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The Great THQ Sale (i.e not good)

  • 22-01-2013 2:43pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,835 ✭✭✭


    Today, THQ (or it's developers, should nobody elect to buy the entire portfolio) goes under the hammer.

    With many IPs, franchises and developers up for grabs the question I put forward to you guys is; Who do you want to see going where?

    Personally, I want Relic Entertainment to go to Ubisoft/Bethesda/Double Fine/Valve. I do not want to see them being swallowed up by EA/Activision-Blizzard.

    Article on THQ's history and recent downfall...


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,010 ✭✭✭saiint


    ea
    in my opinion


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,167 ✭✭✭Grumpypants


    You have to think the studio's with games almost finished are the best bet. Buy the studio and almost straight away recoup the money from selling the game.

    I feel sorry for the studios like the Saints Row 3 guys who have recently released a game and will need a publisher to buy them and inject what ever ridiculous amount to build SR4. Far less likely, more likely they will buy the IP's and strip the dev teams.


  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 23,352 Mod ✭✭✭✭Kiith


    Someone buy the Homeworld license and make a sequel dammit!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,067 ✭✭✭Gunmonkey


    Kiith wrote: »
    Someone buy the Homeworld license and make a sequel dammit!

    It might happen, dunno what Relic have in the works since CoH2 is out later this year, and it was THQ who had the license with Games Workshop so if whoever buys Relic doesnt get it theres not gonna be a DoW3 from them. So either CoH2 expansions and a third game, Homeworld or a new IP/old RTS IP rejigged for modern age.

    Will be intresting to see who gets what companies, I imagine Relic and Volition (for the Saints Row license) will be the hotly contested grabs.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,274 ✭✭✭Monty - the one and only


    Kiith wrote: »
    Someone buy the Homeworld license and make a sequel dammit!

    there was some mention of this a few days ago... a former homeworld dev stated "who knows what will happen the up comming thq auction"


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  • Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 17,150 Mod ✭✭✭✭cherryghost


    Just bought the Saints Row IP, cheers for the heads up OP. Good bargain. :pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,274 ✭✭✭Monty - the one and only


    I'ld love to see another freepspace... but not sure whether it was voalition or interplay who had the rights for that...:(


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,405 ✭✭✭gizmo


    Sega bids high for Relic Entertainment – rumour

    I approve of this, I can see Relic being a good fit at SEGA, especially based on their handling of Creative Assembly over the years.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,660 ✭✭✭COYVB


    That's a surprise... Sega aren't exactly awash with cash money at the moment


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,575 ✭✭✭NTMK


    gizmo wrote: »
    I approve of this, I can see Relic being a good fit at SEGA, especially based on their handling of Creative Assembly over the years.

    Makes sense too with CA now having the Warhammer licence. If games workshop trust Sega with that then i imagine the 40k license will transfer to sega-relic


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 909 ✭✭✭WildCardDoW


    Worst thing is, it was a poxy kids game that really screwed them over! They produce some quality titles, especially on the PC, and we could lose some of these in the mix!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,573 ✭✭✭✭Frisbee


    Sega, Relic & CA combine and using the GW licence create a Total War style 40k game....

    *drool*


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,405 ✭✭✭gizmo


    SEGA giving them a nice budget for Homeworld 3 would what I'd be hoping for. :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 55,616 ✭✭✭✭Mr E


    http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2013-01-23-thq-auction-rumours-relic-to-sega-volition-saints-row-to-koch-south-park-to-ubisoft

    THQ auction rumours: Relic to Sega, Volition/Saints Row to Koch, South Park to Ubisoft


  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators, Help & Feedback Category Moderators Posts: 25,921 CMod ✭✭✭✭Spear


    Relic employee has said that Sega does own them now:

    https://twitter.com/kyleberndt/status/294166753599164416

    And THQ themselves have given out the list:

    http://kotaku.com/5978429/this-is-the-letter-that-thq-sent-to-employees-today


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,575 ✭✭✭NTMK


    Spear wrote: »
    Relic employee has said that Sega does own them now:

    https://twitter.com/kyleberndt/status/294166753599164416

    And THQ themselves have given out the list:

    http://kotaku.com/5978429/this-is-the-letter-that-thq-sent-to-employees-today


    sad Vigil didnt find a home

    I worry about Volition and Metro because Koch produce some amount of ****


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,351 ✭✭✭✭super_furry


    COYVB wrote: »
    That's a surprise... Sega aren't exactly awash with cash money at the moment

    That Eurogamer article reckons that they have over $2billion in reserves so they must be doing alright.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,640 ✭✭✭Pushtrak


    http://www.gameplanet.co.nz/news/1020911.20130124.THQ-auction-results-Relic-to-Sega-Volition-and-Metro-to-Koch-and-more/

    The proposed sales are as follows :

    Sega agreed to purchase Relic
    Koch Media agreed to purchase Volition and Metro
    Crytek agreed to purchase Homefront
    Take 2 agreed purchase Evolve
    Ubisoft agreed to purchase THQ Montreal and South Park


  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Music Moderators, Regional Midlands Moderators Posts: 24,155 Mod ✭✭✭✭Angron


    Hopefully Sega will keep on the Warhammer games under Relic, that was the big worry for me that it wouldn't get a buyer/gets someone like Blizzard.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,698 ✭✭✭✭BlitzKrieg


    Sega did well over creative assembly, they are also a big supporter of Steam (pretty much all the total war since empire have been made with steam in mind)

    My only concern is Sega tried to get creative assembly into the console market with spartan total warrior and viking, it didnt go well.

    not sure if they are thinking the same for relic or just want to take whats left of the PC RTS pie left over from blizzard.


    regardless I am glad relic got a home, and now I can laugh myself to sleep imagining sonic the hedgehog in the 40k universe.


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  • Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 17,150 Mod ✭✭✭✭cherryghost


    Relic Entertainment
    Makers of Company of Heroes
    Winning bidder: Sega, $26.6 million.
    Backup: Zenimax Media, $26.3 million.

    THQ Montreal
    Makers of 1666 and Underdog, titles under development.
    Winning bidder: Ubisoft, $2.5 million. No runner-up.

    Evolve
    (title in development at Turtle Rock Studios)
    Winning bidder: Take-Two Interactive, $10.894 million.
    Backup: Turtle Rock Studios, $250,000.

    Volition, Inc.
    Maker of Saints Row
    Winning bidder: Koch Media, $22,312,925.
    Backup: Ubisoft, $5.4 million.

    Homefront
    Released 2011; due for a sequel.
    Winning bidder: Crytek. $544,218.

    Metro
    Series; due for the sequel Metro: Last Light.
    Winning Bidder: Koch Media, $5,877,551
    Backup: Ubisoft: $5.175 million.

    South Park
    License; South Park: The Stick of Truth is due for release March 5.
    Winning bidder: Ubisoft, $3,265,306




    Nobody made a bid for Vigil, of the Darksiders franchise. Anyone interested in a collective bid? :P


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,770 ✭✭✭danthefan


    So Darksiders is dead? I liked those games :(


  • Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 17,150 Mod ✭✭✭✭cherryghost


    danthefan wrote: »
    So Darksiders is dead? I liked those games :(

    Despite that it sold pretty poorly (with the exception of the 360 platform)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,575 ✭✭✭NTMK


    Relic Entertainment
    Makers of Company of Heroes
    Winning bidder: Sega, $26.6 million.
    Backup: Zenimax Media, $26.3 million.
    ****ing hell :eek:
    and RTS is a dying genre apparently:pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,101 ✭✭✭MitchKoobski


    Didn't see this coming. WWE licence has reportedly gone to Take Two/2K Sports.

    http://ie.ign.com/articles/2013/01/23/wwe-video-game-license-to-be-acquired-by-take-two

    2K Sports. MLB and NHL series.

    Take-Two own 2K's different companies and Rockstar's.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,701 ✭✭✭✭VinLieger


    danthefan wrote: »
    So Darksiders is dead? I liked those games :(

    Not dead just Vigil and the Darksiders IP havent been sold YET


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 10,093 Mod ✭✭✭✭marco_polo


    VinLieger wrote: »

    Not dead just Vigil and the Darksiders IP havent been sold YET

    The IP perhaps, but it looks like the studio is almost certainly defunct as most remaining THQ staff are being let go.


  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Music Moderators, Regional Midlands Moderators Posts: 24,155 Mod ✭✭✭✭Angron


    NTMK wrote: »
    ****ing hell :eek:
    and RTS is a dying genre apparently:pac:
    Yeah, but Dawn of War is awesome :pac:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,126 ✭✭✭✭calex71


    Shocked that EA did jump at a WWE license :eek:


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  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Music Moderators, Regional Midlands Moderators Posts: 24,155 Mod ✭✭✭✭Angron


    calex71 wrote: »
    Shocked that EA did jump at a WWE license :eek:
    I'm kind of glad it didn't go to them. I dunno why, but I wouldn't be overly keen on them getting the license.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,405 ✭✭✭gizmo


    marco_polo wrote: »
    The IP perhaps, but it looks like the studio is almost certainly defunct as most remaining THQ staff are being let go.
    Indeed, the staff have all been laid off...

    A poignant goodbye from one of Vigil Games' many former employees

    On a related note, the thought of this made me, well let's just say happy. :pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 55,616 ✭✭✭✭Mr E


    So if Darksiders 3 comes along, does that mean Conquest or Famine are going to have really long hair and look good in leather? :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,067 ✭✭✭Gunmonkey


    Mr E wrote: »
    So if Darksiders 3 comes along, does that mean Conquest or Famine are going to have really long hair and look good in leather? :)

    You mean Strife and Fury (no idea why they changed their names either), but Fury is female and uses a whip so looks like its inevitable :rolleyes:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,405 ✭✭✭gizmo


    Gunmonkey wrote: »
    You mean Strife and Fury (no idea why they changed their names either), but Fury is female and uses a whip so looks like its inevitable :rolleyes:
    From the comments of some of the ex-Vigil guys, DS3 would have offered proper four-player co-op with the horsemen as opposed to just Fury and/or Strife. As for the characters themselves, most of the final concept work was already done and can be seen in the two Art of Darksiders books, (nevermind flashes of them during the in-game cinematics, so unless Platinum went for a full redesign there wouldn't have been much worry of it going in the Bayonetta direction, style-wise at least.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,094 ✭✭✭✭Zero-Cool


    So Koch Media (Deep Silver) are in charge of the Saints Row franchise. Will be interesting to see what differences will be in SR 4. I think SR went a bit too mental so hope they go back to SR 2 kinda mental.

    EA already got the UFC license off them last year so I'd say they are concentrating on MMA than WWE. EA also have their Fight Night series so maybe another fighting series would be too much.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,508 ✭✭✭✭Varik


    Gunmonkey wrote: »
    You mean Strife and Fury (no idea why they changed their names either), but Fury is female and uses a whip so looks like its inevitable :rolleyes:

    There's no changing, the only horseman that is named is Death with the rest only described.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,167 ✭✭✭Grumpypants


    Having been through a similar slow drawn out process with months of layoffs with one final dumping of everyone on to the jobless pile, I feel for these guys. It took me 3 years to get back but after totally changing industries going from a job that i just worked at, to working in the industry I love means looking back now it was the best thing that could have happened. It was a bloody hard 3 years though.

    Hopefully the studio gets picked up and put back together.

    Fair play to the studio's who are rallying around them like Naughty Dog who are offering up some jobs for them to apply for.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,701 ✭✭✭✭VinLieger


    Varik wrote: »
    There's no changing, the only horseman that is named is Death with the rest only described.

    They have never been named in the games but in concept art and behind the scenes vids they have
    http://darksiders.wikia.com/wiki/Four_Horsemen


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,698 ✭✭✭✭BlitzKrieg


    VinLieger wrote: »
    They have never been named in the games but in concept art and behind the scenes vids they have
    http://darksiders.wikia.com/wiki/Four_Horsemen


    Uhmm I think he meant in the bible. The only horseman named directly is Death

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Four_Horsemen_of_the_Apocalypse


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,701 ✭✭✭✭VinLieger


    BlitzKrieg wrote: »
    Uhmm I think he meant in the bible. The only horseman named directly is Death

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Four_Horsemen_of_the_Apocalypse

    LOL my mistake


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,405 ✭✭✭gizmo


    One thing I haven't seen mentioned much so far is that despite SEGA's purchase of Relic, it seems they only acquired the CoH and UFO IPs in the deal, Homeworld is still wrapped up in Chapter 11 proceedings.

    Web developer launches Indiegogo campaign to buy the Homeworld IP from THQ

    ...and **** that.

    EDIT: Seems the Warhammer IP isn't even a certainty now: Sega and Relic and the whereabouts of the Warhammer 40,000 IP


  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 23,352 Mod ✭✭✭✭Kiith


    gizmo wrote: »

    **** that is right. No way in hell i want to see Homeworld 3 designed for a tablet. If they want to create a space rts for a tablet, by all means, do it. I'd actually like to see a good one made. But Homeworld needs to stay with Relic, or someone like them who can do it justice.


  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Music Moderators, Regional Midlands Moderators Posts: 24,155 Mod ✭✭✭✭Angron


    Please keep the Warhammer IP Sega, please!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,701 ✭✭✭✭VinLieger


    gizmo wrote: »
    One thing I haven't seen mentioned much so far is that despite SEGA's purchase of Relic, it seems they only acquired the CoH and UFO IPs in the deal, Homeworld is still wrapped up in Chapter 11 proceedings.

    Web developer launches Indiegogo campaign to buy the Homeworld IP from THQ

    ...and **** that.

    The Homeworld IP as well as some other stuff is apparently part of whats being called the Legacy package which will be auctioned off at a later date


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,775 ✭✭✭✭Gbear


    Looks like Sega did get WH40K with Relic but it's not a certainty yet:
    http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2013-01-25-sega-and-relic-and-the-whereabouts-of-the-warhammer-40-000-ip
    Specifically, Sega noted: "THQ Canada provides several million seller franchise titles, and its representative products include the Warhammer 40k Dawn of War series."

    Then Sega Europe boss Jurgen Post said: "We are incredibly excited to welcome Relic Entertainment into the Sega family. They are a highly respected development studio, with Company of Heroes and the Warhammer series both testament to the pedigree of their games."

    Nowhere did Sega state undeniably that "we now own the Warhammer 40,000 IP", but why drop hints and talk about it so much if that wasn't the case?

    I asked Sega Europe for confirmation of the Warhammer 40,000 IP acquisition this morning, but Sega could give me none.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,405 ✭✭✭gizmo


    Seems Crytek have opened a new studio in Austin from the remains of Vigil.

    New Crytek USA studio staffed with ex-Vigil employees

    Should be interesting to see what comes from that at least.


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