Life getting difficult for technophobes. Need help!

StormWarrior

Am I the only one having trouble in this digital age? I was on youtube and discovered a really amazing new composer. I wanted to buy some of his music. Unfortunately he doesn't sell real physical CDs. You can pay to download his music but that's it. Now, I have never done this, and I really don't want to have to work out how to do it. Not only that, but when it's downloaded I'd then have to put it on a CD which I don't know how to do and I don't want to work that out either. I just want to pay and have the CD delivered to my door.

I don't want advice on downloading music, that's not what I'm here for. I really cannot be bothered to go to the hassle of working out how to do it. I also don't know anyone IRL who knows how to do it. This is a serious question - I would seriously pay someone to download it onto a CD and send it to me. will anyone do this?

RobbieTheRobber

StormWarrior wrote: »

Am I the only one having trouble in this digital age? I was on youtube and discovered a really amazing new composer. I wanted to buy some of his music. Unfortunately he doesn't sell real physical CDs. You can pay to download his music but that's it. Now, I have never done this, and I really don't want to have to work out how to do it. Not only that, but when it's downloaded I'd then have to put it on a CD which I don't know how to do and I don't want to work that out either. I just want to pay and have the CD delivered to my door.

I don't want advice on downloading music, that's not what I'm here for. I really cannot be bothered to go to the hassle of working out how to do it. I also don't know anyone IRL who knows how to do it. This is a serious question - I would seriously pay someone to download it onto a CD and send it to me. will anyone do this?

Send me your credit card details!
Or
Its not that difficult and by ignoring change now things will only get harder in the future.

A Primal Nut

I'll do it for a fiver! + P&P

StormWarrior

I know it'll be harder in the future, I just won't listen to any new music so I won't have to worry about it. I will seriously pay someone by paypal to do this for me.

StormWarrior

Primal Nut, are you being serious?

seamus

"I don't know how" = "I don't want to know how"

I used to get phone calls from my parents, particularly my mum, asking all kinds of basic stuff like "How do I get an email account" or "How do I print a photo".

Eventually I just told her I wasn't going to help her, and lo and behold she figured it out herself. Just like everyone else had to do. Nobody ever just "knows" how to do anything, we all had to learn one way or another. And so will you.

You can't say that "I will never buy new music, so this isn't an issue". In 20 years time when your home stereo breaks, it will not be possible to buy a new one with a CD player in it, not without spending a lot of money. Cars will no longer have CD players. So unless you have the basic skills for putting your music on your computer and transferring it to a device, you'll have a collection of useless discs of all your favourite music.

This stuff is not that difficult. It's about as difficult as posting a new thread on boards. Really. The sooner you figure it out for yourself, the sooner you will feel more in control of things and less intimidated by new technology.

Beruthiel

StormWarrior wrote: »

I know it'll be harder in the future, I just won't listen to any new music so I won't have to worry about it. I will seriously pay someone by paypal to do this for me.

If you can work out how to use paypal, then you can work out how to download a few tunes.
Give it a go!

SEPT 23 1989

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mjCRUvX2D0E

squod

E-mail the guy. I sold some stuff on donedeal recently. Got and e-mail, phoned back, agreed a price, sent the stuff, got a cheque three days later.

It was small money like. Don't see why the youtube artist would object.

StormWarrior

I'm having enough trouble using youtube. I can't email anyone on there because every time I try, a box pops up telling me to put in my real name, but when I do, nothing happens. It won't let me send messages at all.

Hande hoche!

You're bound to have a friend who knows about this sort of stuff, ask them?

StormWarrior

I have already asked the most likely people I know and they don't know either. I got a PM from someone on here offering to do it and I replied but now the PM conversation has vanished, I can't find it in the inbox any more.

BrensBenz

OP,
I'm with you all the way! The problem I have is with "Help" - written by people who know how to do it FOR people who know how to do it. Trying to detect or apply logic is doomed to failure. You'll still spend part of your lifespan aimlessly hunting and then trying to translate an icon or menu or whatever, because the people who designed the system cannot comprehend that their brainchild is not the most intuitive layout yet devised.

Then there are the knowledgeable ones who (and out of the goodness of their hearts) KNOWINGLY give you advice that nobody but another expert can decipher. The proof of this is that, asked for a destination, the nerds will use various, memorised, rather than identical, logical routes to get there.

I think the reason for this is historic. In the early days of home computing, it was an achievement to add 2+2. Your joy (apparently) came from the journey to the result (COBOL, FORTRAN, BASIC, etc) rather than from the actual result. The designers of music download sites STILL think you'll enjoy trying to figure your way through the labyrinthine process. After all, why would you possibly want to listen to.....music???

But, just as in aviation design, by the time they get it to work, it's obsolete, music formats will further evolve into supernerd and hypernerd territory. Isn't it nice to think that today's smart asses will be as stumped by these "improvements" as you (and I) are now?

StormWarrior

BrensBenz wrote: »

OP,
I'm with you all the way! The problem I have is with "Help" - written by people who know how to do it FOR people who know how to do it. Trying to detect or apply logic is doomed to failure. You'll still spend part of your lifespan aimlessly hunting and then trying to translate an icon or menu or whatever, because the people who designed the system cannot comprehend that their brainchild is not the most intuitive layout yet devised.

Exactly. I could never use the free ipod i got from the bank because I couldn't work out how to download music onto it. I ended up giving it to a charity shop. I just want to buy a CD! The kind of music this artist does is music that will probably mostly appeal to older people, many of whom, I'm guessing, don't want to download either. I think he's going to lose alot of potential business.

Gumbo

StormWarrior wrote: »

Exactly. I could never use the free ipod i got from the bank because I couldn't work out how to download music onto it. I ended up giving it to a charity shop. I just want to buy a CD! The kind of music this artist does is music that will probably mostly appeal to older people, many of whom, I'm guessing, don't want to download either. I think he's going to lose alot of potential business.

If you serious, PM me and i'll download it, put it onto cd and post it to you.

Matt_Trakker

Dad?
When did you join boards?

StormWarrior

kceire wrote: »

If you serious, PM me and i'll download it, put it onto cd and post it to you.

I've sent you a PM but I don't know if it went through. I'm having alot of trouble with the pms on here. If you don't get it would you pm me your email address?

RobbieTheRobber

kceire wrote: »

If you serious, PM me and i'll download it, put it onto cd and post it to you.

Your really taking this public service stuff to far now!

Gumbo

StormWarrior wrote: »

I've sent you a PM but I don't know if it went through. I'm having alot of trouble with the pms on here. If you don't get it would you pm me your email address?

Got it, but reluctant to start an email conversation with a stranger.
Send me the link to the artist and what music you want etc

RobbieTheRobber wrote: »

Your really taking this public service stuff to far now!

Increased services

SuperGrover

seamus wrote: »

"I don't know how" = "I don't want to know how"

I used to get phone calls from my parents, particularly my mum, asking all kinds of basic stuff like "How do I get an email account" or "How do I print a photo".

Eventually I just told her I wasn't going to help her, and lo and behold she figured it out herself. Just like everyone else had to do. Nobody ever just "knows" how to do anything, we all had to learn one way or another. And so will you.

You can't say that "I will never buy new music, so this isn't an issue". In 20 years time when your home stereo breaks, it will not be possible to buy a new one with a CD player in it, not without spending a lot of money. Cars will no longer have CD players. So unless you have the basic skills for putting your music on your computer and transferring it to a device, you'll have a collection of useless discs of all your favourite music.

This stuff is not that difficult. It's about as difficult as posting a new thread on boards. Really. The sooner you figure it out for yourself, the sooner you will feel more in control of things and less intimidated by new technology.

I mostly thanked this because you didn't spell it 'low and behold'.

Also, it's good advice.

krudler

I hate the phrase "technophobe".

Noxin

Google is your friend my friend.

I know you said you are not looking for advice on downloading etc. but in the long run it will serve you much better.
If you have a PC / Laptop capable of creating CD's of which 99.99999% can nowadays then for the price of paying someone here to do it, you could make 10 different albums.

What if the CD you buy gets damaged in the post on delivery? Or scratched? Are you gonna splash out each time to get a new one and wait for it to be delivered when you could just create a new one in 30 seconds?

Penn

Learn to embrace technology rather than run from it. Don't ask people to do something for you, or you'll be forever asking people to do stuff for you. Ask how to do it yourself, so you can do it yourself whenever you want to.

Hamiltonion

This is ridiculous. The world changes, adapt.

Nobody knows how to do everything on a computer, but when you need to learn how to do something you do this

1. Log onto Google
2. Enter 'how do I download music from iTunes'
3. Follow instructions
4. Result

krudler

Hamiltonion wrote: »

This is ridiculous. The world changes, adapt.

Nobody knows how to do everything on a computer, but when you need to learn how to do something you do this

1. Log onto Google
2. Enter 'how do I download music from iTunes'
3. Follow instructions
4. Result

itunes itself even tells you

Hamiltonion

krudler wrote: »

itunes itself even tells you

Tru dat but the 'Just Google It' advice holds through for everything. I'm not a computer genius but I've had to code, build websites and modify software before off my own bat - where'd I learn? Forums!!

Beruthiel

StormWarrior wrote: »

I'm having enough trouble using youtube. I can't email anyone on there because every time I try, a box pops up telling me to put in my real name, but when I do, nothing happens. It won't let me send messages at all.

Do you have your own youtube account?
I'm pretty sure you have to have one before you can send PM's.

Bipolar Joe

OK, what part, exactly, are you having trouble with? I'll send you simple instructions on how to do it. Having someone else do it for you just means that if you want more, you're gonna have to come on here again and hope we're just as patient. And hurry up, because I gotta go be a rockstar very soon.

Hamiltonion

I seriously think this is trolling, if someone can use boards.ie they can use iTunes and an iPod. It could not do any more of the work for you

Lyaiera

You could get yourself a dictaphone and hold it up to the speaker, record it and play it back whenever you wanted.

You could also whistle it to yourself. If whistling is a bit too technical try humming.

Hamiltonion

Lyaiera wrote: »

You could get yourself a dictaphone and hold it up to the speaker, record it and play it back whenever you wanted.

You could also whistle it to yourself. If whistling is a bit too technical try humming.

On that point if you're serious you could connect your audio out on computer to audio in on an old tape deck and hit record

Hey presto, low quality audio on an outdated format!

lucylu

I still have to pay motor tax, purchase airline tickets for my folks as they are afraid of "deleting" something or accidently download porn. God Forbid :rolleyes:
These are pensioners but I hear of many a parent of pre-teens and teens who haven't a clue how to use the internet and don't police their own kids usage.

Gumbo

OK lads, so i offered, and i couldnt go back on the offer, so the OP sent me the link to the music, sent me a few quid by paypal, and i downloaded the music, put it on CD and stuck it in this evenings post.

Hope it gets there safe and sound, thats my good deed done for 2013

FYI, the music was not available on iTunes or anything, it was a direct download from the artists website.

DEFTLEFTHAND

Records came back into fashion to a certain extent. You can buy record players in Lidl at the moment for instance.

I don't think physical copies of recordings will die out just yet.

P_1

Hmm I wonder if there's a business opportunity there for somebody...

You get us to do the techy stuff you don't want to learn how to do and we'll bill you for it

Dibs on the idea :pac:

BBDBB

what do I do with my old 78's?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dSINO6MKtco

Thrill

P_1 wrote: »

Hmm I wonder if there's a business opportunity there for somebody...

You get us to do the techy stuff you don't want to learn how to do and we'll bill you for it

Dibs on the idea :pac:

Dibs doesn't cut it these days. You gotta ask yourself "What would Apple do?"

Patent it, that's what they'd do. So hurry along and patent it quick. Time is money.

anhedonia

StormWarrior wrote: »

Exactly. I could never use the free ipod i got from the bank because I couldn't work out how to download music onto it. I ended up giving it to a charity shop.

Please stop, you're killing me here with this level of ignorance!!

anhedonia

kceire wrote: »

Send me the link to the artist and what music you want etc

Seriously?

Op cant be arsed figuring out how to download music, so starts a thread on boards and gets someone to download, burn to CD, and post the CD !

This laziness and refusal to learn should not be encouraged, let alone obliged.

Feathers

BrensBenz wrote: »

OP,
I'm with you all the way! The problem I have is with "Help" - written by people who know how to do it FOR people who know how to do it. Trying to detect or apply logic is doomed to failure. You'll still spend part of your lifespan aimlessly hunting and then trying to translate an icon or menu or whatever, because the people who designed the system cannot comprehend that their brainchild is not the most intuitive layout yet devised.

Here, this handy checksheet will solve even the most technical computer problems that you're facing.

9959

Does anyone know how to 'tune-in' an eight-track cartridge player, I can't even get RTE on the feckin' thing?

Jake Rugby Walrus666

Post

You think life is difficult now. Wait till you combine youtube with downloadhelper. God help us all.

bnt

9959 wrote: »

Does anyone know how to 'tune-in' an eight-track cartridge player, I can't even get RTE on the feckin' thing?

I'm going to take the charitable interpretation, which would be that you're taking the mickey. But it does remind me of a problem I have with "technophobes", which is that they seem to be lacking in curiosity. It always ends up costing them, having to get other people to do things for them that they could do themselves, if they only read manuals and listened to what they're being told. I've had discussions like this:

"I'm trying to get on the Internet at home. Can you help me?"
"Sure. What have you got?"
"What do you mean?"
"Do you have an Internet service at home?"
"Oh yes, they sent us a box."
"Who sent you the box?"
"The Internet people."
"Um ... OK, what will you be using to access the Internet?"
"What do you mean?"
Have you got a computer at home?"
"Yes, we do."
"What type is it?"
"It's a computer."
"Does it run Windows?"
"How the hell would I know, I just want to get on the Internet! You're just confusing me with all these questions!"

As someone else said above, the problem isn't not knowing, it's not wanting to know. You buy an expensive computer and internet service, and you don't know what you're getting for your money. I genuinely struggle to imagine what it must be like to live like that, surrounded by things that just happen to me, and my response is ... nothing.

It reminds me of Penny in the early episodes of The Big Bang Theory: her car always has the "Check Engine" light on, but not only does she not know how to check the engine, it doesn't occur to her that the light means that the engine needs to be checked. The car already costs her money to run, and her lack of curiosity will cost her even more in repairs that could have been avoided. If you don't want to do things yourself, you'll have to get others to do them for you, which puts you risk of exploitation.

Capt'n Midnight

kceire wrote: »

Hope it gets there safe and sound, thats my good deed done for 2012

the OP's not the only one living in the past

areyawell

Op did you ever here of google? It's just pure laziness on your own part that you couldn't be bothered looking it up and sound like a spoiled child.

CrazyRabbit

What the hell is a CD?

Capt'n Midnight

CrazyRabbit wrote: »

What the hell is a CD?

do you remember those round mirrors with the hole in the middle ?

Antar Bolaeisk

BrensBenz wrote: »

OP,
I'm with you all the way! The problem I have is with "Help" - written by people who know how to do it FOR people who know how to do it. Trying to detect or apply logic is doomed to failure. You'll still spend part of your lifespan aimlessly hunting and then trying to translate an icon or menu or whatever, because the people who designed the system cannot comprehend that their brainchild is not the most intuitive layout yet devised.

Then there are the knowledgeable ones who (and out of the goodness of their hearts) KNOWINGLY give you advice that nobody but another expert can decipher. The proof of this is that, asked for a destination, the nerds will use various, memorised, rather than identical, logical routes to get there.

I think the reason for this is historic. In the early days of home computing, it was an achievement to add 2+2. Your joy (apparently) came from the journey to the result (COBOL, FORTRAN, BASIC, etc) rather than from the actual result. The designers of music download sites STILL think you'll enjoy trying to figure your way through the labyrinthine process. After all, why would you possibly want to listen to.....music???

But, just as in aviation design, by the time they get it to work, it's obsolete, music formats will further evolve into supernerd and hypernerd territory. Isn't it nice to think that today's smart asses will be as stumped by these "improvements" as you (and I) are now?

I entirely disagree. 99% of the time when I'm confronted with a problem I approach it from the perspective of how I would design the system and logically follow the path to completion. I make assumptions based on how I expect the system to behave and these assumptions generally work out.

Occasionally I become stumped by a problem, when this happens I take the following approach:



I got to where I am today by pressing every fricken button and seeing what it does, sometimes I break stuff, sometimes I unwittingly fix stuff but always I'm learning and gaining knowledge that'll be useful later on. To begin with it's daunting, it still blows my mind that all those little electrical pulses can be converted into such wondrous things despite having a pretty deep level of understanding of how it all works, but with continues use you'll become braver and more adventurous. You might never be able to build a website or even install a new hard drive but you'll have gained the skills you need for what you want to do.

My main piece of advice though would be to read what's on your screen before hitting yes. Too many times have I had to fix problems which, were common sense to be applied on behalf of the user, don't actually exist.

On the other hand, I can explain in detail how engines work yet have no idea how to go about fixing anything in my car. I still have no idea what the correct level for the oil is