Another school shooting in the US

sfwcork

Reports of a shooting in Taft CA .Reports saying 2 have been shot

Mint Sauce

sfwcork wrote: »

Reports of a shooting in Taft CA .Reports saying 2 killed

What reports?

Biggins

http://www.ibtimes.com/taft-high-school-shooting-2-shot-kern-county-california-alleged-shooter-police-custody-report

At least two people were shot at Taft Union High School in Kern County, Calif., on Thursday morning, and authorities said that they have the suspected shooter in custody, according to local media reports.

“TAFT HIGH UPDATE: Officials say at least 2 shot; shooter now in police custody,” KABC in Los Angeles tweeted around 9:32 a.m. local time.

The television station originally said one person had been shot at the high school. The incident occurred around 9 a.m. and the suspect was arrrested about 20 minutes later, the Los Angeles Times said. Additional details were sketcy, and it was unclear whether the two victims were students.

Several Twitter users commented on the latest school shooting, which occurred less than a month after Adam Lanza killed 20 children and six staff members at Sandy Hook Elementary School in Newtown, Conn.

The Newtown shooting has spurred calls for harsher gun-control legislation, including the reinstatement of the assault weapons ban. Lanza used an assault weapon during the attack, which ended after he shot himself.

“JESUS CHRIST. There's been a school shooting in Kern County. How much longer will we let this go on in America?” said Twitter user @silver_locusts.

“Another school shooting in Kern County CA - this will not stop so now what?” added Judy Golden.

“Sad to read abt [sic] the shootings in Kern County in California,” opined Kamla Bhatt.

Taft is about 40 miles southwest of Bakersfield.

Sarky

Another one? Bloody hell.

Mint Sauce

Biggins wrote: »

http://www.ibtimes.com/taft-high-school-shooting-2-shot-kern-county-california-alleged-shooter-police-custody-report

Ahhhhh.

Drakares

Where are these reports? Can't find any on any news sites

Just make a sticky thread for these US Shootings at this stage. Or a merger. Or a sub-forum.

Biggins

Omackeral wrote: »

Just make a sticky thread for these US Shootings at this stage. Or a merger. Or a sub-forum.

Or just make a Twitter thread thats busy every day: https://twitter.com/GunDeaths

squod

RIP

Mint Sauce

breaking news now on the Beeb.

Mint Sauce

squod wrote: »

RIP

No ones confirmed dead.

montyrebel

if its just the 2 people shot, probably a broken up couple, he shoots her then himself or vice versa imo

Richard Hillman

If all the students had guns this never would have happened. They need to start handing guns out to kids to protect themselves.

Smcgie

Do you know what - call me heartless but I don't care. If they cannot sort thier bloody gun laws and control who can walk around with an assualt rifle then I won't raise a single eyebrow at these news articles.

I am a gun owner here in Ireland and if this happened near me and the government said we want to recall all guns I would have no hesistation in handing mine in because I'm mature enough to know that the world would be a safer place without assault rifles being sold in Walmart

longshanks

If only they'd arm the teachers and the reliable students, put armed security on all the doors of schools and teach people to be bullet proof. I mean, it's obvious isn't it?

donvito99

Suggest US School/mall shootings forum.

MadsL

The gun control debate following this will be interesting to follow. Weapon is reported as being a shotgun.

MadsL

There is a media blackout on suicides in Ireland. Perhaps a similar blackout should apply in reporting school shootings in the US.

DominoDub

One more ongoing in Conroe Texas ...source SKYNEWS

Also one @ Lone Star Community college - Houston Texas !!!

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2013/01/22/lone-star-community-college-houston-lockdown-shot/1855707/

StinkyMunkey

DominoDub wrote: »

One more ongoing in Conroe Texas ...source SKYNEWS

Also one @ Lone Star Community college - Houston Texas !!!

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2013/01/22/lone-star-community-college-houston-lockdown-shot/1855707/

Seems like a growing trend, it's like the new fad!

Witcher

StinkyMunkey wrote: »

Seems like a growing trend, it's like the new fad!

They're seeking notoriety..a psychologist/psychiatrist on Sky News went into it all after Aurora and said shootings like this happen in clusters..usually within 30 days of a major one which gets national attention, there was one within that time period after Aurora. Sandy Hook has got more publicity because of kids being targeted, plus the debates on gun control keeping it in the news so there have been 2/3? lesser ones since then.

StinkyMunkey

Blay wrote: »

They're seeking notoriety..a psychologist/psychiatrist on Sky News went into it all after Aurora and said shootings like this happen in clusters..usually within 30 days of a major one which gets national attention, there was one within that time period after Aurora. Sandy Hook has got more publicity because of kids being targeted, plus the debates on gun control keeping it in the news so there have been 2/3? lesser ones since then.

Well hopefully they lose interest quick, it doesn't make for happy viewing.

PseudoFamous

MadsL wrote: »

There is a media blackout on suicides in Ireland. Perhaps a similar blackout should apply in reporting school shootings in the US.

why would you report a suicide in the media? Do you report every death by cancer or liver failure?

MadsL

PseudoFamous wrote: »

why would you report a suicide in the media? Do you report every death by cancer or liver failure?

How about the fact that a fella jumped off the roof in Smithfield, Dublin and didn't quite managed to kill himself, he later died in the ambulance. Press were prevented from reporting it.

Now I can see the Herald reporting that if they were not prevented from doing so.

We should stop reporting mass shootings, it is precisely what the mentally ill are craving..."I'll show 'em, they won't forget me" when forgetting these people is exactly what should happen. No more body counts, no more "worse since Columbine" no more reciting the honour roll of mass killers.

What's more that gagging of the press could be agreed tomorrow by the media. No change to the constitution, no need to fight the issue in Congress and the Senate.

I guarantee it would reduce the number of these events dramatically.

StinkyMunkey

PseudoFamous wrote: »

why would you report a suicide in the media? Do you report every death by cancer or liver failure?

Suicides are not reported unless seen as a juicy story.

An article about suicide in Ireland:

http://www.irishcentral.com/news/Suicide-rate-rising-rapidly-in-Ireland-as-recession-grips-138771164.html

Boombastic

one person feared dead, 2 shooters, 1 still on the loose :eek:





WTF is wrong with these people? I have my suspicions.


Edit: This one happened in Texas, is the other one in cali?

MadsL

DominoDub wrote: »

One more ongoing in Conroe Texas ...source SKYNEWS

Also one @ Lone Star Community college - Houston Texas !!!

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2013/01/22/lone-star-community-college-houston-lockdown-shot/1855707/

Why does this need to be reported anywhere but Texas?

National media really need to take some responsibility for making these people famous.

Then we also get this nonsense out of them...

Pennsylvania girl, 5, suspended for talk of 'shooting' a Hello Kitty 'bubble gun'

http://www.cnn.com/2013/01/21/us/pennsylvania-girl-suspended/index.html

MadsL

Now watch and see how little attention this shooting gets compared with this one:
http://www.mercurynews.com/breaking-news/ci_22425522/pittsburg-boy-16-killed-shooting-after-fight-police

The ill are drawn to become famous/notorious
Media are create famous/notorious out of killers
Media report killings
Media make the ill famous/notorious


We have to break that cycle.

MadsL

StinkyMunkey wrote: »

Suicides are not reported unless seen as a juicy story.

Suicides are not reported full stop unless very very high profile.

An article about suicide in Ireland:

And not about A suicide...

StinkyMunkey

MadsL wrote: »

Suicides are not reported full stop unless very very high profile.



And not about A suicide...

http://www.irishcentral.com/news/Family-of-bullied-12-year-old-Irish-girl-who-committed-suicide-left-devastated--180979661.html

O.0

MadsL

Boombastic wrote: »

one person feared dead, 2 shooters, 1 still on the loose :eek:

This appears to be a fight, not a rampage. Yet because it is in a college - media hysteria.

MadsL

StinkyMunkey wrote: »

http://www.irishcentral.com/news/Family-of-bullied-12-year-old-Irish-girl-who-committed-suicide-left-devastated--180979661.html

O.0

irish Central is not an Irish newspaper - nor is it based in Ireland.

Teen suicides are rarely reported now because they cause clusters of copycats.

PseudoFamous

StinkyMunkey wrote: »

Suicides are not reported unless seen as a juicy story.

Same with every type of death. You see stories about cancer deaths if the person was interesting/important enough. It may sound harsh but if you're nobody and don't die in an extraordinary way, you don't get noticed. Also, on sentimental grounds it may be cruel to the family to publish stories about the average deceased, it's also tasteless and exploitation.

Locally a few people have gone missing, and when it becomes apparent that it was suicide once their body is found, they do get a small mention, though it's usually only in a local paper as it holds little relevance to the nation.

MadsL wrote: »

How about the fact that a fella jumped off the roof in Smithfield, Dublin and didn't quite managed to kill himself, he later died in the ambulance. Press were prevented from reporting it.

Now I can see the Herald reporting that if they were not prevented from doing so.

"Prevented from reporting it"? By who? Who's agenda would it be to prevent the reporting of suicides? I find it far more likely it's just that deaths of average people don't sell papers, and it's just tasteless and offensive to publish stories about them.

StinkyMunkey

PseudoFamous wrote: »

Same with every type of death. You see stories about cancer deaths if the person was interesting/important enough. It may sound harsh but if you're nobody and don't die in an extraordinary way, you don't get noticed. Also, on sentimental grounds it may be cruel to the family to publish stories about the average deceased, it's also tasteless and exploitation.

Locally a few people have gone missing, and when it becomes apparent that it was suicide once their body is found, they do get a small mention, though it's usually only in a local paper as it holds little relevance to the nation..

Agreed, once your ordinary or didn't die under extreme circumstances, they don't really think its "news".

mikom

MadsL wrote: »

Why does this need to be reported anywhere but Texas?

Yeah..........

internet

StinkyMunkey

MadsL wrote: »

irish Central is not an Irish newspaper - nor is it based in Ireland.

Teen suicides are rarely reported now because they cause clusters of copycats.

My mistake - Irish source:

http://www.independent.ie/national-news/schoolgirl-lara-burns-laid-to-rest-in-her-favourite-horseriding-outfit-3309434.html

Boombastic

Am I missing some posts? Was this a Irish person who took their own life in a school in America?

StinkyMunkey

Boombastic wrote: »

Am I missing some posts? Was this a Irish person who took their own life in a school in America?

Good question. Things like car crashes and suicides belong in a thread about school shootings in America - subtle sarcasm, for anyone who misses it. It deflects the real issue.

MadsL

PseudoFamous wrote: »

Same with every type of death. You see stories about cancer deaths if the person was interesting/important enough. It may sound harsh but if you're nobody and don't die in an extraordinary way, you don't get noticed. Also, on sentimental grounds it may be cruel to the family to publish stories about the average deceased, it's also tasteless and exploitation.

Locally a few people have gone missing, and when it becomes apparent that it was suicide once their body is found, they do get a small mention, though it's usually only in a local paper as it holds little relevance to the nation.

"Prevented from reporting it"? By who? Who's agenda would it be to prevent the reporting of suicides? I find it far more likely it's just that deaths of average people don't sell papers, and it's just tasteless and offensive to publish stories about them.

I'm not making it up...there was an agreement to "underreport" suicide.
http://www.hse.ie/eng/services/Publications/services/Mentalhealth/Media_Guidelines_for_the_Portrayal_of_Suicide_3.pdf

Although some maintain that it has not reduced the overall rate. See the opening quote in that article (won't cut and paste correctly)

StinkyMunkey wrote: »

Good question. Things like car crashes and suicides belong in a thread about school shootings in America - subtle sarcasm, for anyone who misses it. It deflects the real issue.

Oh ffs! I brought up the way the media handles suicides as part of a discussion on shootings where I said not 10 posts back;

MadsL wrote: »

We should stop reporting mass shootings, it is precisely what the mentally ill are craving..."I'll show 'em, they won't forget me" when forgetting these people is exactly what should happen. No more body counts, no more "worse since Columbine" no more reciting the honour roll of mass killers.

What's more that gagging of the press could be agreed tomorrow by the media. No change to the constitution, no need to fight the issue in Congress and the Senate.

I guarantee it would reduce the number of these events dramatically.

Do you actually read what people post or just find some little thing to latch onto to derail the thread? You are dangling over my ignore list at the moment - try and keep up with the actual points being made.

MadsL

StinkyMunkey wrote: »

It deflects the real issue.

The real issue being why the gun was invented in the 13th Century according to your recent posts :rolleyes:

MadsL

Boombastic wrote: »

Am I missing some posts? Was this a Irish person who took their own life in a school in America?

No -just two threads with almost exactly the same title in AH. Confusing.

Mods? Merge?

pabloh999

MadsL wrote: »

This appears to be a fight, not a rampage. Yet because it is in a college - media hysteria.

Ah sure that's ok then :rolleyes:

MadsL

pabloh999 wrote: »

Ah sure that's ok then :rolleyes:

In other news 155,000 people died today. You want an RIP, so sad, like if it maks you cry evrytim, for all of them?

Three people got wounded today in Texas. A couple of idiots went to jail.

Can we tell the media to calm the fuck down now?