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Sets.

  • 09-01-2013 05:08PM
    #1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,339 ✭✭✭


    How would you write the following in property format ?

    {1,1/2,1/4,1/6,1/8,1/10.....}

    This isnt homework btw, its revision but I'm confused by it. I think its a/b such that a is 1 and b is something. But what ? Cant be multiples of 2 if it thats with 1.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,339 ✭✭✭Artful_Badger


    To clarify what I mean, I'm looking for the set of {[latex]1, \frac{1}{2}, \frac{1}{4}, \frac{1}{6}, \frac{1}{8}, \frac{1}{10},....[/latex]} expressed in its property format.

    {1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8........} would be {x:x is a natural number} but I'm not sure how to phrase the first one as it cant just be multiples of 2 if the set contains 1.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,671 ✭✭✭TheBody


    To clarify what I mean, I'm looking for the set of {[latex]1, \frac{1}{2}, \frac{1}{4}, \frac{1}{8}, \frac{1}{10},....[/latex]} expressed in its property format.

    {1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8........} would be {x:x is a natural number} but I'm not sure how to phrase the first one as it cant just be multiples of 2 if the set contains 1.

    Oh now I see. I deleted my post as I had that stupid error you pointed out. That's what you get for not paying enough attention to what you are doing! I'm having a brain freeze. That 1 is a pain and I gotta so. I'll have a think about it and get back to ya if nobody gets there before me.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,339 ✭✭✭Artful_Badger


    Another post appeared and disappeared. It has to be multiples of 2 though right ? And the only way you can get 1 from a multiple of 2 is 2(1/2). How do you phrase 1/2n where n goes from .5, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5 ...... ?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,339 ✭✭✭Artful_Badger


    Edit: God dammit thats the third time I responded to a post that wasnt there :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,935 ✭✭✭Brussels Sprout


    I think its a/b such that a is 1 and b is something. But what ? Cant be multiples of 2 if it thats with 1.

    2 to the power of zero = 1.

    I'm not familiar with this set property terminology but adapting your other example you could come up with:

    {1/(2^(x-1)):x is a natural number}


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,339 ✭✭✭Artful_Badger


    2 to the power of zero = 1.

    I'm not familiar with this set property terminology but adapting your other example you could come up with:

    {1/(2^(x-1)):x is a natural number}

    Excellent stuff. I had the same thing but in a slightly different way. I ended up with {1/2x : x € N U {1} } could also have gone with {1/2^x : x € N U {0} }. Your way is better though, no need to be adding in stuff, just x-1 to start at 0. Very nice.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,501 ✭✭✭Delphi91


    Except that won't give ya 1/10!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,339 ✭✭✭Artful_Badger


    Delphi91 wrote: »
    Except that won't give ya 1/10!

    Sure it will. 1/2(x-1) where x is 6.

    Edit. Sorry you're right the powers one wont. And 1/2(x-1) wont give me 1 either will it ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,935 ✭✭✭Brussels Sprout


    Sorry, I only glanced at the series and read it wrong. This works:

    {(1-(1/(2*(x-1))) :x is a natural number}


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 966 ✭✭✭equivariant


    Sorry, I only glanced at the series and read it wrong. This works:

    {(1-(1/(2*(x-1))) :x is a natural number}

    That doesn't work either


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,595 ✭✭✭MathsManiac


    {1/(2x) : x € (N U {1/2}) }


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,935 ✭✭✭Brussels Sprout


    That doesn't work either

    It sure doesn't. I'm an idiot


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