Derelict House Big Ideas and Dreams

kganly1989

Hi there, em pretty weird idea Im putting forward but none the less im sure ye can pitch a few ideas, right so there's a derelict house ive had my eye on for a number of years now, to my knowledge its be derelict for the past 8 years and most likely longer than I came about to knowing that due to damage and wear and tear, its a lovely house externally and in a nice estate and its a real shame its been let go so bad, now Im wondering if someone could help me out with a few questions in regards to a few issues,

1. Who do i contact about finding out who owns the house

2. if the house is unlisted and or know living relatives who owns the house and is it possible to purchase.

3.Does anyone know of costs I might incur finding this info out.

4.the house is in pretty to very bad shape, im no expert but it does need alot of work, all the windows have been smashed out, front and back door smashed etc, this house is destroyed inside from rubbish and the elements, so i was wondering what kind of damages/cost would I be looking at in relation to this, its roughly 104.1 Sq. Metres (1,121 Sq. Feet) going by other house's i looked on daft its not an exact figure but its not far off, the roof from what i remember looked in good nick externally anyways but would the lack of heating and open elements do any damage to it. Im sure Id have to get someone to take a proper look at it, because me saying or thinkin its ok structurally might not be a great idea, Given common sense, its still standing and it dosnt seem to have cracks inside or out and the roof looks in good shape to, its pretty much everything else thats in bits

between cost of accruing it legal (or doing the squatting thing, I read some posts about that here and sounds like a 50/50 risk and im a gambling man )

mold removal, new dry wall or plastering, flooring, windows,doors in and out, possibly electrical and plumbing work or a repair, (please note Im not a builder and have just put in the things I think should/need replacing ) anything else i forgot please add,

would a rough and i mean very rough, ball park figure of 20,000euro be very unrealistic either under or over, i've never under taking anything like this, I done handy around the home house, and no a thing or to but something this big would be a huge undertaking and I'd only love to get me hands dirty and get into it, Id be able to do alot of the demo/removal work myself or with help so that should take some cost away, and ive friends electrical and plumbing trade (always a bonus Im quiet confident in myself in doing alot of this work, Ive also like working with my hands and Im not afrid to get dirty and try something new, this has been an idea in my head a while now and i said id get around to asking the question to the experts here, so hopefully someone can lend me some ideas and thoughts, if you've gotten this far thanks for reading my story and hope to hear from you sure

Cheers

sorry forgot to mention the kitchen,bathroom would have to be fitted aswell but id be looking at another proably 10k, so 20000 for maintenance, repairs and cleaning and windows+doors and 10k extra for kitchen bathroom etc

A fella called fish

Perhaps someone else can answer the other questions, but there may not be much point if your budget is only €20k and the condition is as bad as you suggest.

That equates to €17.85/sq foot to cover professional fees, structural/architectural/mechanical/electrical/cosmetic repairs along withinstallation of new finishes...not going to happen.

Everything is possible, but you need more dollar in my view.

kganly1989

A fella called fish wrote: »

Perhaps someone else can answer the other questions, but there may not be much point if your budget is only €20k and the condition is as bad as you suggest.

That equates to €17.85/sq foot to cover professional fees, structural/architectural/mechanical/electrical/cosmetic repairs along withinstallation of new finishes...not going to happen.

Everything is possible, but you need more dollar in my view.

Cheers for the reply, ah like I said its just a rough guess, would you hazard one yourself? Like I said labour for some not all mind could be done by me and friends and I would have thought that'd be the biggest expense,

Rhys Essien

When was it built,would you know?

Is it a street house or semi d or detatched?

How is the roof looking?.Would it need to be re-roofed?

Could you ask some older neighbours about it?

kganly1989

Rhys Essien wrote: »

When was it built,would you know?

Is it a street house or semi d or detatched?

How is the roof looking?.Would it need to be re-roofed?

Could you ask some older neighbours about it?

Eh built in the late 70's early 80's I think, I actually rang the council to find out more info, just waiting on reply, roof looks ok in my opinion no but then im no, I mean all the tiles are on but would there be damage done to rafters due to wind been able to get into the house due to no windows and or rot? Its a detached house at the end of an estate, hope that's some good info to go on

Rhys Essien

If the roof was bad,it would cost a lot to get it re-roofed.

It will be good to hear what feedback you get from the council.

You would think if a person owned the house that it would be passed on in a will when they died.

And if the council owned it,they would have it well boarded up and that it would not be idle for long.

Let us know what they say.

kganly1989

Rhys Essien wrote: »

If the roof was bad,it would cost a lot to get it re-roofed.

It will be good to hear what feedback you get from the council.

You would think if a person owned the house that it would be passed on in a will when they died.

And if the council owned it,they would have it well boarded up and that it would not be idle for long.

Let us know what they say.

Yeah here's hoping the roof is 100% yeah that's my theory that someone passed away and the house is in limbo at the moment, well I've been in the house and there was signs of boards up or anything but the last time I was there they did have a fence up can't remember if it was bordered up nearly 2years since I saw it, I wonder actually if the council had it looked at because surly if it was a harzard/danger they would have knocked it but like I said to my knowledge is abandoned/empty the last 10years or more

martin46585

You could try looking it up on your county council website, go to the planning section, and by putting in area,address And such details you will find out the applicants name and date of construction......

kganly1989

cheers martin, ill have a look at it now

Mightymouse vs Dangermouse

Just wondering how you hot on inyour search? There are 2 places where i lived for ten years that are just sitting idle and noting happening. Ive heard that after x amount of years, the council simply come and make it theres??
Any way any info would be great.

sydthebeat

Mightymouse vs Dangermouse wrote: »

Just wondering how you hot on inyour search? There are 2 places where i lived for ten years that are just sitting idle and noting happening. Ive heard that after x amount of years, the council simply come and make it theres??
Any way any info would be great.

:P

'adverse possession' laws are very in-depth and convoluted..... what youve said isnt true. Registration of title doesnt just pass to a local authority if a site is derelict for a number of years. The state authority would actually have to have "adverse possession" of the property for 30 years before they could claim ownership.

just wondering why exactly youve asked the above......

Mightymouse vs Dangermouse

because i dont like seeing waste! places go derelict because there is no - one living in them, why not say fcuk it and move in and fix them up?id rather do that than see it become a crackhouse as is whats happening around here or the council taking it and giving it to a few scangers who are related to someone in the council?

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poster infracted for libelous post

be careful what is being posted

sydthebeat

sydthebeat

Mightymouse vs Dangermouse wrote: »

because i dont like seeing waste! places go derelict because there is no - one living in them, why not say fcuk it and move in and fix them up?id rather do that than see it become a crackhouse as is whats happening around here or the council taking it and giving it to a few scangers who are related to someone in the council?

we have derelict site laws in which the owners can be fined for allowing sites remain dilapidated and / or dangerous / unsightly.

the council cannot just "take" control.

tootsy70

I was looking into something like this myself back in 2003 where i knew of a place that was lying derelict for 25 years and no one knew the owners thou there was quite alot of interest in the house from the locals.

I done a land registry search and found the owner of the house which had the solicitors name who dealt with it back then. 'Went and seen the solicitor and asked a few questions, he remembered the sale and turns out it was a french guy who died but didnt leave it in a will. I was actually going to move in and do it up myself before i went to the solicitor and wish i had of now. When asking the solicitor a few questions i asked what would happen if i moved in and tried to claim squatters rights. You have to live in the property for 13 years before you can do this.

Should kick myself now for going to the solicitor because no one would have known anything about it. This was a dream home right on the shore of a well known fishing lake. Drove past it a few months ago and its all done up and liveable



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Mod note: See a solicitor for legal advice as we dont have that on our menu. Cheers

newsunglasses

Ive seen a few derelict houses where i live,they had some scumbags move out from a local city over six years ago,and now its all boarded up and there is cracks on the roof and id say leakages from that when it rains etc.

Its a pity the councils are doing nothing about them - they get money off prsi and property tax,two ways and do nothing about this or fixing potholes in roads.

The least they should do is refurbish them and sell them on to people who are looking for good houses at a reasoanble price.