wheel balancing issue

homeless student

hi, my mate has switched his front wheels to the back as the front tyres were more worn, he changed the wheels himself but asked about getting the wheels balanced the guy in the tyre garage said it would cost 20 euro but my mate thought this was a bit too much to be looking for,i agree.so he isnt going to bother balancing them now, is he right or will the car drive differently now?

mickdw

homeless student wrote: »

hi, my mate has switched his front wheels to the back as the front tyres were more worn, he changed the wheels himself but asked about getting the wheels balanced the guy in the tyre garage said it would cost 20 euro but my mate thought this was a bit too much to be looking for,i agree.so he isnt going to bother balancing them now, is he right or will the car drive differently now?

May be fine but if he gets a shake or vibration at around 60 mph, he will know what his problem is.

Supergurrier

20 quid is too much, is he serious ?

homeless student

Supergurrier wrote: »

20 quid is too much, is he serious ?

well the same garage charged me 3o euro to put 4 new tyres on a month ago so 2o euro is too much imo.

Supergurrier

It's the standard rate tbh 5 quid per wheel, but if your mate wants his tyres to wear arseways after going to the hassle of swapping them around and the vibration from bad tracking to shake every components between the front wheels and steering to bits then he would be better off saving his 20 quid i think

homeless student

Supergurrier wrote: »

It's the standard rate tbh 5 quid per wheel, but if your mate wants his tyres to wear arseways after going to the hassle of swapping them around and the vibration from bad tracking to shake every components between the front wheels and steering to bits then he would be better off saving his 20 quid i think

fair enough, ill let him know.cheers.:)

homeless student

he reckons it feels underpowered since he changed them??

Supergurrier

Probably because of badly aligned tracking he is getting more rolling road resistance which would feck his inertia up a fair bit

homeless student

Supergurrier wrote: »

Probably because of badly aligned tracking he is getting more rolling road resistance which would feck his inertia up a fair bit

for the sake of 20 euro looks like he should get them sorted so.

Nissan doctor

Supergurrier wrote: »

It's the standard rate tbh 5 quid per wheel, but if your mate wants his tyres to wear arseways after going to the hassle of swapping them around and the vibration from bad tracking to shake every components between the front wheels and steering to bits then he would be better off saving his 20 quid i think

Tracking and balancing are two completely different things. A balancing issue won't effect tyre wear and a tracking issue won't cause vibration.

The tracking/wheel alignment can not have changed by changing the wheels from front to back.

Supergurrier

Sounds like it needs both regardless

kirving

OP never said there was a vibration or tracking issue though?

Nissan doctor

Supergurrier wrote: »

Sounds like it needs both regardless

It does? Its late so I must have missed something.

homeless student

Kevin Irving wrote: »

OP never said there was a vibration or tracking issue though?

all he has noticed is it takes a while to pick up power, unlike before he changed the wheels.

Nissan doctor

homeless student wrote: »

all he has noticed is it takes a while to pick up power, unlike before he changed the wheels.

If the 4 wheels are the same then its in his head.

Supergurrier

Nissan doctor wrote: »

If the 4 wheels are the same then its in his head.

Maybe he put the back wheels on backwards over and now they are working against each other :pac:

fasttalkerchat

homeless student wrote: »

all he has noticed is it takes a while to pick up power, unlike before he changed the wheels.

That doesn't sound related to me.

homeless student

Nissan doctor wrote: »

If the 4 wheels are the same then its in his head.

so theres no need to get them balanced?

fasttalkerchat

homeless student wrote: »

so theres no need to get them balanced?

No need to get them aligned anyway. Balancing may be needed if there is vibration in the steering wheel because an unbalanced tyre will be more noticeable once you move it to the front.

homeless student

fasttalkerchat wrote: »

No need to get them aligned anyway. Balancing may be needed if there is vibration in the steering wheel because an unbalanced tyre will be more noticeable once you move it to the front.

cool, cheers for all the advice lads.:)

Esel

homeless student wrote: »

hi, my mate has switched his front wheels to the back as the front tyres were more worn...

Conventional wisdom, although it sounds counter-intuitive, is to have the better set of tyres on the rear. So, tell your mate to switch them back and his balancing issue is solved!

fasttalkerchat

Esel wrote: »

Conventional wisdom, although it sounds counter-intuitive, is to have the better set of tyres on the rear. So, tell your mate to switch them back and his balancing issue is solved!

If you want to get longer out of a set of types the OP was right.

Chippy01

Esel wrote: »

Conventional wisdom, although it sounds counter-intuitive, is to have the better set of tyres on the rear. So, tell your mate to switch them back and his balancing issue is solved!

What he said ...

visual

It use to be recommended to rotate your tires including the spare to get even tire ware plus tires would last longer.
But people are lazy so didn't bother, a lot of tire companies picked up on this and only balance the front two tires.
Its possible the rear aren't balanced a quick drive at higher speeds is easiest way to test. If unbalanced a vibration will come into the steering usually around 80km mark.
If tires are balanced there be no vibration all the way up to motorway speed limit 120km

I don't hold with the view best tires on back if the tires are good and have enough thread its ok.

The reason the car feels slower is because the rear tires have less PSI than the front.
So by swapping rear to front. need to readjust tire pressures to match. More air in front less in back.

homeless student

visual wrote: »

It use to be recommended to rotate your tires including the spare to get even tire ware plus tires would last longer.
But people are lazy so didn't bother, a lot of tire companies picked up on this and only balance the front two tires.

he bought his car brand new 2 years ago, a toyota, do you think they would only banance 2 wheels?

visual

homeless student wrote: »

visual wrote: »

It use to be recommended to rotate your tires including the spare to get even tire ware plus tires would last longer.
But people are lazy so didn't bother, a lot of tire companies picked up on this and only balance the front two tires.

he bought his car brand new 2 years ago, a toyota, do you think they would only banance 2 wheels?

From new all tires including spare would be balanced. I was referring to tire fitters who in my experience shy away from balancing all tires unless you stand over them.

Did you pick up on the PSI between front and rear tires ? This is most likey your friends issue.

homeless student

Did you pick up on the PSI between front and rear tires ? This is most likey your friends issue.[/QUOTE]

psi? sorry dont get what your saying.

visual

homeless student wrote: »

Did you pick up on the PSI between front and rear tires ? This is most likey your friends issue.

psi? sorry dont get what your saying.[/Quote]


Air pressure in tires.
The front tires need a little more as most of weight of car is in the front.
Rear tires need less as less weight.
It should be listed in owners manual
& ( mostly) there is a sticker stating weight, tire pressure on inside of door frame.