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Bicycle Helmets half price

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,093 ✭✭✭✭Esel
    Not Your Ornery Onager


    Back in my motorcycling days, we used to say "If you have a £20 head, buy a £20 helmet". They run to €500 these days, no problem.

    Tbh, I would prefer to pay a premium price for a brand-name, premium helmet. It's for a worst-case scenario, after all.

    This one is definitely better than no helmet though.


    @OP I don't mean to rain on your thread, btw. :o

    Not your ornery onager



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,404 ✭✭✭✭vicwatson


    Esel wrote: »
    Back in my motorcycling days, we used to say "If you have a £20 head, buy a £20 helmet". They run to €500 these days, no problem.

    Tbh, I would prefer to pay a premium price for a brand-name, premium helmet. It's for a worst-case scenario, after all.

    This one is definitely better than no helmet though.


    @OP I don't mean to rain on your thread, btw. :o

    Nice, but not everyone has up to 500 euro to spend on a helmet of any sort..and it is bargain alerts:rolleyes: :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,056 ✭✭✭✭BostonB


    Esel wrote: »
    Back in my motorcycling days, we used to say "If you have a £20 head, buy a £20 helmet". They run to €500 these days, no problem....

    http://www.helmets.org/testbycost.htm
    https://www.folksam.se/testergodarad/sakeritrafiken/pacykelochtillfots/cykelhjalmstest

    If you are seeing a 25 times greater protection anywhere please point it out.

    No point getting into the merits of helmets or cheap vs expensive ones. Thats a debate about are helmets useful which will simply derail the thread. Its a bargain thread. If its not a bargain, point out why with something to back it up or post a better deal.


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,110 Mod ✭✭✭✭Tar.Aldarion


    Esel wrote: »
    Back in my motorcycling days, we used to say "If you have a £20 head, buy a £20 helmet". They run to €500 these days, no problem.

    Tbh, I would prefer to pay a premium price for a brand-name, premium helmet. It's for a worst-case scenario, after all.

    This one is definitely better than no helmet though.


    @OP I don't mean to rain on your thread, btw. :o

    All helmets pass the EU standards for safety, so it doesn't really matter. They are all safe enough. Mostly what people pay for is looks.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,093 ✭✭✭✭Esel
    Not Your Ornery Onager


    Fair enough. The €500 price tag I mentioned was for a motorbike helmet, btw.

    Not your ornery onager



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,014 ✭✭✭Soarer


    Esel wrote: »
    Fair enough. The €500 price tag I mentioned was for a motorbike helmet, btw.

    Don't think there'd be too many lads going up over the Alpe d'Huez in motorbike helmets! ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,404 ✭✭✭✭vicwatson


    Picked one up this morning and very good quality, a steal at less than a fiver !!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 236 ✭✭jinxremoving


    no excuses not to get out on my bike now, thanks OP


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,857 ✭✭✭langdang


    Esel wrote: »
    Fair enough. The €500 price tag I mentioned was for a motorbike helmet, btw.

    I'm sure my head is worth more than 600 (I'm sure my little finger is worth more than 600) but this is the most expensive bicycle helmet I could find! Will it suffice? ;)
    http://www.chainreactioncycles.com/Models.aspx?ModelID=82736


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,386 ✭✭✭✭rubadub


    Esel wrote: »
    This one is definitely better than no helmet though.
    Many would argue about that, including the €500 one. Be it €500 or €5, either given to me free, I would not wear a cycling helmet on my daily commute for safety reasons. Many do feel safer and thats no problem, I just want to make sure people realise there are 2 sides to it.

    http://www.cyclehelmets.org/
    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18481926?ordinalpos=1&itool=EntrezSystem2.PEntrez.Pubmed.Pubmed_ResultsPanel.Pubmed_DefaultReportPanel.Pubmed_RVDocSum
    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16019398?ordinalpos=12&itool=EntrezSystem2.PEntrez.Pubmed.Pubmed_ResultsPanel.Pubmed_DefaultReportPanel.Pubmed_RVDocSum
    http://www.timeshighereducation.co.uk/story.asp?storyCode=205323&sectioncode=26

    And the other side
    http://www.helmets.org/

    BTW with the ice today I have elbow pads. I also have decent knee pads.


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 31,117 ✭✭✭✭snubbleste


    Both gender helmets were €11.49, then €8.99..but the womens version is now €1 cheaper than the mens version.
    Dis-crim-in-a-tion!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,404 ✭✭✭✭vicwatson


    snubbleste wrote: »
    Both gender helmets were €11.49, then €8.99..but the womens version is now €1 cheaper than the mens version.
    Dis-crim-in-a-tion!

    It's also smaller - kapiche ;)


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,110 Mod ✭✭✭✭Tar.Aldarion


    rubadub wrote: »
    Many would argue about that, including the €500 one. Be it €500 or €5, either given to me free, I would not wear a cycling helmet on my daily commute for safety reasons. Many do feel safer and thats no problem, I just want to make sure people realise there are 2 sides to it.

    http://www.cyclehelmets.org/
    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18481926?ordinalpos=1&itool=EntrezSystem2.PEntrez.Pubmed.Pubmed_ResultsPanel.Pubmed_DefaultReportPanel.Pubmed_RVDocSum
    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16019398?ordinalpos=12&itool=EntrezSystem2.PEntrez.Pubmed.Pubmed_ResultsPanel.Pubmed_DefaultReportPanel.Pubmed_RVDocSum
    http://www.timeshighereducation.co.uk/story.asp?storyCode=205323&sectioncode=26

    And the other side
    http://www.helmets.org/

    BTW with the ice today I have elbow pads. I also have decent knee pads.
    I view it the same as knee/elbow pads. Maybe even airplane seat-belts.
    You may get killed wearing them with or without in certain incidents, in serious crashes they might do you no good. But in less serious incidents they do, I don''t need a study to show me that elbow-pads protect my elbows somewhat etc.

    One can't just look at road accident reports and say, oh they died/got brain damage from wearing and not wearing, therefore it doesn't help. I know that is oversimplifying it.

    It's a cushioned device that lessons impact, when I hit my head with one on it didn't hurt at all, it would be very different without it sometimes.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,714 ✭✭✭Ryaner


    rubadub wrote: »
    Many would argue about that, including the €500 one. Be it €500 or €5, either given to me free, I would not wear a cycling helmet on my daily commute for safety reasons. Many do feel safer and thats no problem, I just want to make sure people realise there are 2 sides to it.

    http://www.cyclehelmets.org/
    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18481926?ordinalpos=1&itool=EntrezSystem2.PEntrez.Pubmed.Pubmed_ResultsPanel.Pubmed_DefaultReportPanel.Pubmed_RVDocSum
    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16019398?ordinalpos=12&itool=EntrezSystem2.PEntrez.Pubmed.Pubmed_ResultsPanel.Pubmed_DefaultReportPanel.Pubmed_RVDocSum
    http://www.timeshighereducation.co.uk/story.asp?storyCode=205323&sectioncode=26

    And the other side
    http://www.helmets.org/

    BTW with the ice today I have elbow pads. I also have decent knee pads.

    Most (sane) pro-helmet people like to agree that mandatory helmet laws are a bad idea due to the decrease in numbers that it causes. Lots of your links seem to debate around that point. And even as someone who won't cycle a bike without a helmet, I'm strongly against such a law.

    Regarding the cheap helmet, it'll have much of the same effect as a 200 Euro similar helmet once worn properly. That is the important part. Positioning it incorrectly on your head can actually make it more dangerous than not wearing one in the event of a low speed impact.
    The biggest difference between a cheap helmet and the expensive ones is comfort and ventilation. And you'll only really notice the difference when wearing it for long periods of time.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,340 CMod ✭✭✭✭Davy


    As this is bargain alerts, can you leave the helmet or no helmet debate to the cycling forum please :)

    Thanks


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,386 ✭✭✭✭rubadub


    in serious crashes they might do you no good. But in less serious incidents they do, I don''t need a study to show me that elbow-pads protect my elbows somewhat etc.
    Many people do need to read the studies, I am not sure if you actually did. Many have never even considered the dangers of wearing one, and can only imagine a plus side, this "better than nothing attitude".

    There comes a point with many safety devices where wearing them increases you chances of being in an accident, and so negates the value of wearing them. e.g. wearing bulky or scratched safety goggles might result in injury due to poor vision.

    An airplane seat is different, if wearing one made it more likely for the pilot to crash you might think it is safer not to wear it. If other pilots nearby could detect you were wearing one and flew closer to you thinking you were safe then it could negate it.

    so potentially
    in serious crashes they might do you no more harm than good.
    e.g. rotational head injuries. The crash may not have come about it you had none.
    But in less serious incidents they do
    Also debatable.

    As a helmet greatly increases the effective size of your impact points you are far more likely to hit one. If people had to wear "drinking helmets" when over the legal limit I know I would have gone through plenty in my time. When people crack a cycling helmet (designed to crack easily) they get all emotive and go on about "that could have been my skull". Drinking helmets are arguably a far wiser thing to wear, or try and make mandatory.

    EDIT: only saw the above post now, sorry. €0 is a bargain though, thats my point, for arguably better protection.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,582 ✭✭✭stickybean


    Lads I only posted it as a bargain alert - was €11.99 now €5.99 / €4.99, therefor a bargain as in it is half price.

    I never said they were great, safe, wonderful, but I do have one and have had no problems with it.

    All helmets must under go some form of safety check.

    Yes there are more expensive ones, perphaps better quality ones, but if you want something for €5.99 / €4.99, this might suit.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,093 ✭✭✭✭Esel
    Not Your Ornery Onager


    A great guy I knew died from a head injury (temple area) caused by a simple fall from his bike while training for a triathlon. If he had been wearing a helmet....

    Same guy was a brilliant rock-climber for a long number of years, and never wore a helmet then either. It wasn't something his peers did.

    I wouldn't be typing this if I hadn't been wearing a helmet when the back of my helmet/head impacted a middle-knuckle shaped rock after a 20 foot ground fall while leading. The fibreglass was crazed and opaque afterwards (and definitely not designed to crack easily), and I had a huge lump where the internal harness fitting was forced into my skull. If I hadn't been wearing the helmet, that would have been my skull. Wearing the helmet did not make me more risk-tolerant in the first place, btw.

    A thing I remember from my motorcycling days - a label on the inside stated the the helmet could not protect you from all foreseeable impacts. A fair point, I thought.

    OT: Based on the info linked in post #4 above by BostonB, if you need/want a bicycle helmet, buy this BA. Just be sure to wear it all the time - after adjusting the harness/chin strap to a snug fit!

    Not your ornery onager



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 475 ✭✭jspuds


    Just picked one up and very happy with it & the fit, cheers OP


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 789 ✭✭✭GSBellew


    They have been reduced again, mens is now €4.99 womens €3.99 :)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,566 ✭✭✭GrumPy


    Oh wow, I got the last one in Stephen's Green on Wednesday, cant believe I paid €5.99 for it now! :D I coulda got a giant gobstopper for that extra euro. :(

    PS: Thanks OP.


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