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Some 10k advice!

  • 21-01-2013 10:04pm
    #1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 594 ✭✭✭


    Hi all,
    I'm new to running, I started about 7 or 8 months ago and have done a few 10k's, ( my PB is 46;45)

    I usually run about 3 times a week as follows;
    Tuesday 8kms or so @ 5:15m/km with hills try to run faster up the hills.

    Thursday 4kms flat out as fast as I can usually about 4:25m/km with a couple of easy km's after.

    Sunday: LSR up to 18km at 5:20m/km.

    That's all I really have time for I'd like to get another run in during the week but but babies and work don't allow!

    Would I be better doing 1km sprints on thursday with a minute recovery and then repeat a couple of times?

    On the LSR should I cut the mileage and up the pace? Or vice versa?

    I'd like to speed up my 10k maybe sub 45 I know It'll be tough with the time I'm putting in, but you need a goal!

    I'm grateful for any advice
    Thanks

    Edit: I should say I'm a 28yo male!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,685 ✭✭✭Darren 83


    Finnt wrote: »
    Hi all,
    I'm new to running, I started about 7 or 8 months ago and have done a few 10k's, ( my PB is 46;45)

    I usually run about 3 times a week as follows;
    Tuesday 8kms or so @ 5:15m/km with hills try to run faster up the hills.

    Thursday 4kms flat out as fast as I can usually about 4:25m/km with a couple of easy km's after.

    Sunday: LSR up to 18km at 5:20m/km.

    That's all I really have time for I'd like to get another run in during the week but but babies and work don't allow!

    Would I be better doing 1km sprints on thursday with a minute recovery and then repeat a couple of times?

    On the LSR should I cut the mileage and up the pace? Or vice versa?

    I'd like to speed up my 10k maybe sub 45 I know It'll be tough with the time I'm putting in, but you need a goal!

    I'm grateful for any advice
    Thanks

    Id just keep doing as you are speed will come naturally, have being running the same time as you're self.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 594 ✭✭✭Finnt


    @Darren
    Just out of interest what does your weeks running look like?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,567 ✭✭✭RoyMcC


    Depends entirely what your goals/targets are Finnt. What you're doing is a pretty good mix for 10ks.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,454 ✭✭✭Clearlier


    Finnt wrote: »
    Hi all,
    I'm new to running, I started about 7 or 8 months ago and have done a few 10k's, ( my PB is 46;45)

    I usually run about 3 times a week as follows;
    Tuesday 8kms or so @ 5:15m/km with hills try to run faster up the hills.

    Thursday 4kms flat out as fast as I can usually about 4:25m/km with a couple of easy km's after.

    Sunday: LSR up to 18km at 5:20m/km.

    That's all I really have time for I'd like to get another run in during the week but but babies and work don't allow!

    Would I be better doing 1km sprints on thursday with a minute recovery and then repeat a couple of times?

    On the LSR should I cut the mileage and up the pace? Or vice versa?

    I'd like to speed up my 10k maybe sub 45 I know It'll be tough with the time I'm putting in, but you need a goal!

    I'm grateful for any advice
    Thanks

    Edit: I should say I'm a 28yo male!

    You've put together a pretty good schedule for 3 days per week.

    You could:

    Lengthen the long run until you're running for 2 hours then start adding sections at faster paces.

    Go a little faster on your Tuesday run - not so fast that you couldn't hold a conversation but fast enough that it wouldn't be that comfortable to.

    Thursday - make the fast section longer - you want to be running for at least 20 minutes and then add 2 mins per week. Focus on the effort level for this one and let the pace look after itself. 8 weeks out from a target race start alternating the Tuesday and Thursday runs but run on Tuesdays and replace this run with the interval sessions from McMillan.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 594 ✭✭✭Finnt


    Thanks Clearlier that's good advice!
    But how do you mean alternate the Tuesday and Thursday run coming upto a race?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,454 ✭✭✭Clearlier


    Finnt wrote: »
    Thanks Clearlier that's good advice!
    But how do you mean alternate the Tuesday and Thursday run coming upto a race?
    I struggled to put that in words. I'll have another go.

    Pick a day that you want to do the intervals on. We'll say Thursday for the sake of this.

    Let's call the fast run you do on Thursday's a tempo run and the longer slightly slower one that you do on Tuesday a marathon pace run.

    Leading up to the intervals your weekly schedule is:
    marathon pace run, tempo run, long run

    After you start the intervals it will be:

    Week 1 - marathon pace run, intervals, long run
    Week 2 - tempo run, intervals, long run
    Week 3 - marathon pace run, intervals, long run
    Week 4 - tempo run, intervals, long run

    Hope that makes it a bit clearer...

    Don't be afraid to take an easier week or to change it up if you feel you're getting stale especially in the build up period.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 594 ✭✭✭Finnt


    Thanks Clearlier I get it now,


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 70 ✭✭multisport


    Flinnt, are you keeping a training log?
    Whilst you are getting good advice here, if you find yourself hitting a plateau/getting injured/sick/bored in a few months time you'll have a training log to refer back to and to use as guidance for your future training.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,685 ✭✭✭Darren 83


    Finnt wrote: »
    @Darren
    Just out of interest what does your weeks running look like?

    Tuesday 3 mile recovery
    Wed. 6 mile @ 9-9:30 min/mile
    Friday. 10 mile @ 10:30 pace
    Sunday 13 mile lsr


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