Necessary to Ban 'first world problem' as a response

Lisha

Apologies if this is not the correct forum to raise this

One thread/conversation killer that is used a lot at the moment is the response 'first world problem '

This invariably belittles some ones opinion and just kills any conversation that would have been possible

Just an opinion I have, be interesting to see if any one agrees or not

Thanks

TouchingVirus

Wow...talk about a first world problem















:pac:

LizT

Lisha wrote: »

Apologies if this is not the correct forum to raise this

One thread/conversation killer that is used a lot at the moment is the response 'first world problem '

This invariably belittles some ones opinion and just kills any conversation that would have been possible

Just an opinion I have, be interesting to see if any one agrees or not

Thanks

Specifically in AH, or site wide?

IMO, it's not a conversation killer. It's not an original response but I don't think it inhibits debate and conversation.

Where To

I can think of several other phrases that are more repetitive and annoying tbh OP. I'm not sure many Somalians would empathise with you.:p

Tombi!

I wouldn't call it a convo killer. I'd call it annoying but it's just because it's being repeated at times.
It'll still be funny at times, too.

5starpool

Just ban stupid threads instead perhaps?

Insect Overlord

Learn to ignore it.

P_1

Why is it that people seem to get worked up over certain phrases?

Haven't 'yore ma' 'cool story boo' 'thinly veilled' and more been banned at this stage purely because people don't like the terms?

Where do you draw the line?

Skid

Lisha wrote: »

Apologies if this is not the correct forum to raise this

One thread/conversation killer that is used a lot at the moment is the response 'first world problem '

This invariably belittles some ones opinion and just kills any conversation that would have been possible

Just an opinion I have, be interesting to see if any one agrees or not

Thanks

I agree.

It is a pointless expression anyway. Everybody has "first world problems" Nobody in the developed World should define their expectations by reference to having enough to eat or somewhere to sleep.

MugMugs

Maybe after the above is completed we can move on to punctuation and grammar. Failure to adequately punctuate your sentences could result in a ten month ban?

Is this for real? If it annoys you, ignore it. If it's persistent, let the mods deal.

Lisha

MugMugs wrote: »

Maybe after the above is completed we can move on to punctuation and grammar. Failure to adequately punctuate your sentences could result in a ten month ban?

Is this for real? If it annoys you, ignore it. If it's persistent, let the mods deal.

In my opinion grammar nazi-ism is quite different to using a belittling phrase as a verbal slap down

In the cases I've seen it used the phrase makes the op or another poster feel small for having a certain view point.
We are all entitled to our opinion.

Also I was under the impression that feedback was the correct place to raise issues. If I was wrong apologies

P. Breathnach

Lisha wrote: »

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Also I was under the impression that feedback was the correct place to raise issues. If I was wrong apologies

You came to the right place to raise the matter, but it does not follow that you are entitled to have everybody agree with you.

In the forums that I follow, the expression is not used a great deal, so it generally does not annoy me. There are other forums where the style of discussion is different, where put-downs and attempts at humour (with a low success rate) are the norm. Because I don't much care for that sort of stuff, I tend not to spend much time in those forums and rarely, if ever, post in them.

The problem with banning memes is that the mob just moves on to adopt the next meme.

Lisha

P. Breathnach wrote: »

You came to the right place to raise the matter, but it does not follow that you are entitled to have everybody agree with you.

In the forums that I follow, the expression is not used a great deal, so it generally does not annoy me. There are other forums where the style of discussion is different, where put-downs and attempts at humour (with a low success rate) are the norm. Because I don't much care for that sort of stuff, I tend not to spend much time in those forums and rarely, if ever, post in them.

The problem with banning memes is that the mob just moves on to adopt the next meme.

I suppose my own philosophy is to say nothing if I have nothing nice to say.
I probably am slightly over sensitive to rudeness
So off ignoring I shall go and all will be right with the world
Thanks for all the opinions

Rabies

P_1 wrote: »

Why is it that people seem to get worked up over certain phrases?

Haven't 'yore ma' 'cool story boo' 'thinly veilled' and more been banned at this stage purely because people don't like the terms?

Where do you draw the line?

Those people that constantly use that crap are only pushing their thanks count.
Best option is to remove it from AH.

anncoates

Perhaps people could just try rebutting the response instead of trying to get it prohibited.

Talk about needing your hand held.

Absolutezero

Threads can be killed by all sorts of answers and comments. Thread death is a natural part of thread life. Get over it.

Rabies

Rabies wrote: »

Those people that constantly use that crap are only pushing their thanks count.
Best option is to remove it from AH.

Or to just not thank them

Rabies

bluewolf wrote: »

Or to just not thank them

But that doesn't kill their spirit.
Have to do it like a cold knife through the heart.

Bring back the karma system. We/I can moan about it's failings later too

P. Breathnach

anncoates wrote: »

Perhaps people could just try rebutting the response instead of trying to get it prohibited....

You can't really engage constructively with a remark like "first world problem"; if you tried, you would end up mud-wrestling with intellectual low-lifes who are at home in a mucky environment.

I think OP is right in deciding to ignore such responses.

anncoates

P. Breathnach wrote: »

You can't really engage constructively with a remark like "first world problem"; if you tried, you would end up mud-wrestling with intellectual low-lifes who are at home in a mucky environment.

I think OP is right in deciding to ignore such responses.

Ignoring it and canvassing for it to be forbidden are two different things.

P. Breathnach

anncoates wrote: »

Ignoring it and canvassing for it to be forbidden are two different things.

Sure.

OP started by suggesting that the expression be banned and, after discussion here, decided that she would ignore it. But you are still opposing her initial position, one that she no longer holds.

anncoates

P. Breathnach wrote: »

OP started by suggesting that the expression be banned and, after discussion here, decided that she would ignore it. But you are still opposing her initial position, one that she no longer holds.

Then don't quote my post and expect me not to answer? I was answering the OP and making a general point about the drive to eradicate certain lines of argument and phrases as opposed to dealing with them.

clairefontaine

There probably isn't a single user who does not have a secret ban list in their heads. And if everyone got to apply it, that would be the end of any conversation.

I agree with you that "first world problem" doesn't really add anything. A first world problem is still a problem, right? If we didn't worry about them we might become the second or third world wouldn't we? What.... should we only be talking about bad water and widespread disease and nations getting bombed? Neh. That would get boring too.

Anyhow, yes it is a pity that some are less imaginative and have nothing better to say than "first world problem," "yawn," and "me too," and a few other annoying habits that make things a lot less interesting, but what can you do? Move forward and ignore it.

Dravokivich

If I see anything that starts off with a meme. I just scroll on by. I defended "Thinly Veiled," before in AH even though I didn't like the phrase. The various phrases are nothing more than fads that people copy because it seems fashionable. If it's something that seems as stupid to you as it does to me, just ignore it.

CruelCoin

P_1 wrote: »

Why is it that people seem to get worked up over certain phrases?

Haven't 'yore ma' 'cool story boo' 'thinly veilled' and more been banned at this stage purely because people don't like the terms?

Where do you draw the line?

Don't forget "blast em with piss".

Can't be forgetting the classics.