Cheeky charity workers

scdublin · 17-01-2013 4:02pm #1

So, I was in Tesco the other day just getting a bit of shopping after work, and being tired and busy with shopping bags/rummaging for keys I didn't really notice two lads standing near the exit. As I started walking out, one of the lads walked in front of me and put out his hand for me to shake which I couldn't do as my hands were full.....I realised he must have been trying to raise money for charity and knowing I wasn't planning on giving him any money at that time I smiled and politely said "sorry" and continued walking.
As I was walking away, he shouted "Ah come on! Don't ignore me, I'm trying to save children's lives here!". I was so shocked that he'd try to guilt trip me like that and embarrass me after I 100% did not ignore him. I shouted back something like "Don't try to make me feel guilty, that's not how you do it". It just really annoyed me considering he has no idea about my involvement with charities and whether I "save children's lives" in other ways or not.

Before anyone says it, I know these guys are doing a good thing and it must be a frustrating job, but in my opinion there's a way to approach these things and that isn't it.

Have you ever had an experience like this? How would you react if you did?

kneemos · 17-01-2013 4:05pm

They're not doing a good thing and are in fact the spawn of the devil.

admiralofthefleet · 17-01-2013 4:06pm

the only reason they are there to collect is to make sure the director keeps his/hers fat wage packet and pension

Kichote · 17-01-2013 4:08pm

They are not doing a good job. Most of the money they collect goes to themselves and the chugging intermediary, most of what goes to the charity goes to well paid workers in Europe and expenses.

You're better off sending a cheque to a random address in some third world slums

Killer Wench · 17-01-2013 4:08pm

I'm always cautious about those types of organizations. My employer has a giving fund that goes to a select group of organizations that use most of the money to help the target population and rely on volunteers to administer most of the services. I know that employees of these organizations deserve to be paid good wages, but I have heard that one charity was using 80% of the donations received to fund the administration of the charity.

jameshayes · 17-01-2013 4:08pm

are these the bucket shakers or the fellas with the clipboards -

dont mind the bucket shakers but those clipboarders do my nut

AnonoBoy · 17-01-2013 4:12pm

scdublin wrote: »

was so shocked that he'd try to guilt trip me like that and embarrass me after I 100% did not ignore him.

That's not that shocking really, they do that sort of sh*te all the time.

Tombo2001 · 17-01-2013 4:12pm

scdublin wrote: »

Have you ever had an experience like this? How would you react if you did?

Yes, hundreds of thousands of people have had an experience just like that.

It is a pain.

On the other hand, yet another new thread whingeing about charity workers is nearly more tiresome than the charity workers themselves at this stage.....

Lumbo · 17-01-2013 4:14pm

I was listening to two ex junkies (they mentioned their treatment more then once) this morning on the bus and they were on there way to stand outside a Tesco to collect for the day. Their target was €165 for the day and if they didn't get the target they would get their blessing????

It was all very strange but it sounded like they were part of some cult/treatment programme.

scdublin · 17-01-2013 4:14pm

Killer Wench wrote: »

I'm always cautious about those types of organizations. My employer has a giving fund that goes to a select group of organizations that use most of the money to help the target population and rely on volunteers to administer most of the services. I know that employees of these organizations deserve to be paid good wages, but I have heard that one charity was using 80% of the donations received to fund the administration of the charity.

I've heard this before too and always avoid giving money to those kinds of charities. I just can't understand the shouting after people to guilt trip them, as if that would make you want to donate money all of a sudden?

davet82 · 17-01-2013 4:14pm

scdublin wrote: »

Have you ever had an experience like this? How would you react if you did?

you obviously didn't catch my 'got chugged on the bus' thread

Sadderday · 17-01-2013 4:15pm

I got approached by one of these charity blokes with a clipboard.. I was standing outside stephens green shopping centre waiting for a friend. He stood beside me and put his hand out for me to shake... rather than waste his time I said.. 'sorry, i'm skint-no thanks' and he looked me in the eye and said 'how can you be so heartless???'

now, I know they are trying anything to get me to interact and eventually sign but these people have no idea who they are approaching. For all he knows I contribute greatly to a worthy cause and FOR ALL HE KNOWS... it could be the cause that he is actually collecting for.

I walked away disgusted that this is what it has become, how do they justify being rude and making such comments.

scdublin · 17-01-2013 4:16pm

jameshayes wrote: »

are these the bucket shakers or the fellas with the clipboards -

dont mind the bucket shakers but those clipboarders do my nut

I was genuinely so distracted I couldn't say for sure! The people with the clipboards on henry street etc are infamous for their in your face charity work...just never had someone shout after me leaving Tesco before.

scdublin · 17-01-2013 4:17pm

Tombo2001 wrote: »

Yes, hundreds of thousands of people have had an experience just like that.

It is a pain.

On the other hand, yet another new thread whingeing about charity workers is nearly more tiresome than the charity workers themselves at this stage.....

The title kind of gave it away, you didn't have to click into it or read it.

kneemos · 17-01-2013 4:17pm

The perky pill they all take puts me off from the first word.

scdublin · 17-01-2013 4:21pm

Sadderday wrote: »

I got approached by one of these charity blokes with a clipboard.. I was standing outside stephens green shopping centre waiting for a friend. He stood beside me and put his hand out for me to shake... rather than waste his time I said.. 'sorry, i'm skint-no thanks' and he looked me in the eye and said 'how can you be so heartless???'

now, I know they are trying anything to get me to interact and eventually sign but these people have no idea who they are approaching. For all he knows I contribute greatly to a worthy cause and FOR ALL HE KNOWS... it could be the cause that he is actually collecting for.

I walked away disgusted that this is what it has become, how do they justify being rude and making such comments.

That's exactly it, if someone politely tells them they're not going to donate, it should be left there. This guilt tripping/rudeness is not necessary and is not going to do the charity any good, baffled as to how they think it will.

Sadderday · 17-01-2013 4:21pm

ya would probably stop if any of them were good lookin

Doc87 · 17-01-2013 4:23pm

Just tell them that you think there is too many children in the world as it is

Sadderday · 17-01-2013 4:23pm

scdublin wrote: »

That's exactly it, if someone politely tells them they're not going to donate, it should be left there. This guilt tripping/rudeness is not necessary and is not going to do the charity any good, baffled as to how they think it will.

ye, be careful who you approach, could be your boss's sister's missus and in fairness ya would probably get the sack for some of the stuff they shout after

Sadderday · 17-01-2013 4:24pm

Just tell them that they are big mingers

scdublin · 17-01-2013 4:26pm

davet82 wrote: »

you obviously didn't catch my 'got chugged on the bus' thread

Just read it! I don't know what I'd have done...especially if I'd been sitting on my own. What can you do really when they don't go away when you clearly say no I've no money.

HHobo · 17-01-2013 4:27pm

Chunts and Chastards in my experience.

I refuse to donate anything to charities that use these sociopaths.

RossFixxxed · 17-01-2013 4:29pm

I can't stand them, but I take the just saying 'no' policy myself. No sorry or anything, just a polite no and keep walking. I was only stopped once when the guy cornered me waiting for a bus. He just keep going on about the kids, the poverty etc and how surely I could save money and must care about others. I ended up saying I have no empathy for other human beings and if they die there's more air and food for me. He left me alone after that. Got some funny looks on the bus, and a seat to myself!

Hurray for psychopathy!

cassid · 17-01-2013 4:30pm

Complain to the charity, that you don't like the tactics they use to get funding. A good few charities are now outsourcing to a company called Total fundraising and they provide the chuggers http://www.totalfundraising.ie/clients, by the time they take their cut, one can only image what the charity gets ??
There is a well know supermarket close to me, that have allowed "fake" charities to set up insides their foyer and collect money from customers. Once was an US charity with no base in Ireland whatsoever and they other was just last week was just fundraising for "cancer, kids , old folks" ,it had no name or logo , no such charity! The management seemed shocked that it was not a real charity when I told them in the shop, all it takes is to check the charity number with revenue and a quick phone or search on the internet-it's the least a supermarket should do for their customers who think they are giving to genuine charities and its a scam. By the time I finished telling the manager, the scam charity collector had legged it as I had paid to much attention to them, next time !!

sfwcork · 17-01-2013 4:31pm

Buy anything nice?

scdublin · 17-01-2013 4:31pm

RossFixxxed wrote: »

I can't stand them, but I take the just saying 'no' policy myself. No sorry or anything, just a polite no and keep walking. I was only stopped once when the guy cornered me waiting for a bus. He just keep going on about the kids, the poverty etc and how surely I could save money and must care about others. I ended up saying I have no empathy for other human beings and if they die there's more air and food for me. He left me alone after that. Got some funny looks on the bus, and a seat to myself! Hurray for psychopathy!

Haha classic! That's one way of doing it anyway. I'm one of those people that just always says "sorry" even when it's completely unnecessary.

Sadderday · 17-01-2013 4:31pm

HHobo wrote: »

Chunts and Chastards in my experience.

I refuse to donate anything to charities that use these sociopaths.

I don't count giving my account details to one of these as giving to charity.

Dr Turk Turkelton · 17-01-2013 4:35pm

Can't go to the shop,bank or post office in the town where I live without some of these plagues begging off you.
I just ignore them myself but they always seem to guilt the auld ones into donating.

Also what is the Hanly Centre?
Can't get much info online on them.They do seem to be the cultish type group referred to earlier though.Far and away the most oft seen of these groups.

Abi · 17-01-2013 4:36pm

scdublin wrote: »

So, I was in Tesco the other day just getting a bit of shopping after work, and being tired and busy with shopping bags/rummaging for keys I didn't really notice two lads standing near the exit. As I started walking out, one of the lads walked in front of me and put out his hand for me to shake which I couldn't do as my hands were full.....

At this point I would have started wind-milling.

scdublin · 17-01-2013 4:36pm

cassid wrote: »

Complain to the charity, that you don't like the tactics they use to get funding. A good few charities are now outsourcing to a company called Total fundraising and they provide the chuggers http://www.totalfundraising.ie/clients, by the time they take their cut, one can only image what the charity gets ??
There is a well know supermarket close to me, that have allowed "fake" charities to set up insides their foyer and collect money from customers. Once was an US charity with no base in Ireland whatsoever and they other was just last week was just fundraising for "cancer, kids , old folks" ,it had no name or logo , no such charity! The management seemed shocked that it was not a real charity when I told them in the shop, all it takes is to check the charity number with revenue and a quick phone or search on the internet-it's the least a supermarket should do for their customers who think they are giving to genuine charities and its a scam. By the time I finished telling the manager, the scam charity collector had legged it as I had paid to much attention to them, next time !!

Wow, how can the supermarket not look into this before they allow people to be on their premises? I think a lot of people would assume that they would do this.
I would 100% complain about this chaps approach but I've no idea which charity he was working for because I hadn't noticed them while walking past in the first place. Maybe I can ask at the shop which charity was collecting money that day...

scdublin · 17-01-2013 4:36pm

sfwcork wrote: »

Buy anything nice?

Toys and sweets for children all around the world. And a pizza.

RossFixxxed · 17-01-2013 4:37pm

scdublin wrote: »

Haha classic! That's one way of doing it anyway. I'm one of those people that just always says "sorry" even when it's completely unnecessary.

I am too, but I came to a realisation in work years ago. I've mentioned this before but I call it the Comma Principle (or some other stupid name). Anything after a comma in a work email usually should be deleted. The more you quialify it the more cracks there are.

Example: Can I have tomorrow off, as I have a doctor's appointment?
New version: Can I have tomorrow off?

That way you ask the question, remove the padding, and don't get tons of follow up questions about appointments. It's a simple exmple but you get the point.

Just say no. Not no, I have no money, sorry! Everything after the comma goes. It's not impolite but it gets the point across!

scdublin · 17-01-2013 4:47pm

RossFixxxed wrote: »

I am too, but I came to a realisation in work years ago. I've mentioned this before but I call it the Comma Principle (or some other stupid name). Anything after a comma in a work email usually should be deleted. The more you quialify it the more cracks there are.

Example: Can I have tomorrow off, as I have a doctor's appointment?
New version: Can I have tomorrow off?

That way you ask the question, remove the padding, and don't get tons of follow up questions about appointments. It's a simple exmple but you get the point.

Just say no. Not no, I have no money, sorry! Everything after the comma goes. It's not impolite but it gets the point across!

Very good advice. That is literally me! I'm always adding on comma's, and then some more to explain everything. It's always true when I do it so I think I just try to over prove it or something.

Cheeky charity workers

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