The Age of Aquarius in Freemasonic Teaching.

SoulandForm

Very interesting and fits very well....

http://www.american-buddha.com/nazi.fireiceflower.2.htm#The_Dark_Side_of_the_Aquarian_Age

"The strict doctrines concerning cosmic aeons (from Greek aion, age) have their origin in Gnostic teachings of the early centuries of our era. This concept, although it had a certain magical role in ancient times, became enormously important with the magical work of Aleister Crowley following 1904. The FS, inspired by Crowley and by the current astrological speculations concerning the dawn of a New Age of Aquarius, developed its own aeonic philosophy. It is essential to understand this philosophy if the whole work of the Brotherhood is to be grasped.

The ancient Gnostic sects of the Mediterranean and Near Eastern regions held that the aeons were the emanations of God. These emanations descended from the fullness (pleroma) of God's light into the darkness. Aeons are made up of an array of elements, the archons that rule them, the angels (Greek aggeloi, messengers) that provide for their dynamic interaction with the cosmos, the "reasons" (Greek logoi, or "words"), etc. In Gnostic practice these aeons were seen as barriers through which the initiate would have to pass after death until he gained the pleroma. In actual Gnostic teaching, then, an aeon is a phenomenon of time/ space. [42] The Earth may pass though "ages" ruled over by archons ("rulers") of astrologically determined periods of time, but the individual soul of a man must also pass through the barriers of the aeon in order to return to the light. So much for the ancient doctrine.

In Cairo, Egypt, Aleister Crowley received the text of a book dictated to him by a praeternatural entity identified as Aiwass or Aiwaz. This happened in 1904, and from that time on Crowley began to preach the advent of a new aeon, the Aeon of Horus, which in turn superceded the Aeons of Isis and Osiris. It is clear that Crowley understood himself as an agent and an indespensable element of this new aeon, the Word of the Aeon made flesh. From that point he was to function as a Magus (although he was not to claim that grade until 1915), and as the Utterer of an Aeonic Word. Theoretically, it became his task and his curse to attempt to articulate this Word, which is (Thelema), the True Will. In this the Great Beast had synthesized the old Gnostic idea of a natural progression of the aeonic rulers on Earth and the idea of a godlike intervention from above, exemplified in the Gnostic Christology.

Crowley had conjured a new way of magical thinking with his aeonic formulation, and it was one that struck a few responsive cords. Gregor A. Gregorius accepted the advent of the aeonic current of Thelema but did not accept Crowley's system (A...A... or O.T.O.), nor his authority in non-aeonic matters. In 1948 Crowley's own disciple, Charles Stansfield Jones (Frater Achad), claimed to have uttered a new Word superceding that of Thelema. Achad's Word was supposedly Ma-Ion or Ma'at—the Egyptian goddess of truth and justice. All this turned out rather badly, as Jones ended his days in obscurity and insanity.

Of course, many hold to orthodox notions of "aeonic questions" pronounced more or less clearly by Aleister Crowley, while others even attempt to work with Achad's formulation. The dynamic understanding of the Setian Xeper, as continually articulated by its Magus, provides a more individuated and clearly articulated aeonic pathway than any of the previous attempts to work with such "Aeonic Words." In any event, some perspective on these aeonic concepts cannot be ignored when one is trying to understand the history of magical thinking in twentieth-century Western tradition. In the FS the advent of the new aeon is seen first and foremost in astrological terms. It is the equivalent of the Age of Aquarius, ruled by the planetary archon Saturnus. The role of the Master Therion's Aeonic Word seems to be of secondary importance. What might be of widespread interest is the magico-astrological insight into the fact that the Aquarian Age will be one ultimately ruled by the dark Saturno-Uranian archon or demiurge.

The cosmosophy of the FS is dependent on the natural procession of the equinoxes into the sign of Aquarius, which as a sign of the zodiac is traditionally said to be ruled by the planet Saturn. With the discovery of trans-Saturnian planets, and after astrology had synthesized them into its system, the planet Uranus was also said to rule this sign. This physical event, as well as the other astrophysical phenomena taking place in the cosmos and more particularly within our solar system, are reflections of metaphysical events occurring simultaneously with the physical ones. The same can be said for the birth of the solar system, and its eventual entropic collapse.

Although it is stated that "every age or epoch contains within itself the power necessary to its own fulfillment," [43] humanity as a whole resists this realization. It is only open to and known by the truly elect within a society. Humanity is for the most part still dominated by an unyielding law of self-destruction that rules in all realms of being, organic as well as inorganic. Knowledge and experience of the archdaimonic principle embodied in Saturn can, however, free the initiate from the laws of cause and effect. In other terms, man can liberate himself from his own karma. [44] Beyond the moral aspects of this, these ideas are also useful in formulating a notion of how Saturnian magic works. It is the progression of the individual beyond the threshold—beyond the barrier—in order to become separate from the internal, objective cosmos. In theory, the Aquarian Age, the aeon of Saturn, should be manifest first and foremost within the magically elect.

The influence of the coming Aquarian Age is being guided by the Demiurge Saturnus, which is in turn being transformed through Uranian influence. The present, fading Piscean Age is (was) ruled by Jupiter, under the hidden influence of Neptune. The Neptunian influence is thought to be exercising tremendous force at the close of the Piscean Age in the area of politics; hence the upsurge in collectivistic and communistic ideals. This tide will, however, suddenly turn, and this influx will be destroyed by the surging Uranian power. According to Saturnian teachings, the confusion of today's world is mainly due to the convergence of the two competing and conflicting aeonic streams, the incoming Aquarian and the outgoing Piscean. It will be up to the emerging Saturno-Uranian spirit and its elect to bring a new order out of this chaos. In this process the old nature of Saturn is undergoing a transformation as well. It is becoming more "spiritual," while at the same time it retains its basic quality of stability and solidity. The synthesis of these qualities leads to a powerful balance in which the powers of the spirit are directed and manifested in exacting, precise ways which are as yet unheard of. [45]

In the Saturnian view, there does seem, to be sure, a dark side of the Age of Aquarius. Based on some fairly objectively interpreted astrological teachings, it could be concluded that the Aquarian Age will only appear to be one of rational and humanitarian egalitarianism. The Saturno-Uranian reality looming behind this world of appearances will be one of an enlightened system of control by a ruling elite—the final reign of the Illuminati."

Torakx

Interesting,deep and confusing lol
I know of one cult anyway that believe in a thousand year reign on earth after satan(saturn?) is imprisoned.Then after 1000 years he/it is released/returns.
They refuse the blood and body of christ every year, as a ritual.
And i think its likely it was started by someone in a secret society who studied Egyptology and was involved with the Golden Dawn.
I suspect it might be the case that the Bible was written by man and not inspired by God.
It was used to control ignorant people and later set the stage for a takeover.

I could see that thousand year reign (ruled by 144,00 in heaven btw) as being a slave class cleaning up the mess after the elites killed most of us off and rule happily over some poor sods who think they are obeying God or maybe by then Aliens/gods.
Ive often wondered if the hidden symbolism and beliefs within cults like this, are a sign of plans coming from within secret societies.

SoulandForm

Torakx wrote: »

Interesting,deep and confusing lol
I know of one cult anyway that believe in a thousand year reign on earth after satan(saturn?) is imprisoned.Then after 1000 years he/it is released/returns.
They refuse the blood and body of christ every year, as a ritual.
And i think its likely it was started by someone in a secret society who studied Egyptology and was involved with the Golden Dawn.
I suspect it might be the case that the Bible was written by man and not inspired by God.
It was used to control ignorant people and later set the stage for a takeover.

Can you tell me more about this?

Are you referring to the Jevhovah Witnesses?

The Book of Revelations was very nearly rejected from the Bible because of the passage about the 1000 year reign.

The Assyrian Church of the East who are a very ancient Christian community (now sadly being ethnically cleansed from their homelands in Iraq and Syria by Saudi backed Wabahists) do not include it in Scripture.

Torakx

SoulandForm wrote: »

Can you tell me more about this?

Are you referring to the Jevhovah Witnesses?

The Book of Revelations was very nearly rejected from the Bible because of the passage about the 1000 year reign.

The Assyrian Church of the East who are a very ancient Christian community (now sadly being ethnically cleansed from their homelands in Iraq and Syria by Saudi backed Wabahists) do not include it in Scripture.

Yep Jehovahs Witnesses.
The passover is celebrated and is the most important ritual they have.Its a big thing to miss it.
However because of their beliefs only the anointed (144,000) will go to heaven and only they partake of the passover bread and wine.
Everyone else passes over the bread and wine.
Apparently because they will be cleaning up the earth for 1000 years, then a quick trial by satan and then eternity on a happy paradise,to those ho hold fast.
While the anointed in heaven rule over earth alongside Jesus.

How the anointed are chosen is a mystery.Since God chooses them and they get the spirit in them and know they are chosen...
But how the governing body of that cult can decide i dont know lol

But it does seem to me a rejection of Christ.Although i dont even believe in god etc anymore.
I could see that group being the perfect slaves for any government that will allow them to practise their faith.
They will die for that cause, are forbidden to take part in politics(living by the motto,"Give Ceasars things to Ceasar and Gods things to God"), forbidden to harm their bodies and believe pretty much everything that is laid out in the mind control program they follow.
Its THE best mind control slave making system i have ever seen fullstop.
Instead of forcing people, its done in a way that preys on your emotions,once that is done you will take on the teaching into your ego and defend it religiously once its set in.
Its scary stuff.

But anyway my main reason to bring it up is your mention of Freemasons and the age of aquarius.
Charles Taze Russell (JW founder, ex seventh day adventist) Studied Egyptology before making the religions beliefs...oops! i mean before being inspired by God!
He visited Israel and even wrote to Baron Hirsch and Rothschild about his plans for Palestine
http://www.ctrussell.us/
Under watchtower and december you can find halfway down a letter to them.

::R1342 : page 168::

A NEW GOVERNMENT FOR PALESTINE PROPOSED.

COPY OF A LETTER OF SUGGESTION, WRITTEN BY THE EDITOR WHILE IN PALESTINE, TO THE TWO LEADING HEBREWS OF THE WORLD, BARONS ROTHSCHILD AND HIRSCH.

---

November 20th, 1891.

Too long to post it.

Anyway their beliefs fall in line with a doomsday situation, a cleaning up for a long time and being ruled by anointed people.
And from the letter and beliefs, I would say the plan is to bringng Israel to power.

There is good reason to believe the founder was either in a secret society or was heavily inspired by them.Possibly the Freemasons, Templars or Rosicrucians.

This is a picture of his gravestone with a pyramid monument behind it with Watchtower stuff inscribed on it.
I think its now a masonic graveyard, with a new masonic building on the property in the background.

SoulandForm

JWs are strange people, and annoying, but because they are pacifists I tend to give them the benefit of the doubt (as people- I reject their view of the Bible). The Mormons on the other hand are a different kettle fish- whats strange about them is that they are as ritualistic as pre-Vatican II Roman Catholics and the Orthodox, actually probably more so, which is kind of "un-American" at least when we are talking about public religion. They definitely have roots in Occultism.

SoulandForm

This is a pretty full on and frightening detail from the book the OP links too;


http://www.american-buddha.com/nazi.fireiceflower.1.htm

"One of the most important, and certainly the most diabolically mysterious, of these shadowy lodges was the Free-Masonic Order of the Golden Centurium (FOGC). This order was supposedly founded in 1840 in Munich by some rich German industrialists and well- placed citizens. [13] The FOGC was an openly daemonological order that maintained magical contact with a tetrad of daemons: Barzabel (planetary demonium of Mars), Astaroth, Belial, and Asmodeus. The service of these entities was to provide the initiates he order with untold personal power, influence, and wealth.

In essence the FOGC was a cult of human sacrifice. The centurium in its name is Latin for a group or division of one hundred. Actually, the number of initiates in the lodge was limited to ninety-nine—the one-hundredth member of the order was the demonium itself. Each year a new member was elected and initiated, so the extra human initiate had to be sacrificed to the demonium. This whole affair was taken care of on the night of the twenty- third of June, St. John's Day. On that night, the lodge members would convene, and if no brother had died in the course of the year, a "lodge sacrifice" had to be chosen. This was done by drawing lots. The initiate chosen for this honor would then drink a poison draught in order to complete the sacrificial act. In the case of their refusal, this could be accomplished at a distance by means of the dreaded "Tepaphone" (German: Tepaphon)—a machine which, when coupled with the will of a magician, could kill anyone no matter where they were. This machine is also mentioned and described in the FS documents. The sinister FOGG plays a dominant role in the "magical autobiography" of Franz Bardon, Frabato, [14] wherein dramatic instances of the application of the Tepaphone are portrayed. Most of the material having to do with the FOGC seems quite legendary and fantastic in tone, but certain features of it are more practically treated in the FS materials."

Torakx

The initiate chosen for this honor would then drink a poison draught in order to complete the sacrificial act. In the case of their refusal, this could be accomplished at a distance by means of the dreaded "Tepaphone" (German: Tepaphon)—a machine which, when coupled with the will of a magician, could kill anyone no matter where they were.

I find this hard to believe.

Also the Mormons do seem to have more of an open satanic association than JW's,I think.
Jw's put satanic images into magazine pictures subliminally.Its very subtle when you havent searched for it.
Same with the NLP wording in literature.

But Mormans and JW's as people act fairly similar I think.Jw's are all trained for public speaking.
They have a school programme for it ^^
I have some basic training over the years for public speaking, but nothing that some NLP research wouldnt cover either I think.

Coming from a JW perspective, they are waiting for the end.

I presume, end of the age and not of life.
Where they will be ruled by a small group in a global theocracy.
Oh I never mentioned this yet, but another bit of JW info from years ago, was that the UN would fullfill prophecy and turn against false religion.
When that happens the end will come.
They predicted the end of the world in 1914 before that date.
However it was just a world war.But interesting prediction all the same..

So alot of JW's may be unconsciously keeping an eye on the UN waiting for armageddon to come.
Since learning about the symbolism in the bible and the planets and stars, I can see harmonies between the two quite alot.
So naturally I see the biblical end of the world as exactly the same as the Mayan ideas about the ages changing and not neccesarily ending.
Just a tribulation of some kind.
A great tribulation according to JW's.

Aquarius34

SoulandForm wrote: »

"The strict doctrines concerning cosmic aeons (from Greek aion, age) have their origin in Gnostic teachings of the early centuries of our era. This concept, although it had a certain magical role in ancient times, became enormously important with the magical work of Aleister Crowley following 1904. The FS, inspired by Crowley and by the current astrological speculations concerning the dawn of a New Age of Aquarius, developed its own aeonic philosophy. It is essential to understand this philosophy if the whole work of the Brotherhood is to be grasped.

The Age of Aquarius has already started. There is nothing Freemason-ic about it other than Freemasons just understanding the knowledge of the ages in great depth. This knowledge was well known to the ancient peoples and Freemasonry today is an elite society that goes back over ions of time. They are now the keepers and holders of this knowledge. The difference between the anicents and modern day Freemasons is that Freemasons hold knowledge and the majority of the ancient tribes and people did not.

Of course, many hold to orthodox notions of "aeonic questions" pronounced more or less clearly by Aleister Crowley, while others even attempt to work with Achad's formulation. The dynamic understanding of the Setian Xeper, as continually articulated by its Magus, provides a more individuated and clearly articulated aeonic pathway than any of the previous attempts to work with such "Aeonic Words." In any event, some perspective on these aeonic concepts cannot be ignored when one is trying to understand the history of magical thinking in twentieth-century Western tradition. In the FS the advent of the new aeon is seen first and foremost in astrological terms. It is the equivalent of the Age of Aquarius, ruled by the planetary archon Saturnus. The role of the Master Therion's Aeonic Word seems to be of secondary importance. What might be of widespread interest is the magico-astrological insight into the fact that the Aquarian Age will be one ultimately ruled by the dark Saturno-Uranian archon or demiurge.

The cosmosophy of the FS is dependent on the natural procession of the equinoxes into the sign of Aquarius, which as a sign of the zodiac is traditionally said to be ruled by the planet Saturn. With the discovery of trans-Saturnian planets, and after astrology had synthesized them into its system, the planet Uranus was also said to rule this sign. This physical event, as well as the other astrophysical phenomena taking place in the cosmos and more particularly within our solar system, are reflections of metaphysical events occurring simultaneously with the physical ones. The same can be said for the birth of the solar system, and its eventual entropic collapse.

Uranus rules Aquarius. The energies attributed to Uranus is all about, Free spiritiness, revolution, radicalism, beckoning change, upheaval, reinvention, taboo, eccentricity. These qualities are also similar to the qualities that the sign Aquarius is attributed towards. We are moving from the dark ages, and we have officially moved from the age of Pisces which is ruled by Neptune and Jupiter. All the negatives to these that age is coming out in full velocity because that age has come to an end, so everything rises to the surface and the energies of that sign lay to rest until we meet that age again. Since we are in the transition now, this is going to be a very intense change for humanity and the entire world. We have not been in this age since the last galactic alignment of almost 26,000 years ago to where the age of Aquarius last ruled in it's placing on the zodiac here on Earth.

Although it is stated that "every age or epoch contains within itself the power necessary to its own fulfillment," [43] humanity as a whole resists this realization. It is only open to and known by the truly elect within a society. Humanity is for the most part still dominated by an unyielding law of self-destruction that rules in all realms of being, organic as well as inorganic. Knowledge and experience of the archdaimonic principle embodied in Saturn can, however, free the initiate from the laws of cause and effect. In other terms, man can liberate himself from his own karma. [44] Beyond the moral aspects of this, these ideas are also useful in formulating a notion of how Saturnian magic works. It is the progression of the individual beyond the threshold—beyond the barrier—in order to become separate from the internal, objective cosmos. In theory, the Aquarian Age, the aeon of Saturn, should be manifest first and foremost within the magically elect.

Ttb, most of this goes right over my head. I am aware of this info but I feel there is little point for me to discuss it further.

The influence of the coming Aquarian Age is being guided by the Demiurge Saturnus, which is in turn being transformed through Uranian influence. The present, fading Piscean Age is (was) ruled by Jupiter, under the hidden influence of Neptune. The Neptunian influence is thought to be exercising tremendous force at the close of the Piscean Age in the area of politics; hence the upsurge in collectivistic and communistic ideals. This tide will, however, suddenly turn, and this influx will be destroyed by the surging Uranian power. According to Saturnian teachings, the confusion of today's world is mainly due to the convergence of the two competing and conflicting aeonic streams, the incoming Aquarian and the outgoing Piscean. It will be up to the emerging Saturno-Uranian spirit and its elect to bring a new order out of this chaos. In this process the old nature of Saturn is undergoing a transformation as well. It is becoming more "spiritual," while at the same time it retains its basic quality of stability and solidity. The synthesis of these qualities leads to a powerful balance in which the powers of the spirit are directed and manifested in exacting, precise ways which are as yet unheard of. [45]

Ah I missed this part, I've explained something similar in my own above post response.

In the Saturnian view, there does seem, to be sure, a dark side of the Age of Aquarius. Based on some fairly objectively interpreted astrological teachings, it could be concluded that the Aquarian Age will only appear to be one of rational and humanitarian egalitarianism. The Saturno-Uranian reality looming behind this world of appearances will be one of an enlightened system of control by a ruling elite—the final reign of the Illuminati."

We will move into the age of Capricorn in another 2 in half thousand years. Saturn rules Capricorn. Also bear in mind, that since we are now facing the Galactic sun and moving into a new Galactic day. Our position in the Zodiac and heavenly realm will remain in the light for another 12,000 years. So the dark ages have ended now. Everything in our solar system will shift to a higher frequency for this time.

Torakx

Or maybe all that star sign stuff is the mechanism of control aswell.
Think about a new world order planned AGES ago.
At some stage the masses need to feel they overame something big.
The age of enlightenment sounds very much like the age of Lucifer.

Il take my own enlightenment, i dont need other people to tell me my potential will come because the stars say so.
I say so

The awakening of mankind through the "truth movement" and so on is nothing more to me than the mechanism of control for the next 2500 years...if earth is still around then.
How else would we have gotten this "secret" knowledge.

Aquarius34

Torakx wrote: »

Or maybe all that star sign stuff is the mechanism of control aswell.
Think about a new world order planned AGES ago.
At some stage the masses need to feel they overame something big.
The age of enlightenment sounds very much like the age of Lucifer.

No it's not, it's just the cycles of the Zodiac, it's not used for control because no one can control the cycles of the galaxy and the Universe.

Enlightenment is a fraud however and the NWO one world religion is.

Il take my own enlightenment, i dont need other people to tell me my potential will come because the stars say so.
I say so

It's not like that at all. The stars and bodies in the universe all effects us whether we are aware of it or not and even if we like it or not. Astrology is the study of stars and the movement of our solar system around the Zodiac. That's all it is.

The awakening of mankind through the "truth movement" and so on is nothing more to me than the mechanism of control for the next 2500 years...if earth is still around then.
How else would we have gotten this "secret" knowledge.

The awakening is your own journey, enlightenment is about control yes. There is a difference here.The knowledge isn't secret, the knowledge is used to get the elite and the Freemasons ahead of the rest of us because they know how to work with the Universe to help them get ahead.

Torakx

I dissagree wholly with the idea that they have special information about the universe.
I believe for now, this is put out to people so that we think they are all powerfull.And so we will back down and consider thwem better than us.

Really the elites are nothing more than bored privileged aristocrats with nothing to preoccupy their minds but taking and using percieved power over other groups of people.

I wont be giving them that power.
A soldier might or a garda or the courts and legal system, but not me.
They have this power because people think they are untouchable and its gotten so out of hand they have an invisible wall of propoganda to protect them now.
If everyone thinks they are better, then in those respects they become better by our admission.
You should be fighting to show people they are just psychotic humans with inherited control and when they are cut open that blue blood turns red just like ours..
This would help to limit their influence if more people did so.
Whether that is true or not is besides the point.
Its about regular people giving up.

Why argue about the universe when right here on earth these guys are killing millions.
The answer is not some universal solution, its not going to come with the new age....unless people wake up and take control of their lives together.

My 2cents anyway.
I just think its irrelevant about the coming age.
We cant change it and just sitting and waiting is a great way to let those guys get ahead.
Convienent..

Aquarius34

Torakx wrote: »

I dissagree wholly with the idea that they have special information about the universe.
I believe for now, this is put out to people so that we think they are all powerfull.And so we will back down and consider thwem better than us.

You are totally missing the point. The information they hold and use is not "special". They use knowledge to help them get ahead and they use it against the rest of us by dumbing us down and keeping us ignorant to knowledge. For example the Occult means hidden knowledge. Yet when the average Joe, hears the word "occult" he automatically becomes rattled and starts to get uneasy because he doesn't know what it is but assumes its something dark or tabboo for people who must be witches or warlocks. Humankind of been kept ignorant to knowledge for thousands of years. That is what my point is. The elite use the occult to carry out their agendas plain in sight. While we on the other hand live a life of distraction and chaos. We are living in a world that that is thirsty for knowledge, because the few are drinking it all up.

They use all the knowledge they can, while we are trapped in the illusionary world that is literally a never ending time loop or hell on Earth.

Really the elites are nothing more than bored privileged aristocrats with nothing to preoccupy their minds but taking and using percieved power over other groups of people .

I wont be giving them that power.
A soldier might or a garda or the courts and legal system, but not me.
They have this power because people think they are untouchable and its gotten so out of hand they have an invisible wall of propoganda to protect them now.
If everyone thinks they are better, then in those respects they become better by our admission.

I don't give the elite power, but I certainly know what their game is, what they do and what they're up too. Just because I am aware of it, doesn't mean I am giving them power. In fact it means I am giving myself power by been aware and in charge of my own life and actions.

The fact is, they do control the planet, control all the decisions and rule here. This is so, because we are in the dark so to speak about reality and everything around us.

You should be fighting to show people they are just psychotic humans with inherited control and when they are cut open that blue blood turns red just like ours..
This would help to limit their influence if more people did so.
Whether that is true or not is besides the point.
Its about regular people giving up.

Believe me I do. lol..

Why argue about the universe when right here on earth these guys are killing millions.
The answer is not some universal solution, its not going to come with the new age....unless people wake up and take control of their lives together.

My 2cents anyway.
I just think its irrelevant about the coming age.
We cant change it and just sitting and waiting is a great way to let those guys get ahead.
Convienent..

Fighting them is good, but you also have to be smart about it. You also have to be mindful with your own mind. You have to wise with the moves you make. You have to watchful of the steps you take, the actions you make and you have to be prepared for hell to come your way for it. It's a battle and it has been a very long battle here on Earth that goes back an awful long time

The only things you can change is yourself, not them. You can't change if you're not first aware and not know what you need to change in yourself. You have to start with awareness and the change must come from you.

The elite will do what they do, no matter what.
What's important is, what you do with your choices. That's the only priority here. I made the point about been aware. I am aware of what the elite are up to. But I don't let it bring me down. I don't need to always fight them. I just see myself as been wiser, for taking control of my own life and doing what I need to do.

Torakx

Aquarius34 wrote: »

You are totally missing the point. The information they hold and use is not "special". They use knowledge to help them get ahead and they use it against the rest of us by dumbing us down and keeping us ignorant to knowledge. For example the Occult means hidden knowledge. Yet when the average Joe, hears the word "occult" he automatically becomes rattled and starts to get uneasy because he doesn't know what it is but assumes its something dark or tabboo for people who must be witches or warlocks. Humankind of been kept ignorant to knowledge for thousands of years. That is what my point is. The elite use the occult to carry out their agendas plain in sight. While we on the other hand live a life of distraction and chaos. We are living in a world that that is thirsty for knowledge, because the few are drinking it all up.

They use all the knowledge they can, while we are trapped in the illusionary world that is literally a never ending time loop or hell on Earth.

I agree 100%, this is how I have felt for many years.

Aquarius34 wrote: »

I don't give the elite power, but I certainly know what their game is, what they do and what they're up too. Just because I am aware of it, doesn't mean I am giving them power. In fact it means I am giving myself power by been aware and in charge of my own life and actions.

The fact is, they do control the planet, control all the decisions and rule here. This is so, because we are in the dark so to speak about reality and everything around us.

Ok we are crossing wires is all.
My issue I think is the way you are presenting your theories to readers.
I understand occult is synonymous with hidden or secretive.
Most people do think of it in the "traditional" sense.
But for the sake of readers not in the know, this should be clearly explained.
I often have to write twice as much text for this very reason in many of my posts.
The thing is, these elites dont hold this occult knowledge anymore.
Its well out of the bag since the internet came along, If one can find it through rivers of sh1te lol

But I believe I was writing about occult knowlege of the universe when saying it is not a factor in this reality for now anyway.

The elite use mind control in many forms and also other mechanics like the fiat currency scam and tax etc etc
We are mostly in agreement here I believe.
This is knowledge anyone can get with a bit of research.They are all just being kept busy trying to feed their families to bother trying to learn whats going on.And will continue to do so until they are slowly boiled alive(metaphorically speaking ..I hope)

Aquarius34 wrote: »

Fighting them is good, but you also have to be smart about it. You also have to be mindful with your own mind. You have to wise with the moves you make. You have to watchful of the steps you take, the actions you make and you have to be prepared for hell to come your way for it. It's a battle and it has been a very long battle here on Earth that goes back an awful long time

The only things you can change is yourself, not them. You can't change if you're not first aware and not know what you need to change in yourself. You have to start with awareness and the change must come from you.

The elite will do what they do, no matter what.
What's important is, what you do with your choices. That's the only priority here. I made the point about been aware. I am aware of what the elite are up to. But I don't let it bring me down. I don't need to always fight them. I just see myself as been wiser, for taking control of my own life and doing what I need to do.

My concern is not for myself.I have been through hell and back again many times now ^^
If we are already aware of the agenda, then our concern might be to inform others in a clear and understandable manor, that helps them digest the information with the least amount of indigestion..more metaphors lol

Writing about the elites having occult knowledge without clear explanation will lead many to think you mean they have magic powers and are using spells on us.
Which leads them to believe you are crazy or trolling and they are none the wiser.
While i would love to let loose as you do, I have learned that people are SOOOOOOOOO far from my views on politics and reality in general that I must go very very slowly to ease them into the simplest of explanations.


Consider everyone around you on the street as part of a cult if it helps.They will freak out if you call them on their view of reality.

While you are possibly correct in all your theories, its moot if you fail to empart that knowledge correctly onto others.
Unless you plan to just save yourself or whatever the plan is.
Mine is to enjoy my years and hopefully die in a great big cloud of marijuana smoke at the age of 80+

Where we differ in oppinion might be the awakening part.
I believe the "new age movement" and/or "the truth movement" are lead for the most part by the "opposition".
Basically anyone(or a majority at least) who becomes famous and is still speaking out against the NWO etc etc is a sham and there to make sure you hear only a certain amount of truth.

Others will put in so much information that may not be applicable right now(aliens amongst us) that people either run away screaming "crazy" or jump in head first and forget that the blue bloods bleed red blood just like us and are not supernatural.Just greedy sick people with serious neurotic conditions.

I dont see the coming age as anything special, unless we decide to give it that power.
It is being given that power by the new age movement.
Saying we will be enlightened and will awaken and be free.
Its all boll0x imo.
Another trap like religion of the ages past, to enslave peoples minds into a global consciousness, thinking they are taking freedom, while slowly walking right into the next phase of enslavement to this system.
Just because it has a nice pretty neon sign and seems great does not make it true.
Satan was the(or one of the) most beautiful of gods creatures after all.

Lets keep people focussed on what they CAN believe and CAN see.
The age of aquarius isnt going anywhere fast, but the elite are fricking racing towards centralisation of power, because if they dont, the system they spent so long setting up will collapse in on itself.
There is only so long left they can keep printing an inflating currency before it is useless as an IOU.Wel its already useless but people still have faith in it...now thats a major LOL that scam.

Anyway I have waffled enough.
Final conclusion from me on this post, is the age of aquarius is coming if we like it or not.
It is us who decides how it will be, and if things keep going, I am pretty sure TV will dictate what that is in our dreams.

Aliens, stars aligning to awaken our lost selves etc etc... its a pipe dream that might happen, but I really would rather set that aside and let it happen while doing something substantial.
People wont rise up for a cause they cannot touch or see or hear.
If you want to convert or awaken, I think finding an anchor is most important first then slowly introduce ideas that fit the current framework or come close enough to slide in.
Otherwise you get the "digging in situation".

If i told you in a forcefull manor aliens do not exist at all fullstop.
You will dig in on your stance.
If I approach it and say Aliens are quite possible, if only we could get some solid proof, I can at least get some rapport and work from there.

NLP is one secret/occult info all people need to understand.

Torakx

SoulandForm wrote: »

Very interesting and fits very well....

http://www.american-buddha.com/nazi.fireiceflower.2.htm#The_Dark_Side_of_the_Aquarian_Age

"The strict doctrines concerning cosmic aeons (from Greek aion, age) have their origin in Gnostic teachings of the early centuries of our era. This concept, although it had a certain magical role in ancient times, became enormously important with the magical work of Aleister Crowley following 1904. The FS, inspired by Crowley and by the current astrological speculations concerning the dawn of a New Age of Aquarius, developed its own aeonic philosophy. It is essential to understand this philosophy if the whole work of the Brotherhood is to be grasped.

The ancient Gnostic sects of the Mediterranean and Near Eastern regions held that the aeons were the emanations of God. These emanations descended from the fullness (pleroma) of God's light into the darkness. Aeons are made up of an array of elements, the archons that rule them, the angels (Greek aggeloi, messengers) that provide for their dynamic interaction with the cosmos, the "reasons" (Greek logoi, or "words"), etc. In Gnostic practice these aeons were seen as barriers through which the initiate would have to pass after death until he gained the pleroma. In actual Gnostic teaching, then, an aeon is a phenomenon of time/ space. [42] The Earth may pass though "ages" ruled over by archons ("rulers") of astrologically determined periods of time, but the individual soul of a man must also pass through the barriers of the aeon in order to return to the light. So much for the ancient doctrine.

In Cairo, Egypt, Aleister Crowley received the text of a book dictated to him by a praeternatural entity identified as Aiwass or Aiwaz. This happened in 1904, and from that time on Crowley began to preach the advent of a new aeon, the Aeon of Horus, which in turn superceded the Aeons of Isis and Osiris. It is clear that Crowley understood himself as an agent and an indespensable element of this new aeon, the Word of the Aeon made flesh. From that point he was to function as a Magus (although he was not to claim that grade until 1915), and as the Utterer of an Aeonic Word. Theoretically, it became his task and his curse to attempt to articulate this Word, which is (Thelema), the True Will. In this the Great Beast had synthesized the old Gnostic idea of a natural progression of the aeonic rulers on Earth and the idea of a godlike intervention from above, exemplified in the Gnostic Christology.

Crowley had conjured a new way of magical thinking with his aeonic formulation, and it was one that struck a few responsive cords. Gregor A. Gregorius accepted the advent of the aeonic current of Thelema but did not accept Crowley's system (A...A... or O.T.O.), nor his authority in non-aeonic matters. In 1948 Crowley's own disciple, Charles Stansfield Jones (Frater Achad), claimed to have uttered a new Word superceding that of Thelema. Achad's Word was supposedly Ma-Ion or Ma'at—the Egyptian goddess of truth and justice. All this turned out rather badly, as Jones ended his days in obscurity and insanity.

Of course, many hold to orthodox notions of "aeonic questions" pronounced more or less clearly by Aleister Crowley, while others even attempt to work with Achad's formulation. The dynamic understanding of the Setian Xeper, as continually articulated by its Magus, provides a more individuated and clearly articulated aeonic pathway than any of the previous attempts to work with such "Aeonic Words." In any event, some perspective on these aeonic concepts cannot be ignored when one is trying to understand the history of magical thinking in twentieth-century Western tradition. In the FS the advent of the new aeon is seen first and foremost in astrological terms. It is the equivalent of the Age of Aquarius, ruled by the planetary archon Saturnus. The role of the Master Therion's Aeonic Word seems to be of secondary importance. What might be of widespread interest is the magico-astrological insight into the fact that the Aquarian Age will be one ultimately ruled by the dark Saturno-Uranian archon or demiurge.

The cosmosophy of the FS is dependent on the natural procession of the equinoxes into the sign of Aquarius, which as a sign of the zodiac is traditionally said to be ruled by the planet Saturn. With the discovery of trans-Saturnian planets, and after astrology had synthesized them into its system, the planet Uranus was also said to rule this sign. This physical event, as well as the other astrophysical phenomena taking place in the cosmos and more particularly within our solar system, are reflections of metaphysical events occurring simultaneously with the physical ones. The same can be said for the birth of the solar system, and its eventual entropic collapse.

Although it is stated that "every age or epoch contains within itself the power necessary to its own fulfillment," [43] humanity as a whole resists this realization. It is only open to and known by the truly elect within a society. Humanity is for the most part still dominated by an unyielding law of self-destruction that rules in all realms of being, organic as well as inorganic. Knowledge and experience of the archdaimonic principle embodied in Saturn can, however, free the initiate from the laws of cause and effect. In other terms, man can liberate himself from his own karma. [44] Beyond the moral aspects of this, these ideas are also useful in formulating a notion of how Saturnian magic works. It is the progression of the individual beyond the threshold—beyond the barrier—in order to become separate from the internal, objective cosmos. In theory, the Aquarian Age, the aeon of Saturn, should be manifest first and foremost within the magically elect.

The influence of the coming Aquarian Age is being guided by the Demiurge Saturnus, which is in turn being transformed through Uranian influence. The present, fading Piscean Age is (was) ruled by Jupiter, under the hidden influence of Neptune. The Neptunian influence is thought to be exercising tremendous force at the close of the Piscean Age in the area of politics; hence the upsurge in collectivistic and communistic ideals. This tide will, however, suddenly turn, and this influx will be destroyed by the surging Uranian power. According to Saturnian teachings, the confusion of today's world is mainly due to the convergence of the two competing and conflicting aeonic streams, the incoming Aquarian and the outgoing Piscean. It will be up to the emerging Saturno-Uranian spirit and its elect to bring a new order out of this chaos. In this process the old nature of Saturn is undergoing a transformation as well. It is becoming more "spiritual," while at the same time it retains its basic quality of stability and solidity. The synthesis of these qualities leads to a powerful balance in which the powers of the spirit are directed and manifested in exacting, precise ways which are as yet unheard of. [45]

In the Saturnian view, there does seem, to be sure, a dark side of the Age of Aquarius. Based on some fairly objectively interpreted astrological teachings, it could be concluded that the Aquarian Age will only appear to be one of rational and humanitarian egalitarianism. The Saturno-Uranian reality looming behind this world of appearances will be one of an enlightened system of control by a ruling elite—the final reign of the Illuminati."

Soulform, can you translate this?
Or give a rough summary of what this might indicate in reality if anythng.

I understood alot of it, but putting it all together isnt so easy.
How does this relate to Freemasons for example?
You might know I have currently an interest in that topic

SoulandForm

Torakx wrote: »

Soulform, can you translate this?
Or give a rough summary of what this might indicate in reality if anythng.

I understood alot of it, but putting it all together isnt so easy.
How does this relate to Freemasons for example?
You might know I have currently an interest in that topic

Basically it is saying that the Age of Aquarius will not be a fluffy love in but an age under the tight control of "Enlightened masters" who will wield immense control over the masses according to Freemasonic teaching. The Brotherhood of Saturn is a very high and serious Freemasonic order.

Freemasonry varies in its seriousness- in some places it really is just men escaping the wife to get drunk without the hoi polloi you find in pubs.

Torakx

I dont think I am familiar with The Brotherhood of Saturn.
Is it an official group or a sort of myth from back in the day?
I wouldnt be apposed to more links or info on it too.

Maybe ways in which its evident they are still active and what they are doing now etc.

SoulandForm

No its an actual group that started in the 1920s. Its based exclusively in German speaking countries. One of their members was behind the famous German expressionist film Nosferatu. They accepted Aliester Crowley's "Book of the Law" but were not Crowleyan as such. The link I posted is to the only book on them in English.

Torakx wrote: »

I dont think I am familiar with The Brotherhood of Saturn.
Is it an official group or a sort of myth from back in the day?
I wouldnt be apposed to more links or info on it too.

Maybe ways in which its evident they are still active and what they are doing now etc.

Torakx

If I remember right, Crowley's agenda was to usher in the return of the...
I cant rememer the name.
I remember though in the bible(or my ex cults rendition of the story) there is a symbolic "city" in heaven.
Gods city/kingdom or something like this, im very rusty.
It could travel in all directions and the name for the shape sounded like tetrehedron or something.Maybe im mixing stuff up.
This was all looked into back in 2008 or so.

Anyway, after getting into CT's I discovered that some people believe this is represented by the capstone of the pyramid and that it will return heralding a new kingdom.
Gods kingdom im guessing C.T Russel spoke about.
But the alternate view would be Satans kingdom represented by this here on earth.

“And the city lies foursquare, and the length is as large as the breadth: and he measured the city with the reed, twelve thousand furlongs [about 1,500 miles]. The length and the breadth and the height of it are equal. And he measured the wall thereof, an hundred and forty and four cubits, according to the measure of a man, that is [which is that], of the angel.

• Revelation 21:16–17

http://www.askelm.com/doctrine/d990501.htm

Just a quick google, to try find an example from the bible.
This is something I studied indepth as a JW using their Revelation book along with the bible.
Most of it was over my head at the time because I was in a trance like state during meetings.
Basically bored off my t1ts and just wanted to go home.

But I bring this up because C.T Russel was into alot of similar stuff to Crowley.
Egyptology especially was his thing.

Do you think this Brotherhood have beliefs based around this stuff?

The Jerusalem in heaven that they want to bring to earth.

Also do you know what their agenda is right now?
As in what they are up to literally in the world to further their agenda.


Whats funny about the JW's is that most likely none of them in the organisation will see this stuff.
If they did they could never tell anyone else about it, for fear of reprisal and stigma.
As soon as apostate material or anything negative pops up, its like a firewall kicks in and they shutdown.
The stuff I am writing now would be considered on par with siding with the devil and it could be dangerous to even read this stuff.
It would be like opening a portal for demons to enter your house if you read this online at home.And if you read it on a portable device, you wouldnt want to bring that home either just in case.
Im not even exaggerating in the sightest.
Just an interesting thought I wanted to share lol
Not important, only as a warning to others reading this.
Also an interesting anecdote that shows how much of a Uturn I have pulled haha.