What type of visa are you on?

Pugins

Following on from the eejits in Oz thread on AH I was wondering what types of visa Irish people here in Australia are on? Seems to be the general perception that EVERYONE coming here is a GAA- jersey wearing, 10 to a house, drunk as a skunk eejit on a WHV who never ventures further than Bondi/Coogee!

Was interested to see the response here. I'm on 457 sponsored visa with partner and 2 children under 5 ( we may own a GAA jersey or two in the interests of full disclosure!).

Essien

457 with defacto for me. However, I don't own a GAA jersey because I'm from Carlow and it looks rediculous :pac:

mise_me_fein3

On a student visa at the moment

The_Hustler

I am on a WHV but live in Melbourne, and not in St Kilda. There are 3 in my house, all with a double bed each.

I'm hoping to get a 457 as I'm an accountant but it's looking unlikely.

I don't own a GAA jersey

jackbhoy

Currently de facto on partner's 574. Probably move to ENS route before that expires in late 2015.

mandrake04

ANZ Platinum

Legend100

457 with defacto for me

hussey

Mod Added poll - let me know if you want it adjusted
If on defacto, then put your partners visa (as officially that is your visa)

mise_me_fein3

Is self sponsorship 457?

My brother and a few mates are doing that.

If you're on the sites and can't get sponsorred it's a way to stay though you have to pay your own Super.

clearodara

mise_me_fein3 wrote: »

Is self sponsorship 457?

My brother and a few mates are doing that.

If you're on the sites and can't get sponsorred it's a way to stay though you have to pay your own Super.

How do you mean? Have they used their one year working visa or what? Do you know the costs envolved for doing what they are doing? cheers

mise_me_fein3

clearodara wrote: »

How do you mean? Have they used their one year working visa or what? Do you know the costs envolved for doing what they are doing? cheers

Ok, here's the deal. There is a company that specialises in visas that charge about $6,000 for this "service" and they will get you sponsored. My brother and another guy I know both are on this. My brother is a painter and the other guy is a labourer. You set up your own company and sponsor yourself but you need to pay your own super, but anyway it works.

I also know another person, who went through the process himself and got it all sorted for about $900.

None of these 3 people have any qualifications

If you are desperate to stay and don’t mind forking out $6,000 then it’s an option. For $900, I saw a lot of stress and uncertainty. No way that it is 100% like this.

As well as that there are other ways….I know people on student visas who attend a college on Saturday mornings for 3 hours once a week. They work the rest of the week on ABN.

As long as you do not fall into the trap of becoming illegal you are ok.

Everything really depends on how desperate you want to stay. A lot of people will just head to Canada after the 2 years here.

massdebater

457 for me. I'll be applying for PR around the middle of this year

No6

457 for me too, I will be applying for PR as soon as I can.

s.c

PR since Saturday night when I landed back. 457 before that.

Hail 2 Da Thief

WHV but it looks like I'm gonna be sponsored in the near future (touch wood)

The Aussie

Pugins wrote: »

Following on from the eejits in Oz thread on AH I was wondering what types of visa Irish people here in Australia are on? Seems to be the general perception that EVERYONE coming here is a GAA- jersey wearing, 10 to a house, drunk as a skunk eejit on a WHV who never ventures further than Bondi/Coogee!

I would not pay to much attention to people over in After Hours.
After Hours is full of people sitting in manny's house wishing they had the nerve to move out of mammy's house and go abroad or economic refugees who failed when abroad. :pac:
it's easier to mock than do

For me. Citizen in both countries

rightyabe

WHV but possibly 457 soon.

Also a few of my mates in Brisbane are doing the self sponsorship, they have no quals also. Might look into it myself.

Mellor

mise_me_fein3 wrote: »

Ok, here's the deal. There is a company that specialises in visas that charge about $6,000 for this "service" and they will get you sponsored.

The visa costs are a few hundred. 5k+ to set up a company is ridiculous imo.
A friend of mine is setting up his own company at the minute it's not costing him anything near that.

markfdrums

457.

Been here neary a year. Applying for the ENS PR soon.

Got here, job week later, sponsored 8 weeks later.

Too easy mate!

Kiith

Will be on a WHV in 2 weeks time.

token101

417 but hoping for the 457 all going well with work. I live near Coogee so their perception is probably right to an extent! But Coogee aren't bad places, they're some of the most desirable in Sydney. My Aussie workmates are looking around Bondi for a house because they want to live there, but the way you hear some clueless morons talk about it you'd think it was an Irish slum.

markfdrums

Coogee is a rip off for rent. And why do people want to live off the train lines?

East 'burbs in general is a rip off. Moving to Rosebery next week, Inner is decent.

statina

457, was sponsored 3 wks after I got a job. Have applied for PR so hopefully will get it soon. And have a gaa jersey out with me...!

Can't understand the popularity of the eastern suburbs either, far nicer and more central suburbs to live in sydney, and way cheaper rent!!

mise_me_fein3

Mellor wrote: »

The visa costs are a few hundred. 5k+ to set up a company is ridiculous imo.
A friend of mine is setting up his own company at the minute it's not costing him anything near that.

Did you read the rest of my post?

aido79

mise_me_fein3 wrote: »

Is self sponsorship 457?

My brother and a few mates are doing that.

If you're on the sites and can't get sponsorred it's a way to stay though you have to pay your own Super.

Is this even legal? I've heard of people doing it recently but don't see how you can satisfy the criteria must meet to sponsor someone.

aido79

I'm on a 487 regional state sponsoship visa. After living in a regional area for 2 years I am eligible for PR.

mise_me_fein3

aido79 wrote: »

Is this even legal? I've heard of people doing it recently but don't see how you can satisfy the criteria must meet to sponsor someone.

You set up a business and that business sponsors you....what's the problem?

hussey

mise_me_fein3 wrote: »

You set up a business and that business sponsors you....what's the problem?

So who holds the visa the 'service company or you' ? is it a 457 visa?
According to this, the minimum trading time is 12 months to be able to sponsor.

any one got more specific details.
http://www.immi.gov.au/allforms/booklets/books9.pdf

mise_me_fein3

hussey wrote: »

So who holds the visa the 'service company or you' ? is it a 457 visa?
According to this, the minimum trading time is 12 months to be able to sponsor.

any one got more specific details.
http://www.immi.gov.au/allforms/booklets/books9.pdf

Gonna dob me in are you hussey?

I'm pretty sure you haven't read everything there is to read on this as I know 3 people that are on it since last year...one being my brother.

If anyone is desperate to stay and can't get sponsored, it can be done. I'll find out the details from the guy that did it on his own or can give the name of the company that does it for that over-inflated price.

Send me an IM if you want but I think this is really only suited to tradies or people on ABN numbers that can actually generate strong income.

mandrake04

hussey wrote: »

So who holds the visa the 'service company or you' ? is it a 457 visa?
According to this, the minimum trading time is 12 months to be able to sponsor.

any one got more specific details.
http://www.immi.gov.au/allforms/booklets/books9.pdf

Found an interesting post on another forum that sort of sinks this theory.

http://www.pomsinoz.com/forum/939979-post3.html



As posted by a respected MARA agent as opposed to a plan scribbled on the back of a beer mat.

s.c

mandrake04 wrote: »

Found an interesting post on another forum that sort of sinks this theory.

http://www.pomsinoz.com/forum/939979-post3.html



As posted by a respected MARA agent as opposed to a plan scribbled on the back of a beer mat.

I know at least two people that have gone down this route. As far as I know, the company needs to have two owners/directors. Then one puts the other forward for sponsorship as a director.

jackbhoy

s.c wrote: »

I know at least two people that have gone down this route. As far as I know, the company needs to have two owners/directors. Then one puts the other forward for sponsorship as a director.

Sounds like a loophole ripe for closing by immigration. If anyone is considering doing this I'd weigh the risk that it might not be a long term solution...

mandrake04

Yeah it's a bit like the loophole for the 2nd WHV where people were signing off false Farmers and ABN and of course the old 2nd Passport trick from a few years back. It worked for first bunch of chancers alright then once DIAC caught on closed it and went hard on the deportations and exclusions. Really once you have been associated with something that has been 'tainted' your visa can easily be revoked.

Mellor

mise_me_fein3 wrote: »

Did you read the rest of my post?

If course I did. Unlike you I also understand the process. It's not always entirely above board, but it can be done. It can be legit, but rules can also be bent.
And I stand by my comment. 6k to arrange the company set up and the visa is way over priced. 457 costs less than 1k.

sponge_bob

PR

mise_me_fein3

Mellor wrote: »

If course I did. Unlike you I also understand the process. It's not always entirely above board, but it can be done. It can be legit, but rules can also be bent.
And I stand by my comment. 6k to arrange the company set up and the visa is way over priced. 457 costs less than 1k.

Yes, as I said one guy did it for $900 so I don't really know what you are on about.

mandrake04 wrote: »

Yeah it's a bit like the loophole for the 2nd WHV where people were signing off false Farmers and ABN and of course the old 2nd Passport trick from a few years back. It worked for first bunch of chancers alright then once DIAC caught on closed it and went hard on the deportations and exclusions. Really once you have been associated with something that has been 'tainted' your visa can easily be revoked.

Em, not really. I haven't heard of anyone getting into issues with this visa. It's a business visa and it seems above board to be honest.
So, no it's not a bit like that.

And even if it were, what are you saying? It's better not to try and stay under this visa and to just go home? If you have no other option, why wouldn't anyone do it? My brother moved from a 457 to a self sponsorship.
What basis are you giving for your words. Pub talk?

jank

mise_me_fein3 wrote: »

What basis are you giving for your words. Pub talk?

Em, you of all people should be careful accusing others of 'Pub Talk'.

Mellor

mise_me_fein3 wrote: »

Yes, as I said one guy did it for $900 so I don't really know what you are on about.

I'm saying that paying 6k for that service is getting ripped off. I'm not sure how you don't follow this.

My brother moved from a 457 to a self sponsorship.
What basis are you giving for your words. Pub talk?

There's no such visa as self sponsorship. It's still a 457, with a company sponsoring an employee. I think you mean he went from 417 to 457.

mise_me_fein3

jank wrote: »

Em, you of all people should be careful accusing others of 'Pub Talk'.

Why? Am I talking sh!te in this instance?

mandrake04

mise_me_fein3 wrote: »

Em, not really. I haven't heard of anyone getting into issues with this visa. It's a business visa and it seems above board to be honest.
So, no it's not a bit like that.

Maybe so or it could be DIAC do not know that a company is providing 'Self sponsorship' for $6000.

Maybe they will be checking it out in the near future.

mise_me_fein3

mandrake04 wrote: »

Maybe so or it could be DIAC do not know that a company is providing 'Self sponsorship' for $6000.

Maybe they will be checking it out in the near future.

Yeah,...maybe.

jank

mise_me_fein3 wrote: »

Why? Am I talking sh!te in this instance?

Well the brown stuff is certainly evidant.

aido79

Obviously these 'companies' would be hiring Australians and apprentices like all other companies that sponsor people...

mise_me_fein3

I've already passed on details to one person through a private message.

Anyone else that wants details let me know through a PM and if it’s any use to you I’ll try to help any way I can.

“Obviously” other people here would rather knock this back and insult than try to help a fellow countryman that may want to know of all possible options.

Even though everyone seems to know everything here, there is little information other than how you cannot do things being provided.

These people would rather see you move on to Canada or somewhere else rather than exhaust all options in staying here.

Don’t let these people put you off this great country.

hussey

Mod Okay lads, we'll move on from here, back to 'what visa are you on' talk.

Cooperspale

Citizen, PR originally
I love that after a long international flight I can avoid big queue at immigration by swiping my passport at the smartgate