Is it 1984 - BB is watching you

Mossess

I heard an advert this morning on Newstalk from a car insurance company or broker saying that if you’re a younger driver and you can prove that you’re a safe driver you can get a 30% discount.

Would I be correct in saying that there is some form of tracking device installed in the driver’s car?

Please say I’m wrong.

There is no way I could be right on that is there? Does Ireland not have any civil liberties groups? Am I the only person who thinks this is completely wrong on so many levels?

Please say I misheard it and that I’m wrong

Duggy747

I heard they'll have to insert a black box up your arse.

Where To

I think it's a great idea.

Mossess

Duggy747 wrote: »

I heard they'll have to insert a black box up your arse.

That’s not to inaccurate in fairness...

Crooked Jack

Mossess wrote: »

I heard an advert this morning on Newstalk from a car insurance company or broker saying that if you’re a younger driver and you can prove that you’re a safe driver you can get a 30% discount.

Would I be correct in saying that there is some form of tracking device installed in the driver’s car?

Please say I’m wrong.

There is no way I could be right on that is there? Does Ireland not have any civil liberties groups? Am I the only person who thinks this is completely wrong on so many levels?

Please say I misheard it and that I’m wrong

Dunno about that one specifically but a number of insurance companies do have a box they install in your car to monitor your driving. It's completely optional however and can significantly lower your insurance.

If BB is watching us he's watching me read 1984, 'cause i love that book

smash

Saw this the other day and laughed. Nobody will get that!

Kylo Ren

Duggy747 wrote: »

I heard they'll have to insert a black b cox up your arse.

:O

AnonoBoy

Mossess wrote: »

There is no way I could be right on that is there? Does Ireland not have any civil liberties groups? Am I the only person who thinks this is completely wrong on so many levels?

I don't see how civil liberties comes into it.

I mean you're free not to install the box. It's not compulsory but if you are a younger driver and want to avoid paying more money in insurance (as younger drivers tend to have to do) then you have the choice to do it.

Lux23

If you can prove you never crashed? Or maybe you get a letter from you Mum.

SEPT 23 1989

This will be mandatory in all vehicles in 20 years time

Mossess

When health insurance becomes too expensive would you be willing to wear a collar that monitors everything you do and eat? So you can get a discount? If this carries on who’s to say in time you won’t end up wearing a collar.

JustinDee

Mossess wrote: »

I heard an advert this morning on Newstalk from a car insurance company or broker saying that if you’re a younger driver and you can prove that you’re a safe driver you can get a 30% discount.

Would I be correct in saying that there is some form of tracking device installed in the driver’s car?

Please say I’m wrong.

There is no way I could be right on that is there? Does Ireland not have any civil liberties groups? Am I the only person who thinks this is completely wrong on so many levels?

Please say I misheard it and that I’m wrong

Calm down, kiddo.
The way a driver proves that they are a safe driver is by not ever having any penalty points, any previous claims or any other misdemeanours involving driving a vehicle.

Hobbes

JustinDee wrote: »

Calm down, kiddo.
The way a driver proves that they are a safe driver is by not ever having any penalty points, any previous claims or any other misdemeanours involving driving a vehicle.

You are much too rational to be posting on After Hours.

Where To

SEPT 23 1989 wrote: »

This will be mandatory in all vehicles in 20 years time

I can see it happening, for commercial vehicles only. Private cars will be outlawed by that time.

mickydoomsux

Mossess wrote: »

When health insurance becomes too expensive would you be willing to wear a collar that monitors everything you do and eat? So you can get a discount? If this carries on who’s to say in time you won’t end up wearing a collar.

I have a question for you that I ask all the tinfoil hat brigade:

Why? To what end would 'big brother' care what you do? What's the endgame?

AnonoBoy

Mossess wrote: »

When health insurance becomes too expensive would you be willing to wear a collar that monitors everything you do and eat? So you can get a discount? If this carries on who’s to say in time you won’t end up wearing a collar.

Well they do have, y'know, health checks for people getting medical insurance already. You do know that don't you?

VinLieger

Mossess wrote: »

I heard an advert this morning on Newstalk from a car insurance company or broker saying that if you’re a younger driver and you can prove that you’re a safe driver you can get a 30% discount.

Would I be correct in saying that there is some form of tracking device installed in the driver’s car?

Please say I’m wrong.

There is no way I could be right on that is there? Does Ireland not have any civil liberties groups? Am I the only person who thinks this is completely wrong on so many levels?

Please say I misheard it and that I’m wrong

Welcome to 10 years ago, this has been going on for years and is completely optional.
Go back to analyzing moon landing footage

Czarcasm

Jesus OP that thread title is fairly sensationalist for something that could've gone in the obvious things you only just realised thread.

Insurance companies have been offering this incentive for years. You're not forced to avail of the incentive, but if you want cheaper insurance it also doubles as a way to encourage you to become a safe and responsible driver.

Not to freak you out completely or anything but they've also had speed cameras on the roads for years that take a snapshot of your licence plate if you happen to be exceeding the speed limit.

What I'd actually love to see is technology built into vehicles that monitors your driving and alerts you when it detects you are driving in an unsafe manner such as trying to overtake by crossing a continuous white line.

I know there are cars that drive automatically using GPS technology, but I'd sooner prefer if the person behind the wheel was taught to be more responsible rather than taking that responsibility from them and allowing them to depend completely upon technology to do their thinking for them.

Yellowblackbird

Collars around the neck has no subtlety.
The Lizard People are manipulating us just fine without such crude methods.

oldyouth

For young lads who don't want to be associated with boy racers, it's a great idea. Why would anyone refuse the chance for 30% off your insurance by agreeing to drive sensibly?

Reg'stoy

Have no problem with these boxes, if I was a young fella paying €2500 on insurance and was told I'd save €750 by using one of these; surely it's a no brainer.

Some people won't have them fitted, others will. I don't smoke but for health insurance if requested they can ask for proof, a friend was refused his health insurance because he was too over weight; should he refuse stepping on a scale to show he has lost weight.

Yellowblackbird

First they came for the communists and I didn't speak out because I wasn't a communist.
Then they tried to reduce motor insurance premiums for young male drivers.
Then they had rat burrow through my eye socket in room 101 and there was no one left to speak for me.

1ZRed

That's barebacking for ya. Always watching and tempting you

Crooked Jack

SEPT 23 1989 wrote: »

This will be mandatory in all vehicles in 20 years time

I'll admit that's a bit scary

Crooked Jack

mickydoomsux wrote: »

I have a question for you that I ask all the tinfoil hat brigade:

Why? To what end would 'big brother' care what you do? What's the endgame?

The Party seeks power entirely for its own sake. We are not interested in the good of others; we are interested solely in power. Not wealth or luxury or long life or happiness: only power, pure power. What pure power means you will understand presently.

Power is not a means; it is an end. The object of power, is power.

Mr. CooL ICE

SEPT 23 1989 wrote: »

This will be mandatory in all vehicles in 20 years time

And in 20 years time, all records will show that these boxes were in every car from the beginning of time

Iwasfrozen

Crooked Jack wrote: »

The Party seeks power entirely for its own sake. We are not interested in the good of others; we are interested solely in power. Not wealth or luxury or long life or happiness: only power, pure power. What pure power means you will understand presently.

Power is not a means; it is an end. The object of power, is power.

I love that book but there is a big difference here, the party is one singular power that monitors every aspect of people's lives. That's not the same thing as dozens of separate and in competition firms monitoring one aspect of people's lives.

War is peace
Freedom is slavery
Ignorance is Strength

Crooked Jack

Iwasfrozen wrote: »

I love that book but there is a big difference here, the party is one singular power that monitors every aspect of people's lives. That's not the same thing as dozens of separate and in competition firms monitoring one aspect of people's lives.

War is peace
Freedom is slavery
Ignorance is Strength

I know man, I'll just take any excuse to quote 1984

Mossess

Iwasfrozen wrote: »

I love that book but there is a big difference here, the party is one singular power that monitors every aspect of people's lives. That's not the same thing as dozens of separate and in competition firms monitoring one aspect of people's lives.

War is peace
Freedom is slavery
Ignorance is Strength

All information will have to be openly shared with the Party. If we look back in history we can see where large scale data collections we used in ways never imagined by the population.

MadsL

If I can't shoot rabbits, then I can't shoot fascists. If you tolerate this...

bleg

SEPT 23 1989 wrote: »

This will be mandatory in all vehicles in 20 years time

Passing fad. We'll probably have self driving vehicles in 20 years time.

who the fug

MadsL wrote: »

If I can't shoot rabbits, then I can't shoot fascists. If you tolerate this...

end up with a Lada

CruelCoin

Mossess wrote: »

I heard an advert this morning on Newstalk from a car insurance company or broker saying that if you’re a younger driver and you can prove that you’re a safe driver you can get a 30% discount.

Would I be correct in saying that there is some form of tracking device installed in the driver’s car?

Please say I’m wrong.

There is no way I could be right on that is there? Does Ireland not have any civil liberties groups? Am I the only person who thinks this is completely wrong on so many levels?

Please say I misheard it and that I’m wrong

Someone offers you a chance at the 30% discount and you start yelping about civil liberties?

It's not forced on anyone. And frankly, you have nothing to worry about if you abide by the rules of your deal.
If you agree to not speed in return for a discount, and proceed to then speed, that's a breach of contract and would render your insurance null and void if they found out you'd been speeding at the time of crashing.

It's a way of enforcing the rules on an age group that lies habitually (petulant teenagers, teenage angst, nobody understands me, etc etc).

If you don't want to be tracked then forgoe the discount. Jesus.

Capt'n Midnight

Yellowblackbird wrote: »

Collars around the neck has no subtlety.
The Lizard People are manipulating us just fine without such crude methods.

We already carry personal trackers.

We even pay for the privilege.




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Ruudi_Mentari

Sounds fairly essential to me, such a 'monitor' anyhow it's been 1984 for many years now, but eh only when it pertains to ya have you not been outside your car?

dangerous walking must be a real concern too granted how many cams are about?! I just dont like te idea of some mod type lookin on, with their xl slurpee

Bad Santa

I knew it, I just knew it.

I never liked that BB Baskin one,

Pottler

Where To wrote: »

I can see it happening, for commercial vehicles only. Private cars will be outlawed by that time.

I'm gonna be an Outlaw, I'm gonna be an Outlaw..!! They'll never take me alive.. Hold on, 20 years??? Shyte, I'll be dead, or old....:mad:

BBDBB

I fought the law


and got a 30% discount when I stopped

Pottler

BBDBB wrote: »

I fought the law


and got a 30% discount when I stopped

Feck you, I didn't even get my shot at Outlawdom. I'd bought a biker jacket and everything...

BBDBB

Pottler wrote: »

Feck you, I didn't even get my shot at Outlawdom. I'd bought a biker jacket and everything...

In a recession there is competition for every vacancy, even the outlaws have a waiting list

Magenta

Mossess wrote: »

I heard an advert this morning on Newstalk from a car insurance company or broker saying that if you’re a younger driver and you can prove that you’re a safe driver you can get a 30% discount.

Would I be correct in saying that there is some form of tracking device installed in the driver’s car?

Please say I’m wrong.

There is no way I could be right on that is there? Does Ireland not have any civil liberties groups? Am I the only person who thinks this is completely wrong on so many levels?

Please say I misheard it and that I’m wrong

Run_to_da_hills, is that yooouuuuuuu? :P