awkward issue with the engagement ring

lifeandtimes

Long story short, my fiance and I have split and we have a baby girl,it was her decision which I wont get into but have ended on very bad terms....generally I would expect the engagement ring back but she says she is entitled to keep it and wants to give it too our daughter when shes older....i think this is strange as to give our daughter are ring of our love that is none existent anymore and as a reminder of how we didnt stay together

What do you guys think,am I entitled to get it back?should I get it back?should I let her give it too our daughter?

Any advice appreciated
Thanks

MintyDoris

I think it's only manners for her to return the ring to you. Especially when it was her who ended the engagement. As for her wanting to give it your daughter, the cynic in me says that's an excuse to keep the ring.

RetailChick

Legally you are entitled to the ring. The ring was given with the expectation of marriage, that has not happened. Request it again and if she refuses to return it bring it to small claims court where you will be successful.

Holsten

Of course you should get it back! Your daughter will get lots of stuff over the years from both of you, but I don't think she should get this.

Get it back, sell it, go on a holiday to Vegas or something.

Valentina

AFAIK you are legally entitled to the return of the ring.

Overheal

IANAL, but I would want that kind of thing to be a legal statute. Engagement Rings are damned expensive.

The Corinthian

The traditional convention is that if you break the engagement, she gets to to keep the ring. If she does, you get it back. In your case, even if she ended the engagement, I can probably guarantee that in her narrative, you were the cause for the failure of the engagement and so she'll refuse to return it.

Legally, I have no idea; technically once a gift is given, it's no longer yours, but engagement rings could well be a special case in law. You'd have to find out from a solicitor.

In practical terms, you're screwed. If she refuses to return it and you sue her, you probably can be guaranteed that she'll retaliate and with both custody and the law favouring her, you'll lose out on balance and in the long term. Realistically, the best you can hope for is that it will be considered where it comes to any maintenance agreement, due to the financial hit you've already taken.

Honestly, I'd look on the positive side. Marrying her was a bad idea and you're lucky you didn't go through with it. That you have a daughter together was probably the principle, perhaps the only, reason you were going to do so and that otherwise you wouldn't have, and this does not make for a good basis for a life-long commitment, TBH. In that context, you may have lost the value of a ring, but you've saved ten or a hundred times that in future spousal maintenance and loss of personal assets, as your marriage would have likely failed, sooner or later.

CommanderC

Tell her you want the ring back so you can sell it in order to provide for your daughter. What use is an engagement ring to a kid ? She is bull****ting you.

saiint

my step dad had this same issue
his fiance ended the relationship after them been together 6 years
he actually did bring her to court
he ended up getting it
but i think he told me cant be too sure not exact words the judge said it was part of an arrangement between to adults , the ring was an engagement for the two of them to get married , as this failed to happen everything between both partys which was towards the marriage was either given back or split , they both saved up money together which was split since it was a joint account

so basicly he got the ring back but in other words i think he was telling me that the judge gave him the ring back but any other judge could think the same thing or could simply say , you's got engaged you gave her the ring she keeps it. i suppose its all about what judge you have on the day
long story short go to a soliciter see what he thinks , i think its worth bringing to court , since you technically own it , she broke the engagement and to be honest she seems like a greedy ____ , your lucky you got out now before you's were married other wise you wouldnt be just looking for a ring back