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Disappointed.... sky go related

  • 11-01-2013 3:25pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,515 ✭✭✭


    So had a good idea, spend a lot of Sundays in the parents and thought if i bought the HDMI adaptor i could watch the football up there through my S3....

    Got the adaptor today, upscaling is very impressive in fairness, however sky go detects a hdmi cable connected and prevents the app from lainching.....


    Is there a way around this?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,378 ✭✭✭✭jimmycrackcorm


    Have you tried running the app first then connecting the cable?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,216 ✭✭✭✭listermint


    Use it on a laptop instead ? genius as it sounds..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,515 ✭✭✭tupac_healy


    listermint wrote: »
    Use it on a laptop instead ? genius as it sounds..

    Did all that before, a lot of dragging cables and laptops around, would be much easier to just bring up the phone ya know....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,515 ✭✭✭tupac_healy


    Have you tried running the app first then connecting the cable?

    No, im guessing it will stop working when it detects a hdmi


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,336 ✭✭✭tonc76


    Whenever I've connected my laptop to my TV for sky go the picture has been crap/unwatchable. New laptop/Smart TV/UPC 25 mb broadband.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,515 ✭✭✭tupac_healy


    Have you tried running the app first then connecting the cable?

    No, im guessing it will stop working when it detects a hdmi


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,462 ✭✭✭projectgtr


    tonc76 wrote: »
    Whenever I've connected my laptop to my TV for sky go the picture has been crap/unwatchable. New laptop/Smart TV/UPC 25 mb broadband.

    Used it in my dads, 2 year old HP/Old Panasonic Veira Plasma/ UPC25Mb over hdmi and picture quality was perfect ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,515 ✭✭✭tupac_healy


    Have you tried running the app first then connecting the cable?


    Yeah, as I thought, it finds the HDMI straight away and stops the app, bad form on Sky's part if you ask me...


    Is there any way around this? Rooting etc???


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    No way around it I'm afraid, just be lucky that Sky Go runs on your phone at all!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,184 ✭✭✭Patsy fyre


    This is the reason they are so slow realising apps for Android. Something to do with copyright bla bla bla......


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,877 ✭✭✭donspeekinglesh


    Rooting etc???
    That'll stop it working altogether. Rooted devices not allowed, because only dirty pirates root their phones.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,326 ✭✭✭ciarsd


    Patsy fyre wrote: »
    This is the reason they are so slow realising apps for Android. Something to do with copyright bla bla bla......

    More like screen resolution, hardware differences, multiple manufacturers with little or no standard to stick to.. makes it hard to develop for the 'masses' in the Android space. Sky usually cater for the top devices across the HTC/Samsung/LG/Nexus/Sony range.

    HTC Desire
    HTC Desire S
    HTC Desire HD
    HTC Incredible S
    HTC Sensation
    HTC Sensation XE
    HTC Desire X
    HTC One V
    HTC One S
    HTC One X
    HTC One XL
    Samsung Galaxy S
    Samsung Galaxy S2
    Samsung Galaxy S3
    Samsung Galaxy S3 LTE
    Samsung Galaxy Ace 2
    Samsung Galaxy Nexus
    Samsung Galaxy Note
    Samsung Galaxy Note 2
    Samsung Galaxy Note 2 LTE
    LG 4X HD
    LG Nexus 4
    Nexus 7” Tablet
    Sony Xperia S
    Sony Xperia T


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,184 ✭✭✭Patsy fyre


    Fragmentation isn't ideal but no problem for Netflix.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,875 ✭✭✭✭MugMugs


    tonc76 wrote: »
    Whenever I've connected my laptop to my TV for sky go the picture has been crap/unwatchable. New laptop/Smart TV/UPC 25 mb broadband.

    Never had an issue and thats with archaic bit's of gear at this stage...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,277 ✭✭✭evolutionqy7


    ciarsd wrote: »

    More like screen resolution, hardware differences, multiple manufacturers with little or no standard to stick to.. makes it hard to develop for the 'masses' in the Android space. Sky usually cater for the top devices across the HTC/Samsung/LG/Nexus/Sony range.

    Their just trying to be annoying. Its so stupid that I can't use KT because my S3 is rooted. Some one up there controlling that part has always been a dick.

    Little small companies release apps on multiple platforms. Why can't a massive media company do it...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,706 ✭✭✭120_Minutes


    bad form on Sky's part if you ask me...

    it's called "protecting their business"

    the object of sky go is not for you to be sneaky and share your sky sub on a big screen via a phone, its for you to watch your sky sub on your phone "on the go"

    hardly bad form.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,184 ✭✭✭Patsy fyre


    it's called "protecting their business"

    the object of sky go is not for you to be sneaky and share your sky sub on a big screen via a phone, its for you to watch your sky sub on your phone "on the go"

    hardly bad form.

    Yes, but again, No such isssues with Netflix.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    it's called "protecting their business"

    the object of sky go is not for you to be sneaky and share your sky sub on a big screen via a phone, its for you to watch your sky sub on your phone "on the go"

    hardly bad form.

    You can share your sky sub on a big screen via a laptop though. Also via an xbox. It is not supposed to be just "on the go" as you say.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,706 ✭✭✭120_Minutes


    So why do they prevent it then? out of the badness of their black corporate hearts?

    they know the first thing someone is gonna do is to "borrow" someones sky login so they can watch it on their telly and avoid paying the sky sub.....its sound business sense. not bad form. I totally understand why they do it.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    So why do they prevent it then? out of the badness of their black corporate hearts?

    Yes
    they know the first thing someone is gonna do is to "borrow" someones sky login so they can watch it on their telly and avoid paying the sky sub.....its sound business sense. not bad form. I totally understand why they do it.

    Yes, but you can have at most 2 devices registered at a time and only make one switch a month or something like this.
    Also, even if that wasn't the case, your logic of borrowing a sub could still be done with sky go on a laptop, xbox etc. so your point is irrelevant.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,706 ✭✭✭120_Minutes


    Yes, but you can have at most 2 devices registered at a time and only make one switch a month or something like this.
    Also, even if that wasn't the case, your logic of borrowing a sub could still be done with sky go on a laptop, xbox etc. so your point is irrelevant.

    I think it's very relevant, the app is designed to be used on a phone only. they have every right to do it, not that i agree with it. as an xbox is connected to a tv there're not likely to restrict its use, and i'm no software engineer but if they were able to restrict its output from a laptop (which i dont think is possible to do) they would.

    I'd say the usage from phones and tablets far outnumbers the usage on laptops/xbox anyway, so like i said before they're protecting their interests...



    .....and not at all bad form.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,277 ✭✭✭evolutionqy7


    Sky has a three device limitation per account

    i.e. Xbox, Windows Media Center, Sky Go


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,515 ✭✭✭tupac_healy



    it's called "protecting their business"

    the object of sky go is not for you to be sneaky and share your sky sub on a big screen via a phone, its for you to watch your sky sub on your phone "on the go"

    hardly bad form.

    First off, going to assume when you say 'you' you don't directly mean me personally & are talking in the more general use of the word?

    Assuming you are correct and they are protecting their business they are not doing a very good job. As pointed out above, laptops can show sky go programs on a tv, so why pick out phones??? Also as a part 2 to this, why have other companies not prevented this sort of thing?


    The sad fact of it all is that your right, yet soool wrong. You call it 'protecting' when lets call a spade a spade here, its ****in greed simple as. In my opinion....


    I PAY for sky
    I PAY for sky sports
    I BOUGHT my android device
    I PAY my mobile contract every month
    I BOUGHT a HDMI connection for this purpose


    Not giving out here as I know others pay and do the same but to misread the situation as you have and call it protecting is plain laughable


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,706 ✭✭✭120_Minutes


    First off, going to assume when you say 'you' you don't directly mean me personally & are talking in the more general use of the word?

    Assuming you are correct and they are protecting their business they are not doing a very good job. As pointed out above, laptops can show sky go programs on a tv, so why pick out phones??? Also as a part 2 to this, why have other companies not prevented this sort of thing?


    The sad fact of it all is that your right, yet soool wrong. You call it 'protecting' when lets call a spade a spade here, its ****in greed simple as. In my opinion....


    I PAY for sky
    I PAY for sky sports
    I BOUGHT my android device
    I PAY my mobile contract every month
    I BOUGHT a HDMI connection for this purpose


    Not giving out here as I know others pay and do the same but to misread the situation as you have and call it protecting is plain laughable


    first off, you assume correctly.

    secondly because the technology exists that they can do it on phones, and not on other devices (see my post above)

    secondly part 2, other companies arent sky.

    thirdly, you are right you have paid for/bought all those things. but you also agreed to skys terms and conditions......right?

    saying "its bad form" that sky dont let you view sky go via a phones hdmi output is like saying its bad form that mobile networks simlock their phones.

    it's not bad form, its business, and even though i may not agree with it, it is what it is.

    dont like it? dont give sky your business.

    *edit* Also, the most obvious point, which should really be staring us all in the face is: for sky go to work, you must have a sky account. to have a sky account, no doubt you have a sky box, which is hooked up to your tv. if thats the case, why do you need to output sky go to your tv anyway?

    Sky is marketed for people who want to watch sky while temporarily away from their tv, eg on a laptop, tablet or phone...ie on the go.....hooking it up to your tv is not that, and its not gonna be a feature they'll give you.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,515 ✭✭✭tupac_healy




    first off, you assume correctly.

    secondly because the technology exists that they can do it on phones, and not on other devices (see my post above)

    secondly part 2, other companies arent sky.

    thirdly, you are right you have paid for/bought all those things. but you also agreed to skys terms and conditions......right?

    saying "its bad form" that sky dont let you view sky go via a phones hdmi output is like saying its bad form that mobile networks simlock their phones.

    it's not bad form, its business, and even though i may not agree with it, it is what it is.

    dont like it? dont give sky your business.

    *edit* Also, the most obvious point, which should really be staring us all in the face is: for sky go to work, you must have a sky account. to have a sky account, no doubt you have a sky box, which is hooked up to your tv. if thats the case, why do you need to output sky go to your tv anyway?

    Sky is marketed for people who want to watch sky while temporarily away from their tv, eg on a laptop, tablet or phone...ie on the go.....hooking it up to your tv is not that, and its not gonna be a feature they'll give you.


    its pointless arguing some of the above as we differ in our views, but i will pick out a few points...

    Terms, firstly Im sure im not the only one with the hand up here, never have/never will read em. They are there to cover said company. Nothing more to say on this other than we are binded to adhere to whatever sky want us to do here, life i suppose....

    Regarding sky and my business, I would like to expand on this but I won't. I'll say this though, if sky did monopolize football rights they would be told where to go, not just by me id be guessing....


    Regards my home setup, its an obvious question with a very very simple answer. Kids. I (as a paying sky customer) would prefer to watch the football in HD on my small tv in the backroom whilst smallie watches tiny pop!!! Also, yes it would be handy up in the parents, not going to lie about that.


    I never expected them to 'give' me that feature but when they take it away..... like i said, bad form.


    I sincerely hope someone out there clever enough figures a way around this (not likely)... its just like the time when sky were trying to stop the pubs showing the football on the foreign channels and they couldn't.....


    Side note: I think locked phones are a joke also and bad form considering they can be unlocked, at least the OWNER of the device is just that....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,706 ✭✭✭120_Minutes




    1. Regards my home setup, its an obvious question with a very very simple answer. Kids. I (as a paying sky customer) would prefer to watch the football in HD on my small tv in the backroom whilst smallie watches tiny pop!!!


    2.I never expected them to 'give' me that feature but when they take it away..... like i said, bad form.




    3.Side note: I think locked phones are a joke also and bad form considering they can be unlocked, at least the OWNER of the device is just that....

    1. sky multiroom

    2. they cant take away what was never there to begin with.

    3. you are not the full owner. you buy a phone from a network store, it is subsidised, a little bit on prepay, and a lot more on bill pay. once you pay back the network either in credit or in line rental/revenue they unlock it for you then you can do what you like. want an unlocked phone on day 1? buy it full whack online or from a non affiliated shop.


    ...thems the breaks.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,515 ✭✭✭tupac_healy



    1. sky multiroom

    2. they cant take away what was never there to begin with.

    3. you are not the full owner. you buy a phone from a network store, it is subsidised, a little bit on prepay, and a lot more on bill pay. once you pay back the network either in credit or in line rental/revenue they unlock it for you then you can do what you like. want an unlocked phone on day 1? buy it full whack online or from a non affiliated shop.


    ...thems the breaks.

    1. OR go the laptop to tv route, or ipad route....

    2. How would you describe it? Blocking/removing/disabling... getting pretty playground now if we are going to disagree on the wording of it....

    3. I think its just an Irish thing (yes I'm Irish) to just sit back and say 'ah sure' to any **** that is thrown at us, we have a good moan about things and get on with it. Thank christ not everyone adopts this (your) attitude towards these things. We'd have no jailbreaks, roms, torrents etc!!! We would simply get our company spec products out of the box and conform accordingly to whatever **** protocols they set out for us!!!!!

    You say in point 3 that my phone is not mine since i'm on bill, correct, now should that prevent me from installing a custom rom? Since I am not the owner I should conform to whatever rules the provider set out? Ha ha!!!! Doubt it, what a boring world we would live in.....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,277 ✭✭✭evolutionqy7


    Dude just stop complaining. You just don't want to pay for a multi room subscription and that's it. I don't think the problem in regards to that matter is with Sky Go.

    The only problems I can see with Sky Go is that they wont let you use it with a rooted phone, and they wont allow the app to run on non approved hardware.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,841 ✭✭✭lertsnim


    I find that the picture quality is worse than what it was before


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,184 ✭✭✭Patsy fyre


    lertsnim wrote: »
    I find that the picture quality is worse than what it was before
    Must be a connection problem on your side.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,706 ✭✭✭120_Minutes



    You say in point 3 that my phone is not mine since i'm on bill, correct, now should that prevent me from installing a custom rom? Since I am not the owner I should conform to whatever rules the provider set out? Ha ha!!!! Doubt it, what a boring world we would live in.....

    It doesnt prevent you from rooting/flashing. in fact under an EU directive it doesnt even void your warranty.

    my point was in regard to sim locking, which you also thought was bad form, and is put in place to ensure the networks get back some revenue from you. rooting/flashing at its core doesnt cost your provider any revenue, unless you're using that route to unlock your phone.

    so fire away, i'm running a custom rom of vanilla 4.2.1 and i love it.

    I'm done on this subject, you seem hard done by the fact that there are t&c's in place by sky to use their app and you dont like it simply cos it doesnt suit you. They have the right to do it, and you have the right to complain about it. but once again, its not "bad form" on their part.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,751 ✭✭✭Ste-


    Vaguely remember someone on XDA stating they ripped open the apk and saw that hdmi output was blocked, not sure if you could hack that feature back into the apk/app but any talk of that here I'm sure will be largely frowned upon.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 573 ✭✭✭MacGyver


    Their just trying to be annoying. Its so stupid that I can't use KT because my S3 is rooted. Some one up there controlling that part has always been a dick.

    Little small companies release apps on multiple platforms. Why can't a massive media company do it...

    Try using the "temp unroot" option from the super user app. This works on my Desire HD using a custom rom (CodefireX 4.0.4)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,277 ✭✭✭evolutionqy7


    MacGyver wrote: »
    Try using the "temp unroot" option from the super user app. This works on my Desire HD using a custom rom (CodefireX 4.0.4)

    Tried that a while back, didn't work on my S3 nor the Nexus 7


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,877 ✭✭✭donspeekinglesh



    Tried that a while back, didn't work on my S3
    or my S2.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,515 ✭✭✭tupac_healy


    Dude just stop complaining. You just don't want to pay for a multi room subscription and that's it. I don't think the problem in regards to that matter is with Sky Go.

    The only problems I can see with Sky Go is that they wont let you use it with a rooted phone, and they wont allow the app to run on non approved hardware.

    Nope, had multi room, cancelled it... was of no use to me. I suggest re-reading what the actual point I was making was... dude.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,515 ✭✭✭tupac_healy



    It doesnt prevent you from rooting/flashing. in fact under an EU directive it doesnt even void your warranty.

    my point was in regard to sim locking, which you also thought was bad form, and is put in place to ensure the networks get back some revenue from you. rooting/flashing at its core doesnt cost your provider any revenue, unless you're using that route to unlock your phone.

    so fire away, i'm running a custom rom of vanilla 4.2.1 and i love it.

    I'm done on this subject, you seem hard done by the fact that there are t&c's in place by sky to use their app and you dont like it simply cos it doesnt suit you. They have the right to do it, and you have the right to complain about it. but once again, its not "bad form" on their part.

    So of someone gets sky go working on a rooted phone & finds a way to get the hdmi to tv working then you wont use it?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,515 ✭✭✭tupac_healy



    So of someone gets sky go working on a rooted phone & finds a way to get the hdmi to tv working then you wont use it?


    Or even easier!!!!

    If sky go was hacked to work on rooted phones would you honestly say you wouldn't use it or would you stick to your point of 'Sky say its wrong, so no'


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    3. I think its just an Irish thing (yes I'm Irish) to just sit back and say 'ah sure' to any **** that is thrown at us, we have a good moan about things and get on with it. Thank christ not everyone adopts this (your) attitude towards these things. We'd have no jailbreaks, roms, torrents etc!!! We would simply get our company spec products out of the box and conform accordingly to whatever **** protocols they set out for us!!!!!
    If locked phones didn't exist then you'd be constantly paying €600+ for new smartphones. No network wants to heavily subsidise a handset, only for it to be used on another network. On billpay you're effectively paying off the subsidy over 18-24 months.

    If you want an unlocked handset, buy it SIM free at the full price.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,706 ✭✭✭120_Minutes




    Or even easier!!!!

    If sky go was hacked to work on rooted phones would you honestly say you wouldn't use it or would you stick to your point of 'Sky say its wrong, so no'


    You're missing my point. Hack away all you want. I never said that sky say its wrong. Sky just don't allow you to do it, and you feel hard done by that. I, however, don't.

    I have no need to output sky go from my phone so to answer your question: no I probably wouldn't use it. But that's because I've no need to not because I'm doing what sky tell me to do.

    I'll repeat what I said before because you seem to be missing it: I didn't say I agreed with what sky do regarding the app, but they have every right to do it.


    Also you said that you cancelled multi room as it was of no use to you, yet earlier you sad you wanted sky in two rooms..... That seems like a use to me....

    I think you just want multi room for free...


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,515 ✭✭✭tupac_healy




    You're missing my point. Hack away all you want. I never said that sky say its wrong. Sky just don't allow you to do it, and you feel hard done by that. I, however, don't.

    I have no need to output sky go from my phone so to answer your question: no I probably wouldn't use it. But that's because I've no need to not because I'm doing what sky tell me to do.

    I'll repeat what I said before because you seem to be missing it: I didn't say I agreed with what sky do regarding the app, but they have every right to do it.


    Also you said that you cancelled multi room as it was of no use to you, yet earlier you sad you wanted sky in two rooms..... That seems like a use to me....

    I think you just want multi room for free...

    You say I miss your point yet I've never said sky were outside their rights to do this? That is the point your making but I never argued that point? I think maybe its your missing what I'm saying...


    Also I asked you if you would use sky go FULL STOP if they cracked it, not what I was planning to do...




    And just to repeat and be clear (again) I do not want multi room!!!!! Even for free!!!!

    Your getring away from the main point here, which is where we differ, the core matter of the issue is not weather sky CAN do this rather SHOULD they do this.


    Ah look we can post and post on this all day long, at the end of it we just have different views on this & neither of us are going to change that viewpoint anytime soon, rendering this pointless!!! We have made our points


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,841 ✭✭✭lertsnim


    Patsy fyre wrote: »
    Must be a connection problem on your side.

    No it's not. Friends phone displays it perfectly on the same connection. I imagine Sky made a balls of the app for some devices


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