How did God aid this Aussie family to survive a wildfire?

gurramok

http://www.thejournal.ie/australia-family-shelters-wildfires-water-747493-Jan2013/
In the midst of a huge wildfire, this family survived by jumping into the water under a jetty..

TheJournal wrote:

The family credits God with their survival from the fire that destroyed around 90 homes in Dunalley.

Seriously, i'm at a loss how someone can say such a thing without any explanation as to how God helped.
So how did God help, did he/she/it appear, hold back the fire and rescue them? Can anyone explain the divine intervention, any ideas??

Gone Drinking

What difference does it make what they think saved them? They're alive, that's all that matters.

Whatever they thought about that gave them the strenght/hope to keep holding on and surviving is of no consequence in my opinion.

If you don't believe in something, then don't believe in it. Why question others on their beliefs or choices?

hairyprincess

Another God bashing thread! Well there's a surprise

Death and Taxes

Glad there alive , but the "God" saved us, I really do not believe she exists, so she couldnt have saved them.

mikom

God should not have started the fire in the first place.

im invisible

Jesus :rolleyes:

Difference Engine

Look at how many Oscars and sports championships God has helped people win. A bit of firefighting is hardly beyond him.

Seriously though, people can believe whatever they want. I don't believe god had anything to do with their survival but theres no need to mock them.

dmc17

im invisible wrote: »

Jesus :rolleyes:

Christ :rolleyes:

ballsymchugh

hairyprincess wrote: »

Another God bashing thread! Well there's a surprise

if only there was a specific forum for this kind of thread...

Sandwlch

mikom wrote: »

God should not have started the fire in the first place.

She didnt. The Devil did. And God thwarted his evil plan by saving them.

gurramok

Gone Drinking wrote: »

What difference does it make what they think saved them? They're alive, that's all that matters.

Whatever they thought about that gave them the strenght/hope to keep holding on and surviving is of no consequence in my opinion.

If you don't believe in something, then don't believe in it. Why question others on their beliefs or choices?

So its ok for anyone to say anything publicily that saves us in a crisis situation without any question. Next time someone is saved and quotes aliens, we're ok with that quote so don't question it!

3ndahalfof6

He created water.

Yakult

Some nice shots of the family there for next year's Christmas cards. "Huddle up there guys, smiiiiilllllleeeee!! Why aren't you guys smili... oh right yeah." *snap snap*

Nodin

Sandwlch wrote: »

She didnt. The Devil did. And God thwarted his evil plan by saving them.

What if God started the fire and the Devil thwarted his plan by saving them.

wandatowell

God.............. YOU ROCK BRAH!

My name is URL

Apparently they had been urged many times to evacuate the home and premises but refused to do so. They could have easily been killed.. obviously great that they weren't but the guy is no hero.. he endangered the lives of his kids with his macho stubbornness.

frozenfrozen

boards.ie saved that family. if you don't believe in it, then don't believe in it. But at least respect my beliefs. I'll be passing around a donations bucket soon

gurramok

Difference Engine wrote: »

Seriously though, people can believe whatever they want. I don't believe god had anything to do with their survival but theres no need to mock them.

Where was I mocking them? I simply asked for an explanation, a serious one. Obviously not forthcoming from the "dare not ask" brigade.

HondaSami

gurramok wrote: »

Where was I mocking them? I simply asked for an explanation, a serious one. Obviously not forthcoming from the "dare not ask" brigade.

There is no explanation, only the people involved can explain why they think god saved them and not others.

the_syco

Since the beginning of time, man has blamed all the weird sh|t on gods. Rainbows, sunlight, death. So thanking the toothfairy god for saving them isn't too long a stretch of the imagination.

=-=

Also, look at it the other way; they thank god, and random holy people give them stuff to rebuild their home, as "god" helped them. Some holy people think as such;

Be nice
????
Profit (in heaven when they're dead)

nice_very

Gone Drinking wrote: »

What difference does it make what they think saved them? They're alive, that's all that matters.

Whatever they thought about that gave them the strenght/hope to keep holding on and surviving is of no consequence in my opinion.

If you don't believe in something, then don't believe in it. Why question others on their beliefs or choices?

why have god and religion rammed down our throats at every turn? see it works both ways

kneemos

gurramok wrote: »

Where was I mocking them? I simply asked for an explanation, a serious one. Obviously not forthcoming from the "dare not ask" brigade.

They probably believe it was gods will or the grace of god that allowed them to survive.There is no dare not ask brigade just fed up of atheists brigade.

Difference Engine

nice_very wrote: »

why have god and religion rammed down our throats at every turn? see it works both ways

Who is ramming it down you throat at every turn? I'm not being sarcastic, I genuinely want to know.

I'm an atheist and no one ever bothers me about religion. The only place I ever encounter it is here and most of my family are religious.

gurramok

HondaSami wrote: »

There is no explanation, only the people involved can explain why they think god saved them and not others.

So its a secret not known to us but yet they publically announce Gods involvement.

kneemos wrote: »

They probably believe it was gods will or the grace of god that allowed them to survive.There is no dare not ask brigade just fed up of atheists brigade.

How did God give grace or will to rescue them, some sort of inner strength you reckon or divine intervention? Or we not allowed to ask!

Or is it just a saying like "Thank God our lucky stars"?

nice_very

Difference Engine wrote: »

Who is ramming it down you throat at every turn? I'm not being sarcastic, I genuinely want to know.

I'm an atheist and no one ever bothers me about religion. The only place I ever encounter it is here and most of my family are religious.

the angelus, schools being STILL run by religions, even our own language (hello = god be with you), opinions of its leaders in the media/politics, its in the constitution....

Chucken

gurramok wrote: »

http://www.thejournal.ie/australia-family-shelters-wildfires-water-747493-Jan2013/
In the midst of a huge wildfire, this family survived by jumping into the water under a jetty..


Seriously, i'm at a loss how someone can say such a thing without any explanation as to how God helped.
So how did God help, did he/she/it appear, hold back the fire and rescue them? Can anyone explain the divine intervention, any ideas??

Some people have faith in God, others dont.
/thread

Difference Engine

gurramok wrote: »

Where was I mocking them? I simply asked for an explanation, a serious one. Obviously not forthcoming from the "dare not ask" brigade.

There is no explanation because it didn't happen. I didn't mean you were mocking them, sorry if it appeared that way. I just think that's the way this thread is going to go.

kneemos

gurramok wrote: »

So its a secret not known to us but yet they publically announce Gods involvement.



How did God give grace or will to rescue them, some sort of inner strength you reckon or divine intervention? Or we not allowed to ask!

Or is it just a saying like "Thank God our lucky stars"?

Try to read what's written,I said "they probably believe"seriously I'm not joking atheists are ten times worse than the religious for trying to ram their beliefs down other peoples throats

HondaSami

gurramok wrote: »

So its a secret not known to us but yet they publically announce Gods involvement.

It's no secret that some people believe in god is it?
why are you finding it hard to believe these people have faith in god and believe he saved them?

We all have different believes, we don't have to have an explanation for having these believes.

Calibos

Anyone remember Pat Kenny in his LLS days interviewing a climber who survived a huge fall in the Andes. He was on promoting a book he wrote on his experiences. Kenny asked him what helped him survive and not give up. I was pleasently surprised by his reply. His lack of faith in God kept him going. He knew this was the only life he was going to get and he was damned if it was ending so soon and he knew he would never see his kids again in an afterlife so he damned well better keep fighting so that he could see them again.

Anyone

gurramok wrote: »

Can anyone explain the divine intervention, any ideas??

A priest, a nun, someone religious, push came to shove you could ask in the christianity forum. Assuming thats why you actually wanted to know, and this isnt just another post having a go at people for having beliefs different to yours.

Tom_Cruise

Did they not have prior warning of the fire? Did they not know there was a fire in the vicinity that could be heading towards them?

Difference Engine

nice_very wrote: »

the angelus, schools being STILL run by religions, even our own language (hello = god be with you), opinions of its leaders in the media/politics, its in the constitution....

None of that is that oppressive, most people don't pay any notice to that. On the school issue, all schools should be non religious and there's no way religion should be a subject. But the reality is the Catholic Church has f all influence on children in the schools it runs. Parents and tv/music are far more likely to influence them.

gurramok

HondaSami wrote: »

It's no secret that some people believe in god is it?
why are you finding it hard to believe these people have faith in god and believe he saved them?

We all have different believes, we don't have to have an explanation for having these believes.

They can have any faith they desire no matter how strong it is, its the explanation of how that faith saved them which i'm asking.

Are you saying there was no physical intervention then, it was some inner will\grace ?

If indeed as said publicly by the survivors that there was some God intervention whether inner or physical which saved them, you say there is no need to ask as an answer won't be forthcoming. that fair to say?

Fuh Q

hairyprincess wrote: »

Another God bashing thread! Well there's a surprise

You cant bash something that does not exist !!

BrokenArrows

gurramok wrote: »

http://www.thejournal.ie/australia-family-shelters-wildfires-water-747493-Jan2013/
In the midst of a huge wildfire, this family survived by jumping into the water under a jetty..


Seriously, i'm at a loss how someone can say such a thing without any explanation as to how God helped.
So how did God help, did he/she/it appear, hold back the fire and rescue them? Can anyone explain the divine intervention, any ideas??

Obviously God created the water and inspired somebody to build a jetty. Lol.

HondaSami

gurramok wrote: »

They can have any faith they desire no matter how strong it is, its the explanation of how that faith saved them which i'm asking.

Are you saying there was no physical intervention then, it was some inner will\grace ?

If indeed as said publicly by the survivors that there was some God intervention whether inner or physical which saved them, you say there is no need to ask as an answer won't be forthcoming. that fair to say?

I don't have the answer, I don't think anyone has the answer. I'm not saying what it was, makes no difference what i think it's what they believe that matters to them.

What is 'faith' ?

Difference Engine

gurramok wrote: »

They can have any faith they desire no matter how strong it is, its the explanation of how that faith saved them which i'm asking.

Are you saying there was no physical intervention then, it was some inner will\grace ?

If indeed as said publicly by the survivors that there was some God intervention whether inner or physical which saved them, you say there is no need to ask as an answer won't be forthcoming. that fair to say?

You'll just get an answer saying it was Gods will or he was watching over us. I don't think any answer that involves divine intervention is going to involve demonstrable prove of it anyway.

I know people who would say similiar things about God and it would never cross their mind to say why god did it this way or how he might have influenced. It's just a given with them. They would find it very strange entirely if you asked for specifics.

My name is URL

Do you get so worked up about this every time a celebrity thanks God at awards ceremonies? Or when it's said in a movie?

I say things like 'thank God' all the time and I've never believed in any god. It just seems like you're just fishing for an argument about religion tbh.

If any question needs to be asked it's why the feck did the couple endanger their grandchilds lives by ignoring warnings to leave the home.

gurramok

HondaSami wrote: »

I don't have the answer, I don't think anyone has the answer. I'm not saying what it was, makes no difference what i think it's what they believe that matters to them.

What is 'faith' ?

Fair enough, we'll never know then (faith as in their belief in their God)

Bruthal

Fuh Q wrote: »

You cant bash something that does not exist !!

He would probably be fairly handy in a scrap anyway.

kneemos

I don't understand why you come on here and be critical of other peoples beliefs,what's your motivation op?

HondaSami

gurramok wrote: »

Fair enough, we'll never know then (faith as in their belief in their God)

What is there to know? they believe god saved them, maybe he did.
Their god? I was brought up to believe there is only one god, im sticking with that.

snubbleste

He blesses America every hour of every day.
Yet he never seems to bless Ireland. Hmm.

Todd Gack

It couldn't have been God, he was busy in Africa giving AIDS to babies

Micky Dolenz

Some people believe in God others don't.
Please keep it to yourself which of those you are, it's boring.

Feel free to talk about it in the God, Godless Forums.