New mix. I'd appreciate another pair of ears

pinksoir

Post Geographical Orientalism:

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/4447157/Post%20Geographical%20Orientalism.mp3

I'm pretty happy with the mix, probably the best I've done yet. First verse vocals could be better performance wise but otherwise I reckon it's ok. It seems to sound good over different speakers (laptop, living room stereo, headphones).

But obviously much room to improve, so I'd appreciate any input.

Cheers.

Wicklowandy

Im certainly no expert, but that is well layered and structured.

Well done, thank you:)

peter05

Fair amount of sibilants on the vocal. Check your 8khz area.

pinksoir

Cheers dudes.

@peter05: I've cut quite a lot from there already (6k and 8k), but I hear what you're talking about just at the start. I think it's more from the performance/mic than an EQ thang, it's not so much of a problem later on in the track is it?

peter05

Yea,if it's cut already it's bad technique from the vocals and mic selection. It's pretty much there through the track. If you desse it more it will take a lot of the life from the vocals. You prob need to get into the wave form and automate those sections. Hours of fun.

pinksoir

Ah, I can just re record the vocal!

peter05

You lucky duck.:)

pinksoir

I'm just thinking... The sibilants might be coming from my processing of the vocal. If I stuck up some dry vocal track and then the processed one, would you mind having a look? It's quite heavily compressed.

peter05

Fire ahead.I'll take a listen.

pinksoir

Thanks a million. Very much appreciated. I am noticing the sibilants a lot more now, especially when solo'd.

Here they are:

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/4447157/PGO%20Vox%20dry.mp3

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/4447157/PGO%20Vox%20processed.mp3

peter05

It's on the dry one. When processed it is brought forward more.

pinksoir

Cheers. Technique, proximity, or microphone?

peter05

Have a listen to him acoustically if it is still there it is the technique. Just try him with a different mic.

pinksoir

Well it's me so I can't listen to myself! The mic I use is an AT2020. I find it ok, but difficult to work with. I've worked on a load of other much more expensive mics (in studios) and not had many problems, which leads me to blame the mic. Though, that said, I'm singing quite softly which obviously accentuates things like saliva, lip smacks and sibilants. Part of why I'm doing that is because I don't like the tone of the mic. I find it quite 'reedy', thin and bright. So singing softer helps put a bit more body back in...

Thanks a mil for the input btw, it helps a lot.

peter05

you could get away with side-chaining your compressor to EQ, control the dynamic in that area won't jump out at you so much. Don't use a multiband to compress it though you prob not get nice crossovers in that area.

pinksoir

Thanks, I shall give that a go.

i57dwun4yb1pt8

apaert form the vocal spitting as already said

its very nice - sounds so 60's fair play to get that sound ) i hope it was deliberate

pinksoir

Thanks very much. I was going for that massive Motown sound. It's difficult enough but actually a good mixing work out for learning how to get all the instruments to sit right and blend in. Less is more, apparently.