Which of these 2 Corded SDS drills would you choose (Makita / Bosch Blue)

Prizen

I've narrowed my search down to two drills, of equal price.

1. Bosch Blue


or

2. Makita
http://http://www.parfix.ie/product.php?sp_p=HR2450-240V

Which would you go for and why?

Thanks

wait4me

the links seem to be dead for me.
Edit: http twice - doesn't help!

K.Flyer

Going only by the spec on the links I would be leaning towards the Bosch.
The Bosch has a slightly more powerful motor and higher torque and says it has a safety clutch.
Personally I prefer Milwaukee and in the past Atlas Copco.
(My 2 cents worth)

Prizen

Or
3. this Hitachi

http://www.toolstop.co.uk/hitachi-dh24pc3-sds-plus-hammer-drill-3-mode-240v-p7574

Mostly for wood and a little masonary/concrete work.

K.Flyer

A lot of Hire Shops use Hitachi power tools as they need the reliability. Hitachi have come down in price quite a bit over the last couple of years which makes them more affordable now to the pro DIYer.
I would personally go for the Hitachi, its got a similar spec to the Bosch, but I feel its a better unit.

miller50841

Got to be Hilti all the way for me go onto ebay you will pick up a good second hand one.

Prizen

K.Flyer wrote: »

A lot of Hire Shops use Hitachi power tools as they need the reliability. Hitachi have come down in price quite a bit over the last couple of years which makes them more affordable now to the pro DIYer.
I would personally go for the Hitachi, its got a similar spec to the Bosch, but I feel its a better unit.

Thanks K Flyer. To compliment the Hitachi, what would you get to go with it in terms of a cordless drill?

Should I look at a cordless screwdriver, drill driver, or impact drives?
12V, 14.4V?

DublinDilbert

Prizen wrote: »

Or
3. this Hitachi

http://www.toolstop.co.uk/hitachi-dh24pc3-sds-plus-hammer-drill-3-mode-240v-p7574

Mostly for wood and a little masonary/concrete work.

Bought one in December and find it very good.

It has roto stop mode, which means you can use it with an SDS chisel. First job was to break part of a 6" 50 year old concrete slab to fix a shore. It made light enough work out of it.

K.Flyer

Prizen wrote: »

Thanks K Flyer. To compliment the Hitachi, what would you get to go with it in terms of a cordless drill?

Should I look at a cordless screwdriver, drill driver, or impact drives?
12V, 14.4V?

That depends on what your primary use is and how often.
I have an 18v Hitachi for light drilling and driving still going strong after 3 years of almost everyday use.
If you are doing more driving than anything else e.g. a lot of plywood work then the impact driver is the way to go.
Go for high amps and minimum of two batteries.
Hitachi used to do a drill / driver and impact driver set a few years ago, great units and good value.

jack of all

I have that Bosch drill, it came with a spare keyless chuck for use with standard HSS bits. I find it very good, although I paid considerably more for it at the time. Hammer action on it is very good for light chiseling, occasional use. It's a great price for a professional quality tool- they are some great deals on quality gear out there now.

Prizen

K.Flyer wrote: »

That depends on what your primary use is and how often.
I have an 18v Hitachi for light drilling and driving still going strong after 3 years of almost everyday use.
If you are doing more driving than anything else e.g. a lot of plywood work then the impact driver is the way to go.
Go for high amps and minimum of two batteries.
Hitachi used to do a drill / driver and impact driver set a few years ago, great units and good value.

Please forgive the basic question, but drilling is creating the hole of course, and driving is inserting a screw into a material with no pre drilled hole?

i guess the sds drills that i have already proposed will do these jobs just fine, the downside being that it would be heavy and more awkward? Maybe i don't really need a cordless.
it will be just for weekend diy woodwork projects. What you think?
thanks

K.Flyer

The SDS drills that you are looking at are primarily used for drilling holes into concrete and light chiselling work. Whilst you could use it for woodwork it would be too heavy and cumbersome.
For hobby woodwork and the occasional drilling holes into concrete walls or tiles etc then a good quality cordless hammer action drill / screwdriver would be much better suited.
They are lighter to hold and more compact allowing you to use it almost anywhere.
A good quality high voltage / amp (Ah) unit with two batteries and charger I believe would be more suitable for what you need it for.

Prizen

K.Flyer wrote: »

The SDS drills that you are looking at are primarily used for drilling holes into concrete and light chiselling work. Whilst you could use it for woodwork it would be too heavy and cumbersome.
For hobby woodwork and the occasional drilling holes into concrete walls or tiles etc then a good quality cordless hammer action drill / screwdriver would be much better suited.
They are lighter to hold and more compact allowing you to use it almost anywhere.
A good quality high voltage / amp (Ah) unit with two batteries and charger I believe would be more suitable for what you need it for.

would the cordless drills fit in a drill press adaptor? I have a wolfcraft drill press stand.

I'm assuming i should get a cordless combi drill that has hammer action?

K.Flyer

Prizen wrote: »

would the cordless drills fit in a drill press adaptor? I have a wolfcraft drill press stand.

I would think that some of them will, but I would check them out first by having a good look at them up close before buying.

I'm assuming i should get a cordless combi drill that has hammer action?

That depends on how much of the work is going to be done in the stand.

cheif kaiser

http://www.amazon.co.uk/DeWalt-D25013K-Combi-Hammer-Drill/dp/B003ASPLZI/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1359052247&sr=8-1

jack of all

Something else to consider- it may be better to get a mains powered tool in preference to a cordless tool if the tool will be used infrequently as the batteries need a certain amount of use and "maintenance" to keep them in peak condition.

K.Flyer

Just had a quick look through images of cordless units and I do not think there are many that would be suitable for a drill stand.
Traditional styled corded drills are more suited for drill stands as the body of them has been set up differently, usually with a centre point recessed at the back, the trigger further back for easy reach and where the front grip clamps onto the drill is where the clamp for the stand goes.
If you are going to be doing more drilling from the stand then I would go for the corded unit.