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Moving to the uk to work

  • 20-01-2013 10:52pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 384 ✭✭


    His anybody experience of moving to the uk to start work?

    Myself and the other half are looking to make the move, somewhere around Brighton with a view to working there or London. What's the procedure for getting set up with tax etc, do you need a permanent address for a certain amount of time before they'll issue you a tax number? Also will Irish bank accounts be treated the same as a uk one, for utility bills etc.

    Any help and thoughts would be appreciated.

    Cheers


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 689 ✭✭✭avalon68


    Once you get your address you can apply for the national insurance number. Depending on where you are you might have to wait a few weeks for an interview to get it. You can however start work without it - just hand it in when you get it. Opening bank accounts is a real hassle. As soon as you get an address, ring your Irish bank and have them change your address and send out a statement. Also have work write a letter saying you do have a job etc. I wouldn't advise using your Irish account here that much - its a total rip off. I had lots of trouble opening the uk account so had to use the irish one for a few weeks and the charges were pretty outrageous for taking out money here.....and the exchange rate was pretty crap too! It might be easier if you had an account with an english bank before moving - you could ask in Ulster bank or something to see if it would make it easier to switch.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,411 ✭✭✭ABajaninCork


    You can't get a bank account without proof of ID (driving licence/passport) and proof of address! Quickest way is to get a letter from your employer.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,126 ✭✭✭Reekwind


    In terms of bank accounts, HSBC accept proof of ID and a letter from your employer but some (Natwest, I'm looking at you) insist on a household bill with your name on it. You will need a UK account though. National Insurance can be applied for as soon as you have a job

    A word of warning about moving to London: I'd advise people to have a job lined up before making the jump. You don't have to but London is an expensive city to live in and you don't want to spend much time here without work or on a minimum wage job


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,224 ✭✭✭Procrastastudy


    Biggest shock to most people moving there is the council tax. UK tax rate is similar to Ireland but the council tax is a real kicker every month.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 384 ✭✭Turtle-TM


    Thanks for the thoughts and advice.

    We're planning on having a few interviews lined up and look at flats/apartments while we're over at interviews with a view to being able to move straight in somewhere if we get jobs. We have savings so the first couple of months expenses are covered. We'd both rather not live in London, but Brighton is expensive so possibly outside Brighton but still on the train line.

    Good info about the bank accounts though, I've heard of Irish passports not being accepted as photo id when opening accounts with some banks.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,126 ✭✭✭Reekwind


    I had no problem with a passport in HSBC... even if the teller thought that Dublin was in the North

    And just be wary that train costs are actually fairly high in England. I love their trains but they can become quite a cost if you have to use one every day


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,411 ✭✭✭ABajaninCork


    An annual season ticket from Brighton to Central London is going to set you back at least £4k. AND the fares have gone up again! Don't forget that it will take AT LEAST an hour to get into London. That is is it's a fast train, and there are no problems. Neither of which you can rely on!!

    If you're looking around the Sussex coast, be prepared to pay that amount to travel. Rents are very expensive in that area too.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 144 ✭✭clarbar


    First of all get your N.I number call 0845 600 0643, they ll arrange an interview for you bring i.d proof of address blah,blah ,blah , when applying to jobs the best bet is to go to a recruitment centre either manpower or brook street in your local area where you want to move to. If your looking to live somewhere on the travel line to London central I suggest Watford,Luton ,edmonton or anyplaces around there great places and only 15 mins on the fast train to euston station which costs 5er each time on the oyster card. Renting places look up rightmove.co.uk or zoopla the least you should pay for a one bed place is 450-500 a month and take council tax into account.

    To get a bank account set up go to halifax easycash account they will have you set up and working in a matter of days , references are also needed for landlords


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,411 ✭✭✭ABajaninCork


    clarbar wrote: »
    First of all get your N.I number call 0845 600 0643, they ll arrange an interview for you bring i.d proof of address blah,blah ,blah , when applying to jobs the best bet is to go to a recruitment centre either manpower or brook street in your local area where you want to move to. If your looking to live somewhere on the travel line to London central I suggest Watford,Luton ,edmonton or anyplaces around there great places and only 15 mins on the fast train to euston station which costs 5er each time on the oyster card. Renting places look up rightmove.co.uk or zoopla the least you should pay for a one bed place is 450-500 a month and take council tax into account.

    To get a bank account set up go to halifax easycash account they will have you set up and working in a matter of days , references are also needed for landlords

    OP's looking to move SOUTH. All the places you mention are north of the river.

    Furthermore, getting a train from Watford to Central London is still going to cost about 2.5 -£3k...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 144 ✭✭clarbar


    Was only giving advice on his First post!


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,411 ✭✭✭ABajaninCork


    Turtle-TM wrote: »
    His anybody experience of moving to the uk to start work?

    Myself and the other half are looking to make the move, somewhere around Brighton with a view to working there or London. What's the procedure for getting set up with tax etc, do you need a permanent address for a certain amount of time before they'll issue you a tax number? Also will Irish bank accounts be treated the same as a uk one, for utility bills etc.

    Any help and thoughts would be appreciated.

    Cheers

    This is the bit I was speaking of. You were advising on places north of the river and out of London (i.e. Luton) which I was questioning...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 264 ✭✭not1but4


    I was able to set up an Ulster Bank (GBP) account in Newry using a address in the Republic. I was unable to set up a savings account while having this address. Once I moved to the UK I was able to change my address.

    I didnt get any emergency tax while working without a NI number. I worked for three months without one.

    If you are using an Irish aka euro account to pay goods in GBP you will pay a fee for converting the money.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8 Flowerpic


    Lloyds TSB have a system in place for people new to the country. We went there on day 1 with only our passports and were given current accounts, Visa debit cards, etc.

    You will be given a temporary national insurance number when you start work (the employer's payroll people will deal with it) and you can work with that until you receive your new permanent number.

    Most housing agencies will not give you a house/flat without proof of employment, a credit history and a bank account. Therefore you'll have better luck looking at properties advertised by private landlords, seeing as I assume finding somewhere to live will come before finding a job.

    Good luck!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 384 ✭✭Turtle-TM


    clarbar wrote: »
    First of all get your N.I number call 0845 600 0643, they ll arrange an interview for you bring i.d proof of address blah,blah ,blah , when applying to jobs the best bet is to go to a recruitment centre either manpower or brook street in your local area where you want to move to. If your looking to live somewhere on the travel line to London central I suggest Watford,Luton ,edmonton or anyplaces around there great places and only 15 mins on the fast train to euston station which costs 5er each time on the oyster card. Renting places look up rightmove.co.uk or zoopla the least you should pay for a one bed place is 450-500 a month and take council tax into account.

    To get a bank account set up go to halifax easycash account they will have you set up and working in a matter of days , references are also needed for landlords


    great info in there, thanks! were still just applying for jobs in and around london, and ive just applied for one up north, so we may be moving somewhere cheaper to live than brighton!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,411 ✭✭✭ABajaninCork


    :o My bad! Thought you wanted to move Sarf, OP!!

    (Can you tell I'm from the Sarf? ;))


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 384 ✭✭Turtle-TM


    :o My bad! Thought you wanted to move Sarf, OP!!

    (Can you tell I'm from the Sarf? ;))


    Well obviously I'd love to live with all the hipsters in shoreditch. But unfortunately I don't work in social integrated media guerrilla viral flash mob marketing so can't afford to! ;)

    We'd love to move to Brighton and still will
    If the right jobs come up. But at the moment well go where the work is.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,411 ✭✭✭ABajaninCork


    Turtle-TM wrote: »
    Well obviously I'd love to live with all the hipsters in shoreditch. But unfortunately I don't work in social integrated media guerrilla viral flash mob marketing so can't afford to! ;)

    We'd love to move to Brighton and still will
    If the right jobs come up. But at the moment well go where the work is.


    Shoreditch? SHOREDITCH???? That's north of the river!! I start scratching then! :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 384 ✭✭Turtle-TM




    Shoreditch? SHOREDITCH???? That's north of the river!! I start scratching then! :D


    But think of all the shops to buy over sized glasses and vintage top hats


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3 damenotre


    Hi,

    Have to move to UK for work as situation here is not good. Recruiters here no good to me. Perhaps it is me.Does anyone know of an Irish recruitment agency in UK (there appears to me more jobs in London - but am open to offers).Also have to spoken to one recruiter in London who thinks you have a much better chance if you have a UK address. They will take you more seriously is what she said.

    Would it be wise to go over for a week and try and get as many contacts built up as possible, get agency interviews out of the way.

    Anyone any tips?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 367 ✭✭splanagan22


    damenotre wrote: »
    Hi,

    Have to move to UK for work as situation here is not good. Recruiters here no good to me. Perhaps it is me.Does anyone know of an Irish recruitment agency in UK (there appears to me more jobs in London - but am open to offers).Also have to spoken to one recruiter in London who thinks you have a much better chance if you have a UK address. They will take you more seriously is what she said.

    Would it be wise to go over for a week and try and get as many contacts built up as possible, get agency interviews out of the way.

    Anyone any tips?

    What line of work are you lookin for?
    I'm involved in construction and with nothing in Ireland I made the move to the UK. I found that applying for jobs from home wasn't doing anything and was getting no replies. I then moved over to make it easier to get a job. I moved on a Monday evening and was working on Thursday. There's plenty of work in construction but I really don't know about any other lines if work.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3 damenotre


    I ran a business for many years. It was sold a number of months ago. I have plenty of experience in management, retail, staff management etc.. Am thinking that if i went over that i would find something quicker as it would put me under pressure. I understand the expense involve and have looked at other threads re living costs etc. How did you go about finding work? Was it through agencies?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 367 ✭✭splanagan22


    damenotre wrote: »
    I ran a business for many years. It was sold a number of months ago. I have plenty of experience in management, retail, staff management etc.. Am thinking that if i went over that i would find something quicker as it would put me under pressure. I understand the expense involve and have looked at other threads re living costs etc. How did you go about finding work? Was it through agencies?

    I came over with the hope of a job from someone I was put in contact with from an old employer. He told me to come ahead but when I got here the job wasn't ready and never came about at all. I just got on the job site and started calling. I never went through an agency as I got direct to a company but the done thing here seems to be the agencies. I registered with a few and now I understand how it works. It's a hard decision when your moving to no job and hoping that the funds you have saved will cover all expenses but in my opinion the is loads going on here. I dont know about any other line of work except what I am in but I there the ready available jobs in construction I'm sure all other lines of work are similar. Get a uk phone number and stick that on the cv and start ringin the agencies instead of sending cv by email because it doesn't work. Best of luck with your decision as I know it's a difficult one to make. But in the end it will all work out.


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