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Do I get paid for a certifed sick day?

  • 15-01-2013 2:34pm
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    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,386 ✭✭✭


    I only work 3 days per week. I missed work last Friday as I was really sick and wouldn't have been able to stand up let alone work and went to the doctor on Friday morning who gave me a cert for the day.

    Basically, I would like to know if I will be paid as normal by my employer for this day I missed or will I be made work the hours back as time owed to the employer even though I have a cert.

    I ask this because on one ocassion before I was out sick for three days with pnuemonia and had a cert but when I went back I noticed that I was roted to do the extra hours I missed over the following two weeks along with my original contracted hours.

    I didn't say anything to my employer as he's impossible but everyone told me it was absolutely wrong and that if I had a cert that I was entitled to be paid as normal and not have to work the hours I missed.

    Can anyone confirm this please?


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  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 18,375 CMod ✭✭✭✭Nody


    You have no rights to be paid when you're out sick by the company you work under law unless they have a company policy stating differently; hence the additional hours would be to maintain your monthly wage (the second half is an assumption from my side as I don't know your company policy).


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,224 ✭✭✭Procrastastudy


    Nody wrote: »
    You have no rights to be paid when you're out sick by the company you work under law unless they have a company policy stating differently; hence the additional hours would be to maintain your monthly wage (the second half is an assumption from my side as I don't know your company policy).

    +1 will depend on company policy have a read of your contract. There is social welfare available but I don't know if it covers a single day.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,332 ✭✭✭tatli_lokma


    Social welfare doesn't cover a single day. It comes into effect on the third day (or possibly after 3 days) of illness IIRC.
    but everyone told me it was absolutely wrong and that if I had a cert that I was entitled to be paid as normal and not have to work the hours I missed

    If everyone told you it was absolutely wrong, then you need to find more knowledgeable people to ask these questions of, as everyone is absolutely wrong.

    Unless your company policy is that you get paid for sick days, then no, regardless of how many certs you have, or what is wrong with you you have no entitlement to sick pay from your employer.

    Actually, it looks to me as though your employer was actually doing you a favour by giving you extra hours so that you would not be out of pocket in your wages. If you don't want to do the extra hours, let your boss know, as I am sure he would be happy enough to save a days wages from his wage bill.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,386 ✭✭✭another question


    Little Ted wrote: »
    Social welfare doesn't cover a single day. It comes into effect on the third day (or possibly after 3 days) of illness IIRC.



    If everyone told you it was absolutely wrong, then you need to find more knowledgeable people to ask these questions of, as everyone is absolutely wrong.

    Unless your company policy is that you get paid for sick days, then no, regardless of how many certs you have, or what is wrong with you you have no entitlement to sick pay from your employer.

    Actually, it looks to me as though your employer was actually doing you a favour by giving you extra hours so that you would not be out of pocket in your wages. If you don't want to do the extra hours, let your boss know, as I am sure he would be happy enough to save a days wages from his wage bill.

    I meant to say 'everyone' that I work with. I found my company handbook and it states that certified sick leave is paid for 12 days for employees with more than 13 weeks service up to 5 years. It increases thereafter.

    So thanks but it looks like my boss wasn't actually doing me a favour.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,038 ✭✭✭✭Wishbone Ash


    I found my company handbook and it states that certified sick leave is paid for 12 days for employees with more than 13 weeks service up to 5 years. It increases thereafter
    12 days over what period? It may be 12 days over a rolling 4 year period. Have you availed of them already?

    As has been said, you are lucky that you can "make up" lost time. Most employees don't have that option.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 418 ✭✭lebowskilite


    - Check that there are clear rules in place (a copy of which you have been supplied with);
    - If there are no clear rules, or if you've never been given a copy of them, you may be able to claim some regardless of what your boss thinks s/he can do. Go to your manager and ask why there is no sick pay scheme outlined in the company policy, or why there is no company policy, and then request pay for the time taken ill.
    - If there are clear rules in place and your manager hasn't followed them, go to your manager, ask that s/he comply with the company's policy. Then:

    If you're a member of a trade union: contact your shop steward, or a member of union staff, and explain the situation to them. Your union official will either handle the problem or give you much better advice than boards.ie can in terms of what to do next. You might be able to claim something if the company doesn't accept your request for sick pay (which will also have the side effect of making the manager get his/her act together and not let this happen again) - however this all depends on the state of the company's policy.

    If you're not a member of a trade union: Even if you're entitled to claim, you're unlikely to be able to do it unless you go to a solicitor or join a trade union - though they probably won't take a claim if you weren't a member when the sick leave was taken.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,758 ✭✭✭eastbono


    As you work 3 days per week this 12 days would be on a pro-rata basis. Also you dont say how long you have been working for the company or how many sick days you have since you began working with the company.


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