stuck between two recruitment agencies

rude awakening

looking for some advice folks
Two recruitment agencies called me yesterday about the same job.
I didnt let on that i had already received a call, i assumed if there were two agencies trying to get me the job, id be in a better position.
Anyhow, got a call from one today saying she has been advised that an agency has already put me through. I played dumb to this.
Now the agency that couldnt put me through wants me to hand over the info of the other agency.
Their being quite forceful in their request, but im just thinking to myself "i just want a job, why all the fighting??"

All advice acepted.
Regards
RA

Green Mile

You are only a client of theirs. You don't have to give them thatinformation. You don't even have to give them your address so do what iscomfortable for you.

They are being bullyish as recruitment agency’s are in a very competitiveenvironment.

Green Mile

damn space bar

Seifer

rude awakening wrote: »

looking for some advice folks
Two recruitment agencies called me yesterday about the same job.
I didnt let on that i had already received a call, i assumed if there were two agencies trying to get me the job, id be in a better position.

That's a weird assumption. Do you send two CV's when applying for jobs independently?

Pick one agency and let them handle it.

i71jskz5xu42pb

rude awakening wrote: »

All advice acepted.

Grow a pair.

The agency that couldn't put you through thinks that the other agency submitted your CV to the company without your knowledge. They are going to call that agency and/or the employer and read the riot act. They think they've been playing by the rules and have been done out of a commission. If I were an agent in their shoes I'd do the same thing. If you'd man up and just tell them that you let two agencies put your CV forward that'd be the end of it.

Green Mile

Sawyer Early Squabble wrote: »

Grow a pair.
If you'd man up and just tell them that you let two agencies put your CV forward that'd be the end of it.

The op doesn't have to do anything. It's not the OP's battle and the op would not benefit from any input at all

i71jskz5xu42pb

Green Mile wrote: »

The op doesn't have to do anything. It's not the OP's battle and the op would not benefit from any input at all

Agree, he does not have to do anything. But if he acts the clown with an agency he probably should not come whining here with "i just want a job, why all the fighting??"

Green Mile

Sawyer Early Squabble wrote: »

Agree, he does not have to do anything. But if he acts the clown with an agency he probably should not come whining here with "i just want a job, why all the fighting??"

I agree with you but if the agency is being forceful to obtain information.The op shouldn't proceed with an agency like that from the offset. Who knows how difficult they'd be down the line if they become employed by the agancy.

(*OP could be a she)

D1stant

Sawyer Early Squabble wrote: »

Grow a pair.

The agency that couldn't put you through thinks that the other agency submitted your CV to the company without your knowledge. They are going to call that agency and/or the employer and read the riot act. They think they've been playing by the rules and have been done out of a commission. If I were an agent in their shoes I'd do the same thing. If you'd man up and just tell them that you let two agencies put your CV forward that'd be the end of it.

No they are not. They are just acting tough - tell them to p1ss off OP. If they complain to the employer they will be blacklisted by them


99% of Agencies provide zero value. Fact

Mrs OBumble

D1stant wrote: »

99% of Agencies provide zero value. Fact

Link please? Or it's only an opinion, and one that is contradicted by many people's experience - including that of all the employers who keep paying them!



OP, you need to cop the f*** on: don't ever try to play agencies off between each other. You put them in difficult positions with employers, you may cause them to lose out of commission - and if they find out, they will blacklist you. And don't assume that it doesn't matter: it's a small country, they are likely to find out - and many of the agencies are linked, ie one company, one office, multiple brands (eg CPL, Multi-flex, Flexi-source ... all the one big happy family).

Let me spell out the rules for you:

When you agree to let an agent put your CV through - you need to not have any other agent put your CV through until the first one tells you that you were unsuccessful. If, for whatever reason, you don't want the first agenct who calls to put you forward - then just tell them "no", and wait for others to call (or you call them).

And if you just want a job and don't want agency hassle - say "no" to all of them. But be aware that you'd be cutting yourself out of being considered for a lot of jobs.

Your best bet, right now, is to pretend that you don't even know who put your CV through, and stick to that line.

D1stant

Mrs OBumble wrote: »

Link please? Or it's only an opinion, and one that is contradicted by many people's experience - including that of all the employers who keep paying them!

Its an opinion. Or only an opinion as you say

I dont have a link. Not everything useful has a link, not every link is useful. Its my experience of 20 years dealing with them as an employer and employee

If your an employer agencies can bring you suitable pre-vetted people. Some a very small percentage (1% in my opinion) do this very well. If youre a job searcher with a good network agencies are not worth it IMHO

tony81

rude awakening wrote: »

looking for some advice folks
Two recruitment agencies called me yesterday about the same job.
I didnt let on that i had already received a call, i assumed if there were two agencies trying to get me the job, id be in a better position.

Idiotic logic i'm afraid.

Sounds like you blew it with both agencies.

Also, the employer will want nothing to do with you for creating such confusion and hassle.

Well done!

Mrs OBumble

D1stant wrote: »

Its an opinion. Or only an opinion as you say

Please don't put the word "fact" after opinions.

rude awakening

Seifer wrote: »

That's a weird assumption. Do you send two CV's when applying for jobs independently?
Pick one agency and let them handle it.

No Seifer i dont send two CV's. They both saw my profile on Irishjobs and called me.

Mrs OBumble wrote: »

Let me spell out the rules for you:
When you agree to let an agent put your CV through - you need to not have any other agent put your CV through until the first one tells you that you were unsuccessful. If, for whatever reason, you don't want the first agenct who calls to put you forward - then just tell them "no", and wait for others to call (or you call them).

Understand that now Mrs OBumble, just didn't know there was that much competition between them all.

tony81 wrote: »

Idiotic logic i'm afraid.

Thats exactly what it was Tony
Just one of these spur of the mement decisions that seem like a great idea at the time, but in reality screw up your chances

monkeypants

If neither agency tells you anything about the role other than the generic requirements, not the name of the company, I don't see how you can target your application more. I certainly had that problem when applying for roles years ago.

Stheno

Agencies will as a general rule ask candidates if another agency has contacted them about a particular role.

If they didn't they were stupid. If they did and OP lied/omitted to tell them the truth then they have been a little careless

JustAThought

I lost a chance at a great job because an agency advertised it; I applied to the agency ; did agency interview; told I was great ; waited & waited- called- the usual non responses - finally called the company & they told me in shock that they hadn't contracted an agency to look for them at all. Horrified. Deadline past - opportunity gone.

Same thing happened with an NGO job - couldn't believe it - agency fudging for weeks - rang company directly - again - job hadn't been sent to contract externally with RC's.

If I were you I'd get onto the company & ask who they have the contract for recruiting for the role with . Then deal with them. Of course the RC might be just trawling for CVs & petitioning companies to get a cut for " recruiting" for them - ie searching a database . Happens all the time. Of course the RCs will deny this blindly. Read the complaints against RC thread - up way past a thousand complaints now...

Of course the recruiters will make out you're imagining , lost your chance etcetc - but then again they trade people off each other for a living & are pressure sales people, who work off commission for a living. Up there with car dealers & politicians IMO.

Jim2007

rude awakening wrote: »

looking for some advice folks
Two recruitment agencies called me yesterday about the same job.
I didnt let on that i had already received a call, i assumed if there were two agencies trying to get me the job, id be in a better position.
Anyhow, got a call from one today saying she has been advised that an agency has already put me through. I played dumb to this.
Now the agency that couldnt put me through wants me to hand over the info of the other agency.
Their being quite forceful in their request, but im just thinking to myself "i just want a job, why all the fighting??"

All advice acepted.
Regards
RA

You don't have to tell them anything, but you should be aware that this kind of thing can cause problems for the client - they don't want to be in the middle of this kind of argument and it does not put you in a good light.

Our HR department bin all such applicants, as they do not want to be involved in arguments with the agencies over who should get the commission... There are plenty of other applicants so why should they bother with the continuous ones!

Green Mile

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Martymcd83

I did exactly the same as the OP only this time last year. Again the same logic of "i'll throw my CV out to as many as possible and see what happens"

At the end up i lost the confidence of both agencies plus the Hiring company didn't want to get into an argument over who was to recieve the Commission ergo i didn't even get an Interview!

FUBAR is the word i would use.

Look it happens, the only advise i would give is to pick on agency and stick with them. Apologise to the other one of course and explain the situation.

Honesty sometimes is the best policy!