spray painting a kitchen?

urranger

Anyone know of anyone who spray paints kitchens. I have a 12 yr old solid oak kitchen that I would like to paint cream.
Is it expensive?
Is it worth it?

Happyman42

Got mine done with an Auto sprayer guy, who was more than glad of the work. I did all the prep for him and he finished in a satin finish. Brilliant job,

urranger

Thanks Happyman
Did you have to take out the units or did he spray them in place?
was it expensive?

Happyman42

Ah you are doing the carcasses as well? I just did the doors.
If the spray guy has mobile equipment, he may come to you, trickier to do in situ but not impossible. Again, do all the asking and prep yourself, under his guidance, to save time and shekels!
I'd take the doors off and spray seperate and put them through his oven to get a really hard car finish on them.

me4many

Thinking of doing the very same with kitchen press doors/drawer fronts and side panels.

Happyman42: How much work did you get done and what was the € cost.
Thanks

TPM

urranger wrote: »

Thanks Happyman
Did you have to take out the units or did he spray them in place?
was it expensive?

Happyman42 wrote: »

Ah you are doing the carcasses as well? I just did the doors.
If the spray guy has mobile equipment, he may come to you, trickier to do in situ but not impossible. Again, do all the asking and prep yourself, under his guidance, to save time and shekels!
I'd take the doors off and spray seperate and put them through his oven to get a really hard car finish on them.

Spraying the carcasses in place wouldnt really be practical the paint would go everywhere. You could roller paint the presses you should get a nice finish certainly good enough for the carcasses.

michael999999

urranger wrote: »

Anyone know of anyone who spray paints kitchens. I have a 12 yr old solid oak kitchen that I would like to paint cream.
Is it expensive?
Is it worth it?

What part of the country are you in?

Happyman42

me4many wrote: »

Thinking of doing the very same with kitchen press doors/drawer fronts and side panels.

Happyman42: How much work did you get done and what was the € cost.
Thanks

Just got the doors and some trim done, afraid it was a swop of services so no cash as such, but I would imagine 200 euros would have covered it.

TPM wrote: »

Spraying the carcasses in place wouldnt really be practical the paint would go everywhere. You could roller paint the presses you should get a nice finish certainly good enough for the carcasses.

Not if they are using a HVLP unit, practically no overspray, but I see what you mean about a compressed air unit.
Whatever he did with the oven makes it a great job though so bringing them to him was best.

cardwizzard

I can't see €200 covering this.

We do a lot of repaint on kitchens, depending on size and condition we are usually in the €600 -€1000 range.

Prep and degreasing the units are very important. Decent primer and two top coats are the norm. Some people ask us for a clear laquer on top which protects the paint work even more.

Drying doors in an oven or kiln isn't pratical for most people. And automotive and household paints do dry differently, as some times household can crack due too drying to quickly, then your in bother. 99% of paints will dry in 16hrs or less.

I agree HVLP leaves a cracking finish and if possible should be used.

We have found Little Greene Paints stand up the best for kitchens, due to their durability and performance. Worth the extra few quid IMHO.

Happyman42

cardwizzard wrote: »

I can't see €200 covering this.

We do a lot of repaint on kitchens, depending on size and condition we are usually in the €600 -€1000 range.

Prep and degreasing the units are very important. Decent primer and two top coats are the norm. Some people ask us for a clear laquer on top which protects the paint work even more.

Drying doors in an oven or kiln isn't pratical for most people. And automotive and household paints do dry differently, as some times household can crack due too drying to quickly, then your in bother. 99% of paints will dry in 16hrs or less.

I agree HVLP leaves a cracking finish and if possible should be used.

We have found Little Greene Paints stand up the best for kitchens, due to their durability and performance. Worth the extra few quid IMHO.

You might be right, I was just guessing at the monetary value, I did all prep too, he just had to blow them in. My doors where melamine too which may have suited the oven treatment, definitely a great hard durable finish on them. WOuld post a pic but have since moved house.
Who sells those Little Greene Paints?

cardwizzard

MRCB and Stillorgan Decor in Dublin. Also a shop in Navan, for the life of me I can't remember its name.

Happyman42

cardwizzard wrote: »

MRCB and Stillorgan Decor in Dublin. Also a shop in Navan, for the life of me I can't remember its name.

Cheers, I have an account with MRCB, must give it a go on a couple of bedroom units I have.
I since invested in one of these systems, great bit of kit to have, although you have to retrain yourself in the use of the gun.
http://www.turbinaire.com/

cardwizzard

Happyman42 wrote: »

Cheers, I have an account with MRCB, must give it a go on a couple of bedroom units I have.
I since invested in one of these systems, great bit of kit to have, although you have to retrain yourself in the use of the gun.
http://www.turbinaire.com/

How does that work for you. Whats the finish like , and whats the cost?

We use a 4stage Graco as our HVLP, its a good worker and results are bang on if you look after it. Of course I want to upgrade it to a 5, but nothing wrong with this, so may treat myself at the end of the year.:)

Happyman42

cardwizzard wrote: »

How does that work for you. Whats the finish like , and whats the cost?

We use a 4stage Graco as our HVLP, its a good worker and results are bang on if you look after it. Of course I want to upgrade it to a 5, but nothing wrong with this, so may treat myself at the end of the year.:)

Only getting to grips with it, but it gives a great finish once you realise it's not a compressor system, gun technique needs to be slower and more even. That takes a bit of getting used to. I primarlily use it for flat panels, don't do furniture normally.
But it's perfect for the workshop as you don't need to worry that much about overspray.
It was about 1200 euros with the guns (you can run 2 guns off the system I have.

cardwizzard

Good stuff, it will pay for itself in no time and make you look brillant.:p

Yeah its a complete new set of rules spraying AAA/HVLP instead of airless. I was taught to 'fog' it on, just my old bosses word for lightly and in diff directions. After a while its second nature and no probs.

It must have plenty of power if it can handle double guns, what is it you normally spray?

P.S sorry for hi-jacking your thread OP.:o

michael999999

cardwizzard wrote: »

How does that work for you. Whats the finish like , and whats the cost?

We use a 4stage Graco as our HVLP, its a good worker and results are bang on if you look after it. Of course I want to upgrade it to a 5, but nothing wrong with this, so may treat myself at the end of the year.:)

Any chance of posting a pic of the unit, I do spraying myself?

cardwizzard

Sure, or I can post a link of where we buy most of our sprayers.

Or i'll just pm it to you, its a yankee site.

cardwizzard

PM sent.

Barnseire

Happyman42 wrote: »

Got mine done with an Auto sprayer guy, who was more than glad of the work. I did all the prep for him and he finished in a satin finish. Brilliant job,

Happyman,
Do you know what your Auto sprayer guy did and what paint he used. I've a lot of wood to paint, and thinking it'll be easier to spray before fitting and then touching up. I have an auto guy that will do it but he's never done wood. Can you give any more details on what the auto sprayer did ?

Happyman42

Barnseire wrote: »

Happyman,
Do you know what your Auto sprayer guy did and what paint he used. I've a lot of wood to paint, and thinking it'll be easier to spray before fitting and then touching up. I have an auto guy that will do it but he's never done wood. Can you give any more details on what the auto sprayer did ?

He used an auto paint with primer, (Sikkens, I think) He had his own mixing system. But remember this was onto Melamine, might be different on natural wood.
I like the look of the Little Greene paints, posted by CardWizzard
http://www.littlegreene.eu/paint/undercoat would definately work on wood, but maybe take longer to dry and harden.
you could supply the primer and paint to him?

Casa 2013

Can anyone recommend someone in Galway that could quote me for this job?

How can you tell what your cabinets are? Mine are already a cream hard finish. I want them taken down a few shades in colour. I'm reading about solid wood, laminate cabinets etc. I don't know what I have.

touts

While respraying can work a word of warning is you have to make sure the prep work is done properly. A mate of mine got some cheap handyman cowboy in to respray the doors and hand paint the surround of the units. He was using cheap Aldi/Lidl sprayers and sanders. He did a half arsed job of sanding the units and either left some rough and uneven which stands out a mile with a cream finish or barely touched the some with the sander and therefore didn't take off the varnish which then caused the paint to start to peel within a few weeks. Around the cabinets he left lots of drips and splatters.

You get what you pay for. I would advise you to go with someone who knows what they are doing and make sure you can track them down if the job goes pear shaped. Ideally try to visit his workshop to make sure he is actually set up to do the job and won't be sanding and spraying your doors in his back garden.