Hell on earth?

Leftist

http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/ireland/2013/0122/1224329146931.html


This is my opinion of what is the worst possible treatment.

The life of prisoners under intimidation from gangs in prison.

You can read it in the article but just imagine, being beaten, threatened, having your family threatened, contacting your family to threaten you, all for the sake of intimidation to control you, have you conceal weapons, drugs, have your family obtain hard class A drugs and smuggle them into prison.
And then if you fight back, they grenade attack your family home and then kill you infront of your child.

AnonoBoy

Not a thread about Longford.....

Dravokivich

If only they didn't still have their basic human rights. If they were kept seperate, they wouldn't be able to form gangs.

Nippledragon

If they were put to hard labour instead of the holiday camp prisons are, then they wouldn't have the time or energy to do anything else.

Fratton Fred

• Find a ghost estate in the middle of nowhere.
• build a ten metre wall all around it.
• put gangland bosses in ghost estate
• accidentally lose the key

FTA69

Considering the huge levels of violence, overcrowding, no sanitation and the fact the UN have criticised Irish prisons I wouldn't call them "holiday camps".

Death and Taxes

Nippledragon wrote: »

If they were put to hard labour instead of the holiday camp prisons are, then they wouldn't have the time or energy to do anything else.

Where are these "holiday Camp" prisons you speak of? They certainly are NOT in Ireland.

Ranicand

Lock up loads of scum together and they don't act nice to each other I am shocked.:D

frag420

Fratton Fred wrote: »

• Find a ghost estate in the middle of nowhere.
• build a ten metre wall all around it.
• put gangland bosses in ghost estate
• accidentally lose the key

You left out...

•fill it with water

franktheplank

Sounds just about right for Bertie and his banker buddies!

Princess Consuela Bananahammock

Fratton Fred wrote: »

• Find a ghost estate in the middle of nowhere.
• build a ten metre wall all around it.
• put gangland bosses in ghost estate
• accidentally lose the key

This is the most ridiculous nonsensical idea I have ever heard.

ten meters is not nearly high enough.

CreepingDeath

Leftist wrote: »

The life of prisoners under intimidation from gangs in prison.

Good.
Might make them think twice about reoffending.

donvito99

When is this new prison due to be built? Out in Meath or Louth or some godforsaken place.

Princess Consuela Bananahammock

CreepingDeath wrote: »

Good.
Might make them think twice about reoffending.

I assune you haven't read the article?

The guy never reoffended and was murdered in frot of his 10 year old son. But hey - anyone who ever enters jail has given up every right to ever life a free life ever again, ahven't they? Life sentences all round. Irrespective of the crime. Porblem solved, I suppse?

Leftist

CreepingDeath wrote: »

Good.
Might make them think twice about reoffending.

that is probably something you would expect from a child. Nobody deserves the treatment this man recieved. I'm sure there are people in there who have relatively minor offences and could be on the recieving end of this treatment.

Pathetic to suggest they deserve it.

2 stroke

2 scumbags off the streets for good. The system works sometimes.

Show Time

AnonoBoy wrote: »

Not a thread about Longford.....

I was thinking kerry myself.

CreepingDeath

Ikky Poo2 wrote: »

I assune you haven't read the article?

The guy never reoffended and was murdered in frot of his 10 year old son. But hey - anyone who ever enters jail has given up every right to ever life a free life ever again, ahven't they? Life sentences all round. Irrespective of the crime. Porblem solved, I suppse?

I read it.
It didn't mention what O'Reilly was in for, he wasn't an innocent little angel. It only said that he was acquitted of murdering Glennon in prison, not the other offences.
He did kill someone, and what goes around comes around.

Prison isn't meant to be a happy and safe place...

Leftist wrote: »

that is probably something you would expect from a child. Nobody deserves the treatment this man recieved. I'm sure there are people in there who have relatively minor offences and could be on the recieving end of this treatment.

Pathetic to suggest they deserve it.

Oh won't somebody think of the criminals ! :rolleyes:

Relatively minor offences?
Relatively minor offenders and a few serious ones, walk away scot free with suspended sentences.

AnonoBoy

Show Time wrote: »

I was thinking kerry myself.

Sure that's a great place. They're going to make drink-driving legal there again. Yay!

Princess Consuela Bananahammock

CreepingDeath wrote: »

I read it.
It didn't mention what O'Reilly was in for, he wasn't an innocent little angel. It only said that he was acquitted of murdering Glennon in prison, not the other offences.
He did kill someone, and what goes around comes around.

Prison isn't meant to be a happy and safe place...

Not suggesting he was innocent, but who the **** are you to say he deserved it when you admit you have no idea what he did to wind up in there...? And how the hell can you say that the State has no repsonsibilty to defend him and then, amazingly, slate him for attempting to defend himself??? I mean, that is just mind-bogglingly stupid.

Prison is actually meant to be a safe place. The State takes custody of someone, it also takes responsibility for their physical wellbeing.

Oh won't somebody think of the criminals ! :rolleyes:

Relatively minor offences?
Relatively minor offenders and a few serious ones, walk away scot free with suspended sentences.

Ah, the usual anti-anything-remotely-intelligent remark. I see....

super_furry

Fratton Fred wrote: »

• Find a ghost estate in the middle of nowhere.
• build a ten metre wall all around it.
• put gangland bosses in ghost estate
• accidentally lose the key

• Have Michael D Higgins' helicopter crash in said ghost estate
• Send in Kurt Russell.

Amirani

CreepingDeath wrote: »

Prison isn't meant to be a happy and safe place....

Ireland won't be either if you treat prisoners with such disdain, regardless of what crime they've committed. They have to be released some time, and when they do they're going to be more violent and likely more angry than when they went in. It's mind boggling how people don't realise that this is a bad thing.

MaxSteele

I don't see why individual, lone wolf criminals with no affiliations, are locked up with the big boys and hardened gang members. You're just asking for exploitation and inevitable situations like O'reilly and Glennon.

I remember hearing about a local fella who was locked up in Mountjoy for a month or two over unpaid car fines or no insurance. He shared a cell with a built up, notorious drug dealer from Drimnagh. Luckily for him, nothing sinister happened him. But still, could have been a lot worse of a stay for him.

GalwayGuy2

Lock up loads of scum together and they don't act nice to each other I am shocked.

No, treat people like animals and people are shocked when they don't act nice to each other.