The Irish Unification of 2024

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CHsoPPynIIc

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ITS_A_BADGER

DEY TURK OUR FLEG!

HowAreWe

**** da brits, up da ra, liverpool till I die.





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bluecode

Kind of ironic that, 2024 is entirely plausible given the current progression. I remember the fuss when the scene was deleted. Who'd have thought? But it seems prophetic now.

On the other hand, mark my words, given SF conference today looking for a referendum on the subject. When the day comes that the majority in the North want unity. Then the real trouble will start. We've had a taste of it lately with the flag waving morons. It will be bloody.The loyalists are bitter people. They will fight and many will die.

On the other hand, it could be argued that many of the Catholics will vote to remain British. Given the shambles we've made of this country. Who would be surprised?

The question is very much in doubt.

Irish Musician

bluecode wrote: »

Kind of ironic that, 2024 is entirely plausible given the current progression. I remember the fuss when the scene was deleted. Who'd have thought? But it seems prophetic now.

On the other hand, mark my words, given SF conference today looking for a referendum on the subject. When the day comes that the majority in the North want unity. Then the real trouble will start. We've had a taste of it lately with the flag waving morons. It will be bloody.The loyalists are bitter people. They will fight and many will die.

On the other hand, it could be argued that many of the Catholics will vote to remain British. Given the shambles we've made of this country. Who would be surprised?

The question is very much in doubt.

When it comes right down to it the vote will be about which bunch of crooks do you want to be ruled by. The ones in the south are no better.

gurramok

bluecode wrote: »

We've had a taste of it lately with the flag waving morons. It will be bloody.The loyalists are bitter people. They will fight and many will die.

Democracy when it suits! Yeh, the current fleg morons of the type "Loyalists against democracy" come to mind. They won't lose their Britishness in a UI though all it takes is a fiery nutjob who replaces the ageing Paisley to wind them up into a frenzy of insecurity.

Dostoevsky

My name is URL wrote: »

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CHsoPPynIIc

Never forget!

And to think that the BBC and Sky censored this episode when it came out in 1990, and RTÉ allegedly had to put a warning saying it's not real. The fear and incredible pettiness is revealing.

seantorious

bluecode wrote: »

When the day comes that the majority in the North want unity. Then the real trouble will start.

That day looks unlikely given that the majority of nationalists don't want a single government any more.

http://www.independent.ie/national-news/just-7pc-in-north-want-ireland-to-be-united-3134105.html

yosemite_sam

Who is going to pay for it ?

Deedsie

Joint rule for the win...

My name is URL

yosemite_sam wrote: »

Who is going to pay for it ?

The economy, stupid.

yosemite_sam

What economy, there would be nothing happening in the North if it was not subsidised by the mainland. So where is the money going to come from when you consider that we borrowed 14 billion to run this state last year

gurramok

seantorious wrote: »

That day looks unlikely given that the majority of nationalists don't want a single government any more.

http://www.independent.ie/national-news/just-7pc-in-north-want-ireland-to-be-united-3134105.html

A poll commissioned by the unionist Belfast Telegraph! The real poll is elections.

Mr.Crinklewood

yosemite_sam wrote: »

Who is going to pay for it ?

Jedward and Stefano Ferrario.

Herb Powell

LordSutch wrote: »

Quite a conumdrum to keep both sides happy with their respective interpretations of Unity, and as regards your comment about "It will be bloody. The loyalists are bitter people. They will fight and many will die" Well hopefully that won't come true, but don't forget of course that many have already died at the hands of very bitter Republicans, as well as Loyalists.

Absolutely. But I think what he's saying is it would be really bad, given their current reaction over a flag being flown less. Imagine how they would react if their whole "wee province" was taken from them?

seantorious

gurramok wrote: »

A poll commissioned by the unionist Belfast Telegraph! The real poll is elections.

Even if it happens people won't accept it. Your asking people to accept Ireland's huge debt. Patriotism is trumped by tax increases.

Deedsie

Herb Powell wrote: »

Absolutely. But I think what he's saying is it would be really bad, given their current reaction over a flag being flown less. Imagine how they would react if their whole "wee province" was taken from them?

Loyalists need someone to fight with... It's part of their culture, now that nationalists have accepted their current position in Northern Ireland within the parameters of the GFA. They have less people to fight with, watch as they turn on their own community in the coming years. Democratic policies such as designated flag days, a nationalist first minister, a nationalist mayor of certain councils, not being allowed to parade where they are not wanted, not allowed to sing about stomping in Fenian blood or famines outside Catholic Churches... These will be to bitter a pill for them to swallow!

A united Ireland is at least 50 years off in my opinion, I hope we all get our democratic chance to vote on the border but I can't see it passing and if it did would it be worth the loss of even one life? I would vote Yes if given the opportunity to remove the border from our politics because I think the social problems it causes far outweigh the economic ones. For 92 years Irish people living in Northern Ireland have been left in a political **** storm with very little support from their own people south of the border!

Joint sovereignty, be British if you want, be Irish if you want. Be both if that tickles your fancy.

gurramok

seantorious wrote: »

Even if it happens people won't accept it. Your asking people to accept Ireland's huge debt. Patriotism is trumped by tax increases.

Whose tax increases? Thats scaremongering. Personal tax rates in ROI are quite low by European standards, raise it by a couple of percent is fine for me, I won't be broke by the few euro deduction after it!

Look at it this way, the govt abolished the PRSI exemption for PAYE workers in the last budget, thats a 4% personal tax increase right there. Where is the rebellion and outrage? Nowhere to be seen.

Mike 1972

seantorious wrote: »

That day looks unlikely given that the majority of nationalists don't want a single government any more.

http://www.independent.ie/national-news/just-7pc-in-north-want-ireland-to-be-united-3134105.html

Strange nationalists