others will follow in sales when the back cat is bigger and when the general public know what it is. Also when a price cut comes in 2 years time.

    I do believe the Nextbox and PS4 will be a little bit stronger than the WiiU, but I dont think there will be massive leaps in power.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,225 ✭✭✭snausages


    gizmo wrote: »
    Wait, are you talking about the recent DmC or the original DMC entries, most notably DMC3?

    Yeah, 3 and 4. DmC has about as much depth as a pancake unfortunately.

    But mainly what I was trying to say is that one mildly interesting third-party exclusive isn't really enough for me. I'd have to wait and see what else comes out first.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 30,019 CMod ✭✭✭✭johnny_ultimate


    snausages wrote: »
    Yeah, 3 and 4. DmC has about as much depth as a pancake unfortunately.

    Bayonetta offers many times the depth and satisfaction DMC4 does, and it's at least on par with DMC3 quality-wise. On hard difficulty, Bayonetta just sings and doesn't let up for its entirety. Probably the most involving combat system I've ever experience in a 3rd person brawler.

    Of course there are plenty of other Wii U games I'm looking forward to, and I'm sure many more to be announced. But Bayonetta 2 - assuming it turns out well - is the closest thing a console has had to offer me in terms of a 'killer app' in a good while.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,405 ✭✭✭gizmo


    snausages wrote: »
    Yeah, 3 and 4. DmC has about as much depth as a pancake unfortunately.

    But mainly what I was trying to say is that one mildly interesting third-party exclusive isn't really enough for me. I'd have to wait and see what else comes out first.
    Ah, now it makes sense, at least with DMC3. I still disagree with calling Bayonetta overrated mind you but will happily agree that DMC3 is the superior game. That being said, Bayonetta 2 is a major draw to the Wii U for me personally, certainly won't be picking one up based solely on it, but it's probably my most anticipated game for the system at the moment.

    As for DmC, I still find this quote from Saurian to be the most apt...
    Devil May Cry 3 is the 3D action equivalent to SF3 3rd Strike. DmC is the equivalent to Street Fighter: The Movie, that's EXACTLY the description that fits. Yet these dicks don't care. There are actually people blindly defending what's going on, they celebrate mediocrity (in fact it's as if they crave it). I remember when Street Fighter: The Movie hit the arcades; nobody ****ing touched it, nobody ****ing spoke about it and rightly so! What the **** has happened?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,896 ✭✭✭penev10


    The Wii never delivered on the motion-control promise. Skyward Sword did late in it's life-cycle (following 2 hardware revisions of the controller) but that's about it.

    I did however get plenty of joy from my Wii with the likes of Little King Story, Sakura Wars, Xenoblade Chronicles, Monster Hunter Tri etc. and there are plenty of other quality under-the-radar releases.

    I just wouldn't be spending top dollar on another console when there are still so many excellent looking games in the pipelines for the current gen machines.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,225 ✭✭✭snausages


    That's a really great quote about DmC/SF: The movie. Sums up my experience with the game pretty well. I think I need a double dose of DMC3 and Bayo to get it out of my system.


  • Moderators Posts: 5,580 ✭✭✭Azza


    Devil May Cry 3 is the 3D action equivalent to SF3 3rd Strike. DmC is the equivalent to Street Fighter: The Movie, that's EXACTLY the description that fits. Yet these dicks don't care. There are actually people blindly defending what's going on, they celebrate mediocrity (in fact it's as if they crave it). I remember when Street Fighter: The Movie hit the arcades; nobody ****ing touched it, nobody ****ing spoke about it and rightly so! What the **** has happened?

    Ah so DMC 3 is unbalanced mess of shallow hit confirm into super gameplay populated by emo's and freaks and where everyone has stupidly big feet.

    While DmC has a video clip of Raul Julia as M.Bison running in the background.

    I know which game I'm playing!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,485 ✭✭✭✭Banjo


    In a way I do feel burned by the Wii. The business model in 2007 was simple - where Sony had set their stall out with at proposed 10 year life cycle for the PS3, an all-encompassing media extravaganza with cutting edge tech that cost a fortune to manufacture but would come down in price as production ramped up and was refined, Nintendo went the other way - a cheap console that only tried to be a games box with "Then-Gen" tech that could be manufactured cheap from the get-go, made a profit from day one and had a fixed life of 5 years, at which point it would be replaced by a similarly cheap console so users could afford frequent low-cost upgrades instead of one massive shell out every 6-10 years.

    Then they dropped a €400 bomb on me. Those mother fathers!

    My Wii does not get a lot of use, because a year or so after I got mine my first kid was born, and opportunities to play it started drying up. Also, I seem to have missed a lot of the big titles (Monster Hunter, Last Story, Xenoblade all passed me by...) and a WiiU has too many ways to break it to put it in a house with a curious 4 year old and a psychotic 2 year old. I'll wait.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,349 ✭✭✭✭super_furry


    Yeah gotta agree. At €299 for the proper, non-gimped version, the Wii-U would be a much more enticing prospect.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,789 ✭✭✭✭ScumLord


    I can't say I was ever disappointed with the Wii, it was the first console I bought since the Amiga 32 so the Wii would have had to be awfully terrible to trump that yolk.

    We had great fun playing bowling but I brought the Wii to my nephews one day and didn't see it again for a year. I have it back now but haven't had any great urge to play it again.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,555 ✭✭✭Kinski


    I thought the pointer a much cooler feature than the actual motion controls, which is ironic given that that could've been implemented years before. Great for third-person shooting, with the rejigged RE4 an outstanding example. Sadly, the genre was never well represented on Wii, and FPSs didn't really work as elegantly (MotionPlus could be even better, removing the need to actually point at the screen, so I hope we see more experimentation involving that on the WiiU.)

    So far, the WiiU seems to be following a similar pattern to the Wii, with very few games actually justifying the console's USP. Nintendoland probably the only one at this point, but Nintendo really need to prove that a tablet controller was worth including.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,485 ✭✭✭✭Banjo


    FPS FPShmes! If you've never played PES on the Wii do so immediately. I'll wait here while you do it.


    See? That's what they invented pointers for! I didn't play any after 2009, but jaysus - turning the standard Football game on it's head and making it into semi-RTS was inspired. Feck the through-ball button! Feck the "someone please make a run on goal" button. Let's all scribble on the screen like Johnny Giles on coke.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,519 ✭✭✭Oafley Jones


    I posted something similar to this just before the WiiU launched...

    Of a core group of my friends, 7 of us have the Wii. I, like one other, also have a 360, another a PS3. The three of us will be buying the respective replacement system. Besides that, not one of us has any intention of picking up the WiiU. The last time I turned the Wii on was just after I bought the motion plus add-ons. Everyone else's machines have been equally neglected.

    Do I feel burned? No. I had great time when the machine came out, it's just that there wasn't much beyond the core Nintendo games that appealed to me. The Wii catalogue wasn't helped by being swamped by absolute shovel-ware. Going into browse the shelves in Virgin/Game in the hopes of finding something different, you'd quickly be turned off by the likes of Noel Edmunds House party or some sort of bull****. The only thing that appeals on the U is ZombieU and I'm not buying a machine for one game. I don't see anything of interest on the horizon, and I've no time for the controller.

    I should add, that we're all old ****ers now. All bar one of us has gotten married since the Wii launched and a few have two kids as well. So our free time has dropped off significantly; so the days of having a few consoles each has probably disappeared for us all.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,258 ✭✭✭✭DARK-KNIGHT


    i think the wii u is the perfect answer to those like myself married with kids as you dont have to hog tv in evenings so keeps missus happy..

    plus points the gamepad screen is amazing.

    the games coming for it are class..

    have a wii u now solely as my console of choice and i am 100 % happy with it tbh


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,109 ✭✭✭Sarn


    The Wii drew a lot of non-traditional gamers in with the novelty aspect. Once the novelty wore off it started to gather dust. I think this time around we won't be seeing these people back.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,084 ✭✭✭Grumpypants


    Did I feel burned? Absolutely. Did it put me off? No but it did cause doubts.

    Does the Wii have good games? Absolutely, but if you separate the console from the games (I know that sounds weird) the console itself is a huge let down. The graphics are well below par, the controllers don't work and are up there as one of the worst i have ever used. No HD output means it looks awful on a big screen.

    Even the biggest Wii fan would be hard pushed to argue that any of the games they loved are better because they are running on a less powerful machine with worse graphics and worse physics.

    Did it put me off buying a Wii-U? No. I picked one up recently and I am delighted with it, but it reinforces everything I felt was wrong with the Wii.

    The Wii-U is a brilliant machine and if Nintendo had released it 3 or 4 years ago I would be confident that Nintendo would be back as co-leaders in the market rather than being very much in third place.

    2D Mario in HD is sublime, I adore that game, ZombiU is brilliant too but what will hold it back is that it is again just too little too late in the next few months it will be very much a last gen console.

    It will be hard to get people to take the plunge especially with the PS4 and Xbox 720 about to come out and both the PS3 and Xbox being just as good as it and boasting a massive choice of games that is never going to be matched by the Wii-U. Third party devs will not be rusing to release games on a console with a low player base as you can see from the list of upcoming games that the Wii-U has been left out of.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,447 ✭✭✭richymcdermott


    Did I feel burned? Absolutely. Did it put me off? No but it did cause doubts.

    Does the Wii have good games? Absolutely, but if you separate the console from the games (I know that sounds weird) the console itself is a huge let down. The graphics are well below par, the controllers don't work and are up there as one of the worst i have ever used. No HD output means it looks awful on a big screen.

    Even the biggest Wii fan would be hard pushed to argue that any of the games they loved are better because they are running on a less powerful machine with worse graphics and worse physics.

    Did it put me off buying a Wii-U? No. I picked one up recently and I am delighted with it, but it reinforces everything I felt was wrong with the Wii.

    The Wii-U is a brilliant machine and if Nintendo had released it 3 or 4 years ago I would be confident that Nintendo would be back as co-leaders in the market rather than being very much in third place.

    2D Mario in HD is sublime, I adore that game, ZombiU is brilliant too but what will hold it back is that it is again just too little too late in the next few months it will be very much a last gen console.

    It will be hard to get people to take the plunge especially with the PS4 and Xbox 720 about to come out and both the PS3 and Xbox being just as good as it and boasting a massive choice of games that is never going to be matched by the Wii-U. Third party devs will not be rusing to release games on a console with a low player base as you can see from the list of upcoming games that the Wii-U has been left out of.

    alot of these games that are coming out for ps3 and 360 but not wiiu because the wii u install base is too small right now cause its a new system and with a userbase of 3 million at the moment.Some developers will feel that at this moment of time its not worth the man power or money to bring these games over to nintendo just yet . who knows , when numbers will grow there might be more multiplats there for nintendo. They really are pushing for it with the wiiu than the wii.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,788 ✭✭✭✭krudler


    one of the problems with the Wii is Nintendo's reluctance to reduce their first party software prices, games that are a good few years old are still stupidly expensive to buy new: http://www.amazon.com/Super-Mario-Galaxy-2-Nintendo-Wii/dp/B002BSA388/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1359925160&sr=8-1&keywords=mario+galaxy+2

    yeah they do budget versions but way, way after than they should. Mario Galaxy 1 was released as a budget title in 2011, it came out in 2007 ffs! fantastic game it may be but in an era where a game is half price sometimes 3 months after release its crazy to expect people to pay full whack for a 3 year old game.

    I really should pick up Skyward Sword as its the only Zelda title (bar the cd-i ones) I havent played, but I'm fecked if I'm paying 50 quid for it


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,559 ✭✭✭✭CastorTroy


    It's mainly the 2D Marios that keep their price. Skyward Sword is £18 on amazon and the first Galaxy is £20.

    But it's games like the 2D Marios that sell to the "casual gamers" and as long as they're selling at that price, why lower the price? At least that's the way they look at it, as a business.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,535 ✭✭✭joe123


    Just doesnt have enough games for me to be interested in it. Not enough 3rd party support and I wouldn't spend the money waiting for the Zeldas and Marios to be released.

    Dont know anyone whos bought one either which says alot.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 666 ✭✭✭collie0708


    Got the Wii a couple of years ago on Christmas day once the novelty of wii sports wore off not enough top class games for me... wii u no thanks I'll keep my cash for new playstation...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,029 ✭✭✭um7y1h83ge06nx


    krudler wrote: »
    one of the problems with the Wii is Nintendo's reluctance to reduce their first party software prices, games that are a good few years old are still stupidly expensive to buy new: http://www.amazon.com/Super-Mario-Galaxy-2-Nintendo-Wii/dp/B002BSA388/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1359925160&sr=8-1&keywords=mario+galaxy+2

    yeah they do budget versions but way, way after than they should. Mario Galaxy 1 was released as a budget title in 2011, it came out in 2007 ffs! fantastic game it may be but in an era where a game is half price sometimes 3 months after release its crazy to expect people to pay full whack for a 3 year old game.

    I really should pick up Skyward Sword as its the only Zelda title (bar the cd-i ones) I havent played, but I'm fecked if I'm paying 50 quid for it

    Very true. I used be shocked at the prices of old Wii games. Okay the shovel ware might go cheap but the AAA Nintendo stuff as you say seems to hold it's price both new and second hand.

    I think it's indicative of how little really big AAA games were released for the machine when they can hold their value for that long. Most of the 360's and PS3 AAA games that were released 6/12 months ago can be had for €20-30 now.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,693 ✭✭✭Deano7788


    Very true. I used be shocked at the prices of old Wii games. Okay the shovel ware might go cheap but the AAA Nintendo stuff as you say seems to hold it's price both new and second hand.

    I think it's indicative of how little really big AAA games were released for the machine when they can hold their value for that long. Most of the 360's and PS3 AAA games that were released 6/12 months ago can be had for €20-30 now.

    Actually I think it's more down to Nintendo who as far as I'm aware don't offer any form of price reduction to shops after a period of time, whereas other publishers reduce their prices after a while.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 52,406 CMod ✭✭✭✭Retr0gamer


    Deano7788 wrote: »
    Actually I think it's more down to Nintendo who as far as I'm aware don't offer any form of price reduction to shops after a period of time, whereas other publishers reduce their prices after a while.

    They do offer credit deals if a game is performing badly. Other M was heavily discounted. Nintendo just know that their games after the initial rush are slow burners and will continue to sell. People laughed when Reggie said NSMB Wii would outsell Modern Warfare 2. He was right.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,555 ✭✭✭Kinski


    Good piece from Digital Foundry, which confirms what everyone (everyone not in denial, that is) already suspected - the Wii U is a little beefier than the 360 and PS3, but will trail the next-gen Microsoft and Sony offerings:
    ...with these numbers we can now, categorically, finally rule out any next-gen pretensions for the Wii U - the GCN hardware in Durango and Orbis is in a completely different league

    Despite the raft of first-party titles revealed recently, it's getting harder to remain optimistic about the console's future. Marketing seems poor, third-party support remains poor, and major third-party was-going-to-be-exclusive Rayman: Origins has gone multiplatform (the Wii U doesn't even get a period of exclusivity, as the game's release is delayed to allow for a simultaneous debut on PS3 and Xbox.)

    Meanwhile, we'll get a first look at the PS4 within weeks, with the Xbox surely not far behind; despite being first out of the blocks, the WiiU's honeymoon has been a very short one. Where's the urgency from Nintendo in response to these challenges?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,276 ✭✭✭readyletsgo


    Anyone have a list of release dates for WiiU games coming out this year as I havent turned mine on to play something in about a month now. Such a shame really, I have it forever at the end of the day but I also want to play the damn thing!

    Thank god for my 3DS and games coming for that.

    Oh well, DS3 today Bioshock next month for my Xbox, keep me busy for a couple weeks.

    I had/have no interest in RaymanL, but jaysus thats a bit of a kick in the face for Ninty, the game is made, just release it for the WiiU and spend the next 6 months porting it to PS3 and Xbox, unless, they are delaying it for mulity release due to it being crap(?) and would lose out in sales if it was release now for the Wiiu.


    I have too many systems lol.


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