TIMING BELT SNAPPED ON HYUNDAI CAR

2pack

Hi,

My friends 2007 Hyundai Getz 1.1 cdx car with only 31k miles snapped the timing belt,
Strange for this to happen on a low miles car, was serviced 8k miles ago.
Anyone know if they cause much damage when this happens...maybe might get away with new timing belt like my 2001 gttdi golf i had 2 years ago when it broke the belt and all i needed was a new belt but somehow i doubt it with this getz.....

Ta

cletus

timing belt interval seems to be 50,000 miles OR 5 years, whichever comes first

seems to be an interference belt, so more than just changing belt afaik

2pack

so probably valve damage etc

cletus

Yep

2pack

probably talking 250-300 to fix or replacement engine

dieselbug

"Strange for this to happen on a low miles car, was serviced 8k miles ago."

Not really, miles are low but six years old now.

Where are you located?

2pack

car is in Carrickmacross

aujopimur

Was the car idle or off the road for a long time at any stage?.

2pack

It was parked up for several months after breaking belt

aujopimur

2pack wrote: »

It was parked up for several months after breaking belt

I was refering to before the belt broke.

2pack

oh... no it was in everyday use

Waterson

Difficult to say with any certainty whether its more economical to repair without at least removing the cylinder head. You're almost certain to have bent a few valves with a broken belt. Provided there's no damage to cylinder walls etc, then replacing and lapping in new valves, head set and timing belt kit along with labour would be more cost effective than replacing the engine, which you'd be advised to replace the timing belt kit on anyway and would proabbly only get MAX 3 mth warranty on from a breakers. At least with a repair job, the garage/mechanic should give you a fair warranty on parts and workmanship if he's reputable in any way.

2pack

Waterson wrote: »

Difficult to say with any certainty whether its more economical to repair without at least removing the cylinder head. You're almost certain to have bent a few valves with a broken belt. Provided there's no damage to cylinder walls etc, then replacing and lapping in new valves, head set and timing belt kit along with labour would be more cost effective than replacing the engine, which you'd be advised to replace the timing belt kit on anyway and would proabbly only get MAX 3 mth warranty on from a breakers. At least with a repair job, the garage/mechanic should give you a fair warranty on parts and workmanship if he's reputable in any way.[

thanks, what cost roughly are we talking about here

Nissan doctor

2pack wrote: »

Hi,

My friends 2007 Hyundai Getz 1.1 cdx car with only 31k miles snapped the timing belt,
Strange for this to happen on a low miles car, was serviced 8k miles ago.
Anyone know if they cause much damage when this happens...maybe might get away with new timing belt like my 2001 gttdi golf i had 2 years ago when it broke the belt and all i needed was a new belt but somehow i doubt it with this getz.....

Ta

As said the interval is 50k OR 5 years so its overdue anyway, but things like running the engine low on oil or an oil or coolant leak onto the belt will shorten its life even more.

As for the Golf, you should do the lotto as the chances are better of winning that then they are of snapping a belt on a tdi without causing damage.

2pack wrote: »

probably talking 250-300 to fix or replacement engine

If the engine has valve damage then there is no chance of getting it fixed professionally for that money.

burke027

Nissan doctor wrote: »

As said the interval is 50k OR 5 years so its overdue anyway, but things like running the engine low on oil or an oil or coolant leak onto the belt will shorten its life even more.

As for the Golf, you should do the lotto as the chances are better of winning that then they are of snapping a belt on a tdi without causing damage.



If the engine has valve damage then there is no chance of getting it fixed professionally for that money.

I've done plenty of heads and belts in the past and I've never seen a vw or Audi snap a belt and not do any damage.

The costs add up when you get a good reliable mechanic to repair it.
Not some chancer that they car will be in bits in a few months

Gael23

You are at least talking about a new cylinder head and pistons anyway but these could possibly be gotten from a salvage yard.
I was in a VW garage recently and a woman was paying €2k for repairs from the same problem but not sure what kind of car.

George Dalton

ryanf1 wrote: »

You are at least talking about a new cylinder head and pistons anyway but these could possibly be gotten from a salvage yard.
I was in a VW garage recently and a woman was paying €2k for repairs from the same problem but not sure what kind of car.

Repairing an engine after a timing belt failure very rarely means replacing a whole cylinder head or pistons. Generally just replacing the bent valves does the job.

Just because a main dealer fits a new cylinder head and charges €2000 doesn't mean that is the only option

DublinDilbert

I don't think anyone has given the OP a rough estimate on the cost. As the lads above have said it will all depend on the damage when its opened up and the amount of valves that are bent. The last one that I did cost €300 on parts alone, between new timing belt, water pump (which was the cause of the problem) and getting new valves fitted / head skimmed.

So in reality at a regular mechanic you'd be looking at a ball park of around €700-€900, might be more but doubt it would be much less.

sdanseo

ryanf1 wrote: »

You are at least talking about a new cylinder head and pistons anyway but these could possibly be gotten from a salvage yard.
I was in a VW garage recently and a woman was paying €2k for repairs from the same problem but not sure what kind of car.

George Dalton wrote: »

Repairing an engine after a timing belt failure very rarely means replacing a whole cylinder head or pistons. Generally just replacing the bent valves does the job.

Just because a main dealer fits a new cylinder head and charges €2000 doesn't mean that is the only option

Main dealers are nothing but cowboys.

My 2004 Vectra -

New Clutch €650. Perfect working order two years later Opel wanted €1,400 at the time.

Bodywork repair - €454 after tax - Opel said "sure we'd normally do an insurance job, two new doors and €1,800"

Head Gasket (ended up it never needed doing, was a radiator leak as it turned out) - €650 quote from my mechanic, €1,300-€1,500 from Opel.

Daylight robbery.

Nissan doctor

ryanf1 wrote: »

You are at least talking about a new cylinder head and pistons anyway but these could possibly be gotten from a salvage yard.
I was in a VW garage recently and a woman was paying €2k for repairs from the same problem but not sure what kind of car.

Main dealers have a habit of just replacing things rather then repairing them. Its quicker and easier for them to change the whole head then to strip and repair the damaged one. The fact that its often more expensive for the customer is not something they are concerned about.

Paddypowered

burke027 wrote: »

I've done plenty of heads and belts in the past and I've never seen a vw or Audi snap a belt and not do any damage.

The costs add up when you get a good reliable mechanic to repair it.
Not some chancer that they car will be in bits in a few months

Had a Mitsubishi grandis 2.0 tdi in the garage there a few weeks back...water pump seized solid and had stripped the belt of most of its teeth...new belt kit and pump and started on first turn of the key....no damage done and no problem since!! There's always one...;)

Nissan doctor

Paddypowered wrote: »

Had a Mitsubishi grandis 2.0 tdi in the garage there a few weeks back...water pump seized solid and had stripped the belt of most of its teeth...new belt kit and pump and started on first turn of the key....no damage done and no problem since!! There's always one...;)

Or two in the case of this thread.:p

That is a VW engine too methinks...

colm_mcm

Yep, 2.0 TDI 140, they call it a DI-D though

2pack

burke027 wrote: »

I've done plenty of heads and belts in the past and I've never seen a vw or Audi snap a belt and not do any damage.

it actually sheared the timing belt right down the middle, and mechanic fitted it and away she went