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cheapest inkjet printer to refill

  • 13-01-2013 6:19pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 107 ✭✭


    I have a lexmark x1250 all in one. The Lexmark refill is expensive. I was getting the cartridge refilled for 15 euro but now the cartridge is full but will not print. It has been refilled several times

    I was looking at ink in Tesco. Has anyone used the injet refill kit at 9 euro approx?

    Also what is the cheapest cartridge to buy. I was thinking of getting a new printer and intend to get one that is cheapest to refill. i only need black for letter/documents etc

    Edit. If anyone knows of a good online ink store please post.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,499 ✭✭✭✭Alun


    I get my Epson ink from here ... https://www.inkmaestro.ie/


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,931 ✭✭✭PrzemoF


    Buy any printer that can be equipped with CISS. I have a HP 5180 with something like that


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 107 ✭✭yes chance


    Thanks guys. i wondered if anyone thought the places where you get cartridges refilled are a rip off. i was reading about how many pages i would get from a cartridge and i was not getting anything like that. and the last refill just dried up. would heat in room do that?


  • Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 11,017 Mod ✭✭✭✭yoyo


    Refilling ink cartridges isn't a great idea, cartridges really don't work that well after being refilled, and definitely not after a couple of refills. I would recommend the CISS advice above or getting a cheap printer which you can buy cheap ink for online from the likes of inkjet.ie, justmedia.ie etc.

    Nick


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,191 ✭✭✭uncle_sam_ie


    I highly recommend CISS. It has saved us a fortune ink costs. http://www.inksystem.ie/


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,299 ✭✭✭✭MadsL


    yes chance wrote: »
    I was looking at ink in Tesco. Has anyone used the injet refill kit at 9 euro approx?

    Yes. It cost me €400 to replace my office carpet when I dropped the black ink.

    Not recommended. Even if I am an idiot.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 107 ✭✭yes chance


    Has anyone used Kodak printers like this for example . I saw some in Argos catalog with cartridges at 10 euro

    Connectivity:
    • USB.
    • Wireless/WiFi enabled.
    • (Accessory required).
    what does acccessory required mean? Is it a USB cable?


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 454 ✭✭Israel_Dagg


    yes chance wrote: »
    Has anyone used Kodak printers like this for example . I saw some in Argos catalog with cartridges at 10 euro


    what does acccessory required mean? Is it a USB cable?

    Yes a USB cable to set up the wifi.


  • Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 11,017 Mod ✭✭✭✭yoyo


    You could also get this and then get very cheap ink for it online here. Parents have this exact model and use those inks, does the job fine

    Nick


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 107 ✭✭yes chance


    yoyo wrote: »
    You could also get this and then get very cheap ink for it online here. Parents have this exact model and use those inks, does the job fine

    Nick
    thanks don't think would get ink below 10 euro.oops! had a look could be wrong

    cartridge green site says any printer below 80 - 100 euro is going to be expensive on ink


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  • Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 11,017 Mod ✭✭✭✭yoyo


    yes chance wrote: »
    thanks don't think would get ink below 10 euro.oops! had a look could be wrong

    cartridge green site says any printer below 80 - 100 euro is going to be expensive on ink

    Epson remanufactured cartridges are cheap as chips, using them years now with my r360 and no issues whatsoever. From people I know who have Kodaks, they plough through ink like no tomorrow. So may not be that cheap overall. The Epson inks also don't last as long as others, but are much much cheaper remanufactured

    Nick


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 107 ✭✭yes chance


    yoyo wrote: »
    Epson remanufactured cartridges are cheap as chips, using them years now with my r360 and no issues whatsoever. From people I know who have Kodaks, they plough through ink like no tomorrow. So may not be that cheap overall. The Epson inks also don't last as long as others, but are much much cheaper remanufactured

    Nick
    Do you know if they will print if there is only in in the black one. i read some printers will not print if all cartridges are not full. i only want black as i only print docs/letters and not much of them


  • Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 11,017 Mod ✭✭✭✭yoyo


    yes chance wrote: »
    Do you know if they will print if there is only in in the black one. i read some printers will not print if all cartridges are not full. i only want black as i only print docs/letters and not much of them

    No inkjet prints will. The reason is (the manufacturers excuse) that if you leave empty cartridges in to long it can cause the ink heads to dry up. I think it's also to do with the printers internal mechanism that if ink isn't flowing during periodic cleaning it can cause major issues. But yeah you'll always need all ink cartridges to have ink in them for the printer to print. Buying a printer pre-installed with a CISS is a great idea and will save you a fortune in the long run!

    Nick


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,564 ✭✭✭Gormal


    Stay clear of Kodak. They go through the ink like no tomorrow and will not print with an empty cartridge.
    also they appear to have a flawed printhead in certain models. The software you have to update online (huge update) for every machine you install it on.
    Anyway they are winding down the printer side of things now they been taken over and just concentrating on ink and papers. When I bought mine the ink was €7.99 black/€12.99 colour now it's €9.99 black/€18 colour. And that was in the space of 9 months.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 107 ✭✭yes chance


    yoyo wrote: »
    No inkjet prints will. The reason is (the manufacturers excuse) that if you leave empty cartridges in to long it can cause the ink heads to dry up. I think it's also to do with the printers internal mechanism that if ink isn't flowing during periodic cleaning it can cause major issues. But yeah you'll always need all ink cartridges to have ink in them for the printer to print. Buying a printer pre-installed with a CISS is a great idea and will save you a fortune in the long run!

    Nick
    my lexmark x1250 always worked when only the black was full. i never renewed the colour and black refills worked for a few years. But the ink s too expensive and i think the cartridge wears out as my last fill dried up and i never got to use it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,564 ✭✭✭Gormal


    So do both the canon printers I have had. You get a warning message the ink is about to run out.... hint to get some new ones. Then it warns you it's empty and if you carry on they accept no liability etc. But you can continue with just black, or refill the cartridges youself. They just won't show as being full. BTW I had a cartridge for each colour... more economical for my needs.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 107 ✭✭yes chance


    Gormal wrote: »
    Stay clear of Kodak. They go through the ink like no tomorrow and will not print with an empty cartridge.
    also they appear to have a flawed printhead in certain models. The software you have to update online (huge update) for every machine you install it on.
    Anyway they are winding down the printer side of things now they been taken over and just concentrating on ink and papers. When I bought mine the ink was €7.99 black/€12.99 colour now it's €9.99 black/€18 colour. And that was in the space of 9 months.

    You mean won't print with one empty cartridge? If it has a flawed print head it would have to be replaced


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,564 ✭✭✭Gormal


    yes chance wrote: »
    You mean won't print with one empty cartridge? If it has a flawed print head it would have to be replaced

    Nope it won't. Yes they will replace it during the warranty after that it's 30 GBP.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 389 ✭✭dango


    Is there a reason it must be inkjet? If not consider a laser printer. It's always important to weigh the pros and cons but if you do decide to get one, I bought this one a while ago and it does the job well: http://www.amazon.co.uk/Brother-HL-2135W-Mono-Laser-Printer/dp/B0085FM7WG


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 107 ✭✭yes chance


    Gormal wrote: »
    Stay clear of Kodak. They go through the ink like no tomorrow and will not print with an empty cartridge.
    also they appear to have a flawed printhead in certain models. The software you have to update online (huge update) for every machine you install it on.
    Anyway they are winding down the printer side of things now they been taken over and just concentrating on ink and papers. When I bought mine the ink was €7.99 black/€12.99 colour now it's €9.99 black/€18 colour. And that was in the space of 9 months.
    not according to most reviews on argos


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  • Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 11,017 Mod ✭✭✭✭yoyo


    yes chance wrote: »
    my lexmark x1250 always worked when only the black was full. i never renewed the colour and black refills worked for a few years. But the ink s too expensive and i think the cartridge wears out as my last fill dried up and i never got to use it.
    Not come across this before. It actually makes sense though as with Lexmark cartridges the print head is actually on the cartridge itself (the reason your refills are getting poorer over time due to this reason more than likely).
    yes chance wrote: »
    not according to most reviews on argos

    I know someone with a Kodak and it uses quite a bit of ink. They are printing a fair amount (due to an on going court case) but they certainly are not the longest lasting cartridges. I recommend getting a printer with cheap compatibles or a laser if colour printing is not necessary.

    Nick


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 107 ✭✭yes chance


    yoyo wrote: »
    Not come across this before. It actually makes sense though as with Lexmark cartridges the print head is actually on the cartridge itself (the reason your refills are getting poorer over time due to this reason more than likely).
    probably but the guy refilling them did not say that

    yoyo wrote: »
    I know someone with a Kodak and it uses quite a bit of ink. They are printing a fair amount (due to an on going court case) but they certainly are not the longest lasting cartridges. I recommend getting a printer with cheap compatibles or a laser if colour printing is not necessary.

    Nick
    appreciate your opinion but there are loads of people on argos reviews with positive experience of the ink lasting time

    I recommend getting a printer with cheap compatibles or a laser if colour printing is not necessary.
    that is vertainly my aim and kodak seems the cheapest. i looked at the epson you linked earlier but it is quiet cheap. Cartridge green - under how much should spend-say under 80 euro is going to cost a lot for ink. i do not print a lot and would prefer to get a new cheap cartridge each time instead of having a cartridge in the printer for ages. kodak cartridges are in tesco for 10 euro fornthe printer i am looking at


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 107 ✭✭yes chance


    dango wrote: »
    Is there a reason it must be inkjet? If not consider a laser printer. It's always important to weigh the pros and cons but if you do decide to get one, I bought this one a while ago and it does the job well: http://www.amazon.co.uk/Brother-HL-2135W-Mono-Laser-Printer/dp/B0085FM7WG
    I just though inkjet were cheaper unless doin a lot. That seems a good deal. is there import duty on that from amazon or did you buy it here? One review says toner very cheap and can print 1000 pages. How much is the toner


  • Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 11,017 Mod ✭✭✭✭yoyo


    yes chance wrote: »
    probably but the guy refilling them did not say that
    The bit of the cartridge where the ink comes out of on those older style cartridges is the print head. You can sometimes sort clogging/drying up issues by boiling a kettle, when it finishes boiling hold the bottom of the cartridge under steam, and dabble it with kitchen towel.
    appreciate your opinion but there are loads of people on argos reviews with positive experience of the ink lasting time
    Fair enough, although I wouldn't reccomend Argos reviews as they are usually written by people who wouldn't be that understanding of technology. Here is an amazon review list of people who confirm the inks waste quite quickly. There are plenty of positives, but also plenty of negatives in the 1-3 * bracket, many complaints are about cartridge yield.
    Btw Epson inks are probably the most expensive going, but the fact you can get 4xBlack and 2 of each of the colour (10 inks) for €25 is better value than the €40 odd it will probably cost to replace the Kodak inks once.
    that is vertainly my aim and kodak seems the cheapest. i looked at the epson you linked earlier but it is quiet cheap. Cartridge green - under how much should spend-say under 80 euro is going to cost a lot for ink. i do not print a lot and would prefer to get a new cheap cartridge each time instead of having a cartridge in the printer for ages. kodak cartridges are in tesco for 10 euro fornthe printer i am looking at

    Cartridge green recommend you buy printers that they can refill the cartridges for. They cannot refill Epson cartridges. For Epsons you buy "remanufactured" cartridges, that are actually brand new inks that are made by other companies. Same goes for some Canons I think.
    I bet they recommended Brother machines as I think those inks traditionally were easy to re fill. Btw most of these 40 printers do have very expensive originals, hence I linked you to the compatibles.
    If you are set on the Kodak then go for it, not bad printers by any means, but don't be conned by their marketing. If you are buying genuine ink for any brand it will not be cheaper than generic re manufactured cartridges. Also it is not ideal leaving an inkjet printer unused for weeks at a time. If you will only be printing occasionally I would strongly encourage getting a laser. Or else try to print a document or two at least every week or two to avoid the ink heads drying up

    Nick


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 107 ✭✭yes chance


    yoyo wrote: »
    The bit of the cartridge where the ink comes out of on those older style cartridges is the print head. You can sometimes sort clogging/drying up issues by boiling a kettle, when it finishes boiling hold the bottom of the cartridge under steam, and dabble it with kitchen towel.


    Fair enough, although I wouldn't reccomend Argos reviews as they are usually written by people who wouldn't be that understanding of technology. Here is an amazon review list of people who confirm the inks waste quite quickly. There are plenty of positives, but also plenty of negatives in the 1-3 * bracket, many complaints are about cartridge yield.
    Btw Epson inks are probably the most expensive going, but the fact you can get 4xBlack and 2 of each of the colour (10 inks) for €25 is better value than the €40 odd it will probably cost to replace the Kodak inks once.

    In relation to yur link for the cartridge It is easier for me to go to a shop than buy online where there is a shipping charge unless a certain amout is used. i do not need print often but the lexmark is a rip off

    Cartridge green recommend you buy printers that they can refill the cartridges for. They cannot refill Epson cartridges. For Epsons you buy "remanufactured" cartridges, that are actually brand new inks that are made by other companies. Same goes for some Canons I think.
    I bet they recommended Brother machines as I think those inks traditionally were easy to re fill. Btw most of these 40 printers do have very expensive originals, hence I linked you to the compatibles.
    If you are set on the Kodak then go for it, not bad printers by any means, but don't be conned by their marketing. If you are buying genuine ink for any brand it will not be cheaper than generic re manufactured cartridges. Also it is not ideal leaving an inkjet printer unused for weeks at a time. If you will only be printing occasionally I would strongly encourage getting a laser. Or else try to print a document or two at least every week or two to avoid the ink heads drying up

    Nick
    Thanks for the info. I do not under stand the highlighted part. I saw kodak for 9.99 in Tesco. is that not genune kodak cartridge?
    Also it is not ideal leaving an inkjet printer unused for weeks at a time. If you will only be printing occasionally I would strongly encourage getting a laser. Or else try to print a document or two at least every week or two to avoid the ink heads drying up
    good idea


  • Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 11,017 Mod ✭✭✭✭yoyo


    yes chance wrote: »
    Thanks for the info. I do not under stand the highlighted part. I saw kodak for 9.99 in Tesco. is that not genune kodak cartridge?
    What I mean is that "Compatible" or Refilled ink cartridges will mostly always be drastically cheaper than the genuine manufacturers version, otherwise there would be little point in making them. Also don't be conned by the re manufactured inks break the printer more easily line manufacturers say, ink is ink whatever the container. Poorly refilled cartridges can have air bubbles or other dirt that can cause issues with the printer, but re manufactured inks are made for the most part in a proper factory process. Anyways printers are so cheap nowadays even when using originals they probably won't last that long and its cheaper to just bin and replace (unfortunately!).

    good idea
    Yes even just printing a test page should be sufficient, try to do both black and colour if you can.

    Nick


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 107 ✭✭yes chance


    yoyo wrote: »
    What I mean is that "Compatible" or Refilled ink cartridges will mostly always be drastically cheaper than the genuine manufacturers version,
    Do you mean the Kodak cartridges in argos like this are not genuine

    It seems ok for me for occasional use, and as you suggest a test page now and then to stop it drying out

    here is an amazon review on it I think it is the same one anyway


  • Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 11,017 Mod ✭✭✭✭yoyo


    yes chance wrote: »
    Do you mean the Kodak cartridges in argos like this are not genuine

    It seems ok for me for occasional use, and as you suggest a test page now and then to stop it drying out

    No, the ones in argos are genuine. What I am saying is Epson original Black ink for that printer I linked above costs €10 (on reduction), it costs 35 for all 4 inks replacements that are genuine. The compatibles for this exact printer I linked to you above cost €25 for 4xBlack and 2 of each of the 3 colour inks, which is a massive difference in price.
    Also you need to remember that inkjet printers waste ink regularly "charging" the cartridges, which means the ink reservoirs are drained that are inside the printer and new ink is drawn inside so your colour cartridge will run out even if unused at some point. For that Kodak the colour replacement is €20 (on argos it is reduced to €15 from it's normal €19.49 price).
    It probably is ok for occasional use, but if it were me I would go the cheap Epson and cheap compatibles route. As I said the parents have one set up wirelessly and using those exact compatibles and it works fine.
    You've got plenty of advice now with what to do next. I wouldn't recommend a CISS for only light use as it would be a waste of money, but re manufactured inks may suit ideally if you want to go that route.

    Nick


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 107 ✭✭yes chance


    yoyo wrote: »
    No, the ones in argos are genuine. What I am saying is Epson original Black ink for that printer I linked above costs €10 (on reduction), it costs 35 for all 4 inks replacements that are genuine. The compatibles for this exact printer I linked to you above cost €25 for 4xBlack and 2 of each of the 3 colour inks, which is a massive difference in price.
    Also you need to remember that inkjet printers waste ink regularly "charging" the cartridges, which means the ink reservoirs are drained that are inside the printer and new ink is drawn inside so your colour cartridge will run out even if unused at some point. For that Kodak the colour replacement is €20 (on argos it is reduced to €15 from it's normal €19.49 price).
    It probably is ok for occasional use, but if it were me I would go the cheap Epson and cheap compatibles route. As I said the parents have one set up wirelessly and using those exact compatibles and it works fine.
    You've got plenty of advice now with what to do next. I wouldn't recommend a CISS for only light use as it would be a waste of money, but re manufactured inks may suit ideally if you want to go that route.

    Nick
    OK thanks for your input, much appreciated


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 107 ✭✭yes chance


    UPDATE

    I saw this one in Tesco for 60 euro. It gets good reviews on Argos. but is 72 euro there. There is an ink cartridge in Argos that fits it for 13 euro and you need only replace the colour used. Anyone know if they come with ink and anyone any experience of this one


  • Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 11,017 Mod ✭✭✭✭yoyo


    yes chance wrote: »
    UPDATE

    I saw this one in Tesco for 60 euro. It gets good reviews on Argos. but is 72 euro there. There is an ink cartridge in Argos that fits it for 13 euro and you need only replace the colour used. Anyone know if they come with ink and anyone any experience of this one

    You can get cheap ink for that printer here. Remember though that even if you don't use colour the inks will run out at some point.
    The printer will come with demo ink cartridges, may not be filled to full capacity but it will print a fair amount before they need changing.

    Nick


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,199 ✭✭✭Firblog


    Personal favourite at the min is this one

    Genuine ink for this is HP 950XL, which prints roughly 2500 pages for €30 approx, just alittle over the 1c per sheet.

    Very fast printing, networkable, ADF, 3 Colour Inks, ePrint.

    What more could a body ask for?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4 fafanqll


    Few times i bought cheap rubbish inks ...
    I dont print a lot in colors so i choose mono laser printer
    One replacement laser toner cost me around 30euro its enough for 1 year of medium volume print

    No chopped cartridges ,no ink on floor, hands :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,729 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    Firblog wrote: »
    Personal favourite at the min is this one

    Genuine ink for this is HP 950XL, which prints roughly 2500 pages for €30 approx, just alittle over the 1c per sheet.

    Very fast printing, networkable, ADF, 3 Colour Inks, ePrint.

    What more could a body ask for?
    The 950 ink system is also instant drying - smudge proof. Try to take a highlighter to it. /useless retail trivia made useful


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