honda jazz blew head gasket

bucky08 · 05-01-2013 1:31am #1

on way to work journey 24 miles and temperature light comes on the dash, and keep driving as half journey done. another few miles engine management light comes on and i still keep going and next after another two miles both lights go off and i think prob sorted after another five miles car cuts on while driving along and luckily i can pull in to layby leave car at side of road and ring taxi had to make appointment three hours later arrive back to car with water just incase it was low start filling the water when i see main pipe to radiator not connected assume this was cause of initial problem so head back on my return journey home after 10th miles temperature light comes on again so pull in and check pipe still on so no prob their and fill water to top again after another 7 miles temperature light on again so check pipe still on so check water level and fill it again so finally get car to mechanics and car won't start again he opens and sees that head gasket blown and loads of water in the pistons so my question is after this long story do you think i done the damage by driving it back or should i have paid for tow truck to bring it home and maybe saved having to buy a replacement engine car is a Honda jazz 05

dickwod1 · 05-01-2013 1:36am

bucky08 wrote: »

temperature light comes on the dash, and keep driving another few miles engine management light comes on and i still keep going and next after another two miles both lights go off and i think prob sorted after another five miles car cuts on while driving along
fill water to top again after another 7 miles temperature light on again so check pipe still on so check water level and fill it again so finally get car to mechanics and car won't start

:rolleyes: I wonder why head gasket blew?:rolleyes:

goz83 · 05-01-2013 1:43am

bucky08 wrote: »

do you think i done the damage by driving it back

Mice get the message quicker

dgt · 05-01-2013 1:44am

Please, punctuation. I can't be arsed reading that like that

bucky08 · 05-01-2013 1:46am

writing from phone message was long enough without putting in correct English

JohnBoy26 · 05-01-2013 1:47am

If you'd kept an eye on the temperture and stopped before it began to overheat you probly wouldn't of even blown a head gasket let alone wrecked the engine. So yeah you would have saved yourself a lot of hassle and money.

bucky08 · 05-01-2013 1:48am

have you never drove car with engine management light on now be honest with your answer

dickwod1 · 05-01-2013 1:48am

bucky08 wrote: »

have you never drove car with engine management light on now be honest with your answer

No.

bucky08 · 05-01-2013 1:52am

goz83 wrote: »

Mice get the message quicker

no mice here only a person asking a question is all so can you say if damage was done on the journey to xxxxx or back from xxxxx

JohnBoy26 · 05-01-2013 1:52am

bucky08 wrote: »

have you never drove car with engine management light on now be honest with your answer

You say the temperture light came on first. At that point you should of stopped or even way before that if your car has a temperture gauge. I wouldn't be waiting for no engine managment light to come on. Id have stopped alot sooner.

goz83 · 05-01-2013 1:52am

bucky08 wrote: »

have you never drove car with engine management light on now be honest with your answer

Yes. 2 cars. I was searching for a car. 2 I drove in a row had the engine management light come on. I handed the keys back on both occasions and will never return to those garages again.

goz83 · 05-01-2013 1:55am

bucky08 wrote: »

no mice here only a person asking a question is all so can you say if damage was done on the journey to xxxxx or back from xxxxx

My point is that you continued to drive, despite the temp light AND engine management light coming on AND the water levels dropping every couple of miles. I'm very surprised you made it to the mechanic tbh. So, yes, you did the damge very obviously. It may have simply been a loose hose causing a leak and the temp light to come on, but you had done all the damage on your journey to work. The trip home was the icing on the cake.

bucky08 · 05-01-2013 1:55am

dickwod1 wrote: »

No.

never find that hard to believe as i have had 10plus vehicles and on maybe 3 or 4 light had been on and off due to even small faults eg sensors you must be lucky or full of **** i know which i think it is can you guess

dgt · 05-01-2013 1:59am

bucky08 wrote: »

I was on way to work, a journey of 24 miles and temperature light comes on the dash. I kept driving as half journey was done. Another few miles pass and the engine management light comes on, however I still keep going. After another two miles both lights go off and I thought problem sorted. But after another five miles the car cuts on while driving along and luckily I was able to pull into a layby. I left the car at the side of the road and rang a taxi.

I had to make an appointment three hours later to arrive back to car with water just incase it was low. I started filling the water when I saw the main pipe to radiator disconnected; I assumed this was cause of initial problem. I headed on my return journey home but after 10 miles temperature light comes on again so I pulled in and check the pipe. It was still on so no problem there and fill water to top again. After another 7 miles the temperature light comes on again so check pipe still on so I checked the water level and fill it again.

I finally get the car to the mechanics and car won't start. He opens and sees that head gasket blown and loads of water in the pistons.

My question is after this: do you think I've done the damage by driving it back or should I have paid for tow truck to bring it home and maybe saved having to buy a replacement engine?

The car is a Honda jazz 05

I'm on a phone too

Yes, if you got it towed, the damage might'nt have been as bad

barney 20v · 05-01-2013 2:01am

Officially lost for words at your idiocy op

Alanstrainor · 05-01-2013 2:01am

bucky08 wrote: »

never find that hard to believe as i have had 10plus vehicles and on maybe 3 or 4 light had been on and off due to even small faults eg sensors you must be lucky or full of **** i know which i think it is can you guess

Warning given.

Calm down.

bucky08 · 05-01-2013 2:04am

goz83 wrote: »

My point is that you continued to drive, despite the temp light AND engine management light coming on AND the water levels dropping every couple of miles. I'm very surprised you made it to the mechanic tbh. So, yes, you did the damge very obviously. It may have simply been a loose hose causing a leak and the temp light to come on, but you had done all the damage on your journey to work. The trip home was the icing on the cake.

we have a winner a good straight answer thanks thats what i posted for.. know myself i done the damage was wondering on which journey though did the most..

JohnBoy26 · 05-01-2013 2:11am

bucky08 wrote: »

know myself i done the damage was wondering on which journey though did the most..

You answered that one yourself in your opening post.

bucky08 wrote: »

on way to work journey 24 miles and temperature light comes on the dash, and keep driving as half journey done.

coolbeans · 05-01-2013 2:18am

First off it's very bad manners writing like that and then expecting a civil answer. I am on a phone too.

Re the continuous driving, well, that was silly wasn't it? And no, I've never driven a car with the EM light on as it's usually a very bad sign. My mother has aJazz and while they're a great car they don't have a temperature gauge IIRC, just a light, which is a design flaw in my opinion.
It's a good idea to stop immediately should you suspect overheating. Otherwise OP, you know what happens.

bucky08 · 05-01-2013 2:28am

coolbeans wrote: »

First off it's very bad manners writing like that and then expecting a civil answer. I am on a phone too.

Re the continuous driving, well, that was silly wasn't it? And no, I've never driven a car with the EM light on as it's usually a very bad sign. My mother has aJazz and while they're a great car they don't have a temperature gauge IIRC, just a light, which is a design flaw in my opinion.
It's a good idea to stop immediately should you suspect overheating. Otherwise OP, you know what happens.

still believe you have drove at some stage with EM light on, think back to that day? and yes it is a design flaw had to make an appointment for baby scan so the other half would not of been happy to miss it Thats why i think i decided not to see the signs on the journey in..

coolbeans · 05-01-2013 2:33am

bucky08 wrote: »

still believe you have drove at some stage with EM light on, think back to that day?

I don't care enough about this discussion to lie to some guy I'll never meet about the point. For the second time though, no, I've never driven with the engine management light on. For some reason, call me crazy, I think that doing so is a really bad idea.

bucky08 · 05-01-2013 2:35am

coolbeans wrote: »

I don't care enough about this discussion to lie to some guy I'll never meet about the point. For the second time though, no, I've never driven with the engine management light on. For some reason, call me crazy, I think that doing so is a really bad idea.

Hi crazy.......

coolbeans · 05-01-2013 2:39am

bucky08 wrote: »

Hi crazy.......

I am not the one with the buggered engine now am I? Could be something to do with the difference in our attitudes to the appearance of a certain light...

You seem to think that driving around with serious warning lights on is normal. I think that's just nuts.

delly · 05-01-2013 2:41am

I've driven with an engine management light on, but checked that everything with oil and coolant was ok. That done I got it scanned and it related to an oxygen sensor, so knew I was ok to drive and will have to get it sorted eventually.

In relation to the temperature gauge, as soon as it went into the red zone you are at risk of damaging your engine. Any rise in temperature even before the red zone is an instant pull over and unlike a EML, you would have to be 100% of the cause and take action on it before even considering driving again.

goz83 · 05-01-2013 2:41am

Looks like a troll. Any chance of closing this now before it gets really stupid? Mod?

ba_barabus · 05-01-2013 2:52am

Not read the full thing but this is a reason I hate modern cars.

No longer is there a temp warning gauge but a small little light which people ignore.

The temp warning gauge gave some warning at least

wonski · 05-01-2013 3:01am

All cars i drove had a gauge, and some of them were modern enough.
The thing is that op knew something is wrong, and instead of stopping he kept driving. If he stopped as soon as temp light came on, he would notice the loose hose. He could fix it on the spot, add water if needed and saved his engine. Lesson learned.

ba_barabus · 05-01-2013 3:04am

wonski wrote: »

All cars i drove had a gauge, and some of them were modern enough.

A lot of new cars don't.

wonski · 05-01-2013 3:16am

Maybe, doesn't change the fact that op noticed the light and ignored it. If it was a gauge, he would probably ignored it, too.
Which car makers gave up on the gauge? Are these only smallest cars, or is it something that happens across the range?

ba_barabus · 05-01-2013 3:21am

wonski wrote: »

Are these only smallest cars

Mostly tbh. But these cars are designed for city driving where the coolant system is under pressure.

Fiat is one example but others are there.

Most offer a light or some sort of easily ignored electronic illumination which a lot of people ignore.

Thing is it's easy to tell people to pay attention to gauges but most will think a light is a fault or not important.

wonski · 05-01-2013 3:34am

If we are coming into Fiat territory, 2007 Bravo i drove not only had a gauge, but also very easy to notice message saying "stop the car now and turn off the engine" (or something like this), granted in smaller/cheaper cars the display may be smaller, and gauge not present as i learned just now, but i bet the message/light has to be visible enough. If someone didn't notice light/message/engine warning, i don't thing he would be able to figure out what the little gauge on the middle of the dash means.
Wouldn't be surprised if one or two drivers thought it was fuel gauge:D

ba_barabus · 05-01-2013 3:40am

wonski wrote: »

Wouldn't be surprised if one or two drivers thought it was fuel gauge:D

Funnily enough years ago a neighbour asked me why she couldn't get the petrol light to go out in her bluebird. Turns out it needed oil...........and at that stage a new engine.

I see your point but I find it very reassuring to have a temp gauge for those of us who actually care about their car.

If I could have a gauge for oil and voltage I'd be even happier. I think I need an old car again

wonski · 05-01-2013 4:00am

ba_barabus wrote: »

I see your point but I find it very reassuring to have a temp gauge for those of us who actually care about their car.

Hey, i see your point, too. So does everyone who actually cares about their car, as you said.
The problem is that some people don't, and whether you give them gauge, light or beeping sound, - it doesn't matter. The same happens when low oil pressure light shows up on the dash - most drivers assume it is a "little low on oil" - the more concerned will buy a can of anything at petrol station and top it up, while some will do nothing until next service/nct. Very few will notice it is not level, but pressure.
That is why i actually like the idea of written messages on the dash rather than gauges/lights. The same applies to blown bulbs warning.

kona · 05-01-2013 4:11am

bucky08 wrote: »

have you never drove car with engine management light on now be honest with your answer

Pmsl

wonski · 05-01-2013 4:25am

Are you honest with your answer, kona?

nutts_77 · 05-01-2013 7:22am

Bucky = troll !! That dude ain't had an appointment since 2008, when he last had a job....

spiggotpaddy · 05-01-2013 9:54am

I know of a few people who have driven home or to work with low oil warning or high temp gauge.
I get the impression that people who have no interest in motors regard warning lights as kind of,
"when it's convenient for you " warning.
Where as an enthusiast see's an oil light as a 'for Christ sake put some in' message, and hopes the temp sensor switch never illuminates the 'red light of death".

honda jazz blew head gasket

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