A priest stands up the Vatican

greenpilot

http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/breaking/2013/0120/breaking8.htm

This man has a pair. Fair play to him.

Cee-Jay-Cee

You forgot the word 'to' in your title.

fasttalkerchat

Strange that they never targeted teachers who are priests and don't follow creationism.

fasttalkerchat

CJC999 wrote: »

You forgot the word 'to' in your title.

Maybe they were due to go out for dinner and he got cold feet?

Mr E

The church needs more priests like that to bring it (albeit kicking and screaming) into the 21st century.

Napper Hawkins

Mr E wrote: »

The church needs more priests like that to bring it (albeit kicking and screaming) into the 21st century.

I wish they'd all just go the **** away, to be honest.

mikom

greenpilot wrote: »

A priest stands up the Vatican

Did it fall over?

Ghost Buster

"How can I put my name to such a document when it goes against everything I believe in," he said in an interview Wednesday.

Well then stop being a catholic!!!!!!!
Dont join an institution with God given (:rolleyes:) rules if you dont agree with them in the first place.

Tar.Aldarion

Ghost Buster wrote: »

"How can I put my name to such a document when it goes against everything I believe in," he said in an interview Wednesday.

Well then stop being a catholic!!!!!!!
Dont join an institution with God given (:rolleyes:) rules if you dont agree with them in the first place.

The church changes it's "rules" all the time, of course he should join and try to discuss what rules he thinks there should be. There are plenty of catholics that don't believe the Vatican is right, and over 33, 000 christian denominations.

Ghost Buster

Tar.Aldarion wrote: »

The church changes it's "rules" all the time, of course he should join and try to discuss what rules he thinks there should be. There are plenty of catholics that don't believe the Vatican is right, and over 33, 000 christian denominations.

So then they dont believe that the Pope is Christs main man on earth who is guided by God. A central tenent of catholicism.
These are GODS!!!! rules given to El papa. Dont try and change them.:D:D
(Im not Christian BTW)

Taco Chips

If he really had a pair he'd leave that rotten institution in the dust and practice his faith independent of them.

Smiles35

greenpilot wrote: »

http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/breaking/2013/0120/breaking8.htm

This man has a pair. Fair play to him.

''It's the Children of Lir on the phone again Papa''

Biggins

Taco Chips wrote: »

If he really had a pair he'd leave that rotten institution in the dust and practice his faith independent of them.

They probably won't let him leave officially - whats new!

Nodin

greenpilot wrote: »

http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/breaking/2013/0120/breaking8.htm

This man has a pair. Fair play to him.

He's going to get hit with the banhammer.

Nodin

fasttalkerchat wrote: »

Strange that they never targeted teachers who are priests and don't follow creationism.

...catholicism doesn't do creationism.....

fasttalkerchat

Nodin wrote: »

...catholicism doesn't do creationism.....

I never knew that changed! They're still clinging on to transubstantiation :rolleyes:

Ghost Buster

fasttalkerchat wrote: »

I never knew that changed! They're still clinging on to transubstantiation :rolleyes:

Well in fairness creationism is just crazy and unbelieveable.
The changing of a piece of wafer into the body and wine into the blood of a 2000 year dead God figure ony on a sub atomic invisable level is totally fine.

UCDVet

I'm not religious - but I really don't get this.

He's a priest. He's devoted his life to a particular religion. It seems awfully out of place for a mere mortal to challenge the divine wisdom of the church....a reflection of the will of God.

That'd be like me saying I'm a Catholic Priest - only I think that God isn't real and the Earth is the back of a giant sea turtle. At some point, I'm just a guy sharing his beliefs.

I'm not against people sharing their beliefs...but if he has a problem with Catholocism, it seems like he should start be not being a Catholic.

admiralofthefleet

amazing how he gets threatened for standing up yet scum like brady get away with not talking when they shoud have

Grayson

fasttalkerchat wrote: »

I never knew that changed! They're still clinging on to transubstantiation :rolleyes:

John Paul II was the one who said it. Pretty much said that if a catholic wants to believe in evolution that's ok, they just believe that at the point where the apes became human, that's the point where they all start getting souls. (Which makes we wonder why they can't use the same argument for a foetus. not wanting to start anything/derail, there are plenty of threads where people can bring that back at me). In many areas they're actually quite progressive.

But I've never really understood the whole women priest thing. I can't see any reasons why being a woman would make a worse priest. They'd actually look better in a dress.

fasttalkerchat

Grayson wrote: »

John Paul II was the one who said it. Pretty much said that if a catholic wants to believe in evolution that's ok, they just believe that at the point where the apes became human, that's the point where they all start getting souls. (Which makes we wonder why they can't use the same argument for a foetus. not wanting to start anything/derail, there are plenty of threads where people can bring that back at me). In many areas they're actually quite progressive.

But I've never really understood the whole women priest thing. I can't see any reasons why being a woman would make a worse priest. They'd actually look better in a dress.

Do foetuses have souls? Why cant they be baptised before birth?

Zen65

Grayson wrote: »

I can't see any reasons why being a woman would make a worse priest. They'd actually look better in a dress.

Maybe that's the real problem . . . tired old men afraid that women could do the job better?


Z

krudler

Hey how come he can get kicked out and I can't?!

Brinimartini

greenpilot wrote: »

http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/breaking/2013/0120/breaking8.htm

This man has a pair. Fair play to him.

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Nope, he's a hypocrite who wants to be considered Catholic but
wants to interpret Catholic beliefs his own way.
He should either shut up or get out.

Brinimartini

fasttalkerchat wrote: »

I never knew that changed! They're still clinging on to transubstantiation :rolleyes:

transsubstantiation is hocus pocus.
What made you think they'd given that up?

Retrovertigo

Priest or not, his face is yellow.

God, stupid clergy.